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Talk about bringing back old times with the Ryzen 5700X3D!

Talk about bringing back old times with the Ryzen 5700X3D!

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jamesydog
Member
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05-11-2023, 04:43 AM
#1
When I set up my son's gaming rig in 2020, I had no idea AM4 technology would be retired now. It’s similar to what happens with phones.
CPU: Ryzen 7 5700X
CPU cooler: Noctua NH-D12L low profile (8 case fans blowing front to back and out)
Motherboard: MSI B450 Pro M2
Ram: Corsair 3200MHz 32GB (16x2)
SSD/HDD: 932 GB SSD CT1000MX SSD1, 3.64TB HDD ST4000D, 1.82TB HDD WDC WD20EZRZ
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 (8 GB)
PSU: Corsair 550W (the 2020 model needs an upgrade, at least 650W)
Chassis: Aero Cool mini tower
OS: Windows 10 22H2
Monitor: HP Omen
Gameplay mainly happens on Call of Duty. There’s some Elder Scrolls and Assetto Car Sim, but we have to lower COD settings to achieve around 166 FPS, which isn’t impressive by itself. Around 105 FPS on basic settings and 77 in ultra.
I’m hesitant about switching to AM5 since I don’t see a problem, but instead of purchasing a $1000 GPU, I found a 5700X for $260. They should be closer to $180 now.
For comparison, my current setup has a 5700X with 8 cores and 16 threads, max boost up to 4.6GHz, 3.4GHz base, and 3.4GHz ultra. I have a B450 M.2 board, but does the L3 cache compensate for the lower frequency?
Is this upgrade worthwhile on this system? My goal is just to extend my gaming experience by another three years.
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jamesydog
05-11-2023, 04:43 AM #1

When I set up my son's gaming rig in 2020, I had no idea AM4 technology would be retired now. It’s similar to what happens with phones.
CPU: Ryzen 7 5700X
CPU cooler: Noctua NH-D12L low profile (8 case fans blowing front to back and out)
Motherboard: MSI B450 Pro M2
Ram: Corsair 3200MHz 32GB (16x2)
SSD/HDD: 932 GB SSD CT1000MX SSD1, 3.64TB HDD ST4000D, 1.82TB HDD WDC WD20EZRZ
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 (8 GB)
PSU: Corsair 550W (the 2020 model needs an upgrade, at least 650W)
Chassis: Aero Cool mini tower
OS: Windows 10 22H2
Monitor: HP Omen
Gameplay mainly happens on Call of Duty. There’s some Elder Scrolls and Assetto Car Sim, but we have to lower COD settings to achieve around 166 FPS, which isn’t impressive by itself. Around 105 FPS on basic settings and 77 in ultra.
I’m hesitant about switching to AM5 since I don’t see a problem, but instead of purchasing a $1000 GPU, I found a 5700X for $260. They should be closer to $180 now.
For comparison, my current setup has a 5700X with 8 cores and 16 threads, max boost up to 4.6GHz, 3.4GHz base, and 3.4GHz ultra. I have a B450 M.2 board, but does the L3 cache compensate for the lower frequency?
Is this upgrade worthwhile on this system? My goal is just to extend my gaming experience by another three years.

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Ailinie
Member
160
05-11-2023, 11:55 AM
#2
I upgraded to a 5700x 8core 16 thread with a 4.6GHz maximum boost, a 3.4GHz base speed, and an RTX 4060 GPU (originally from a Ryzen 5 model and Fatboy GPU). The setup includes a Noctua NH D12L tower. There are three fans drawing air in from the front, two fans reducing airflow at the bottom of the case, two more blowing air out through the back cooler, and an additional fan directing air upwards via the top vent.

Here’s a clearer breakdown of the build:
CPU: 5700x
CPU cooler: Noctua NH D12L
Motherboard: [to be filled]
CPU cooler age: [to be filled]
RAM: [to be filled]
SSD/HDD: [to be filled]
GPU: RTX 4060
PSU: [to be filled]
Chassis: [to be filled]
OS: [to be filled]
Monitor: [to be filled]

I also included the BIOS version for your motherboard and mentioned that adding photos of the components would help provide more details.

Besides Call of Duty, I play other games at various resolutions. In my opinion, if you plan to install a Ryzen 5000 series X3D processor, you should consider a higher-end board since they consume more power than the older 3000 series chips. Without a suitable VRM heatsink, it could cause your motherboard to fail sooner.

I found a 5700x3d for $260.
For reference:
- Ryzen 7 7700X: [link]
- AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 45GHz 8-core: [link]

I’d limit gaming details and delay any purchase until AM6 is available, saving up until then.
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Ailinie
05-11-2023, 11:55 AM #2

I upgraded to a 5700x 8core 16 thread with a 4.6GHz maximum boost, a 3.4GHz base speed, and an RTX 4060 GPU (originally from a Ryzen 5 model and Fatboy GPU). The setup includes a Noctua NH D12L tower. There are three fans drawing air in from the front, two fans reducing airflow at the bottom of the case, two more blowing air out through the back cooler, and an additional fan directing air upwards via the top vent.

Here’s a clearer breakdown of the build:
CPU: 5700x
CPU cooler: Noctua NH D12L
Motherboard: [to be filled]
CPU cooler age: [to be filled]
RAM: [to be filled]
SSD/HDD: [to be filled]
GPU: RTX 4060
PSU: [to be filled]
Chassis: [to be filled]
OS: [to be filled]
Monitor: [to be filled]

I also included the BIOS version for your motherboard and mentioned that adding photos of the components would help provide more details.

Besides Call of Duty, I play other games at various resolutions. In my opinion, if you plan to install a Ryzen 5000 series X3D processor, you should consider a higher-end board since they consume more power than the older 3000 series chips. Without a suitable VRM heatsink, it could cause your motherboard to fail sooner.

I found a 5700x3d for $260.
For reference:
- Ryzen 7 7700X: [link]
- AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 45GHz 8-core: [link]

I’d limit gaming details and delay any purchase until AM6 is available, saving up until then.

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peterphph
Member
175
05-12-2023, 02:06 AM
#3
If this is strictly a gaming build you might consider upgrading the power supply and gpu, then you can always carry over those components into a new build.
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peterphph
05-12-2023, 02:06 AM #3

If this is strictly a gaming build you might consider upgrading the power supply and gpu, then you can always carry over those components into a new build.

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shipflewup
Member
151
05-12-2023, 03:56 AM
#4
So the 5700X on the B450 board is okay enough, right? 65W versus 105W on the X3d. Considering that would give better performance or make sense to upgrade the MB to a B550 at least—with better heatsinks and 4.0PCIe. Then I’d end up spending around 450$ plus a newer PSU, which I definitely need. Man, I never imagined it would turn out this way.
We’ll just go with it for now on lower settings.
@ohio_buckeye
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shipflewup
05-12-2023, 03:56 AM #4

So the 5700X on the B450 board is okay enough, right? 65W versus 105W on the X3d. Considering that would give better performance or make sense to upgrade the MB to a B550 at least—with better heatsinks and 4.0PCIe. Then I’d end up spending around 450$ plus a newer PSU, which I definitely need. Man, I never imagined it would turn out this way.
We’ll just go with it for now on lower settings.
@ohio_buckeye

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Imperfcti0n
Member
136
05-15-2023, 03:19 AM
#5
$450 would also cover a 9060xt 16gb while keeping space for the PSU. Consider waiting until you start a new build. You might be able to sell the old GPU to recover some expenses. Check out this link. At 1440p it seems to work well.
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Imperfcti0n
05-15-2023, 03:19 AM #5

$450 would also cover a 9060xt 16gb while keeping space for the PSU. Consider waiting until you start a new build. You might be able to sell the old GPU to recover some expenses. Check out this link. At 1440p it seems to work well.

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alexagas
Member
210
05-15-2023, 03:39 AM
#6
On a b450 platform with an x8 GPU, you might experience some performance limitations on PCIe3 x8. The difference from a 4060 is unclear to me.
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alexagas
05-15-2023, 03:39 AM #6

On a b450 platform with an x8 GPU, you might experience some performance limitations on PCIe3 x8. The difference from a 4060 is unclear to me.

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DRAGON91160
Member
108
05-15-2023, 08:43 AM
#7
I would recommend upgrading the GPU and PSU here. The CPU is still fine. We should agree on a 9600xt model too.
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DRAGON91160
05-15-2023, 08:43 AM #7

I would recommend upgrading the GPU and PSU here. The CPU is still fine. We should agree on a 9600xt model too.

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Arliwen
Junior Member
17
05-16-2023, 10:31 PM
#8
Adjusting settings reduces strain on the graphics card. The improvement in FPS when lowering settings suggests the card is the main bottleneck, not the CPU. If gaming matters most, consider replacing the graphics card first. A stronger PSU is also necessary for this upgrade. Seek high-quality components with robust warranties—preferably lasting at least seven years, or better ten or twelve. The positive outcome is that both upgraded parts can be moved to a later stage when you eventually replace the CPU. New processors are regularly released, often offering about a 15% boost in performance for the same cost. Therefore, purchasing a new motherboard might be more advantageous if you intend to upgrade the CPU later.
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Arliwen
05-16-2023, 10:31 PM #8

Adjusting settings reduces strain on the graphics card. The improvement in FPS when lowering settings suggests the card is the main bottleneck, not the CPU. If gaming matters most, consider replacing the graphics card first. A stronger PSU is also necessary for this upgrade. Seek high-quality components with robust warranties—preferably lasting at least seven years, or better ten or twelve. The positive outcome is that both upgraded parts can be moved to a later stage when you eventually replace the CPU. New processors are regularly released, often offering about a 15% boost in performance for the same cost. Therefore, purchasing a new motherboard might be more advantageous if you intend to upgrade the CPU later.

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alllymiller10
Junior Member
14
05-17-2023, 03:49 AM
#9
Thank you all. Excellent details!
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alllymiller10
05-17-2023, 03:49 AM #9

Thank you all. Excellent details!

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FELIPE369
Member
234
05-23-2023, 08:13 PM
#10
Eh, there seems to be a misunderstanding. I have a 5600x with a moderate OC to 4.65ghz all core and 1-2 cores at 4.85ghz. Usually I get around 100-120fps/high settings on 1440p without DLSS. With DLSS, it caps my monitor at 170hz/fps. Are you certain RT effects are off? Are you using DLSS? Is your CPU performing as expected? I believe you should be seeing better FPS.
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FELIPE369
05-23-2023, 08:13 PM #10

Eh, there seems to be a misunderstanding. I have a 5600x with a moderate OC to 4.65ghz all core and 1-2 cores at 4.85ghz. Usually I get around 100-120fps/high settings on 1440p without DLSS. With DLSS, it caps my monitor at 170hz/fps. Are you certain RT effects are off? Are you using DLSS? Is your CPU performing as expected? I believe you should be seeing better FPS.

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