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Microsoft causes more issues: Windows 11 won't work on devices with older Intel or Ryzen processors.

Microsoft causes more issues: Windows 11 won't work on devices with older Intel or Ryzen processors.

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InsygniaS
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04-20-2022, 08:28 PM
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Yesterday Microsoft removed the soft floors from their support notes and stated that TPM 2.0 is now mandatory instead of 1.2. They also took out the mention of "CPU Generation" from the soft floors section. This change was seen as clarifying that while 8th generation or Ryzen 2000 chips would be needed for a recommended setup, older processors like 6th or 7th generation could still run Windows 11. A Microsoft VP explained that the soft floor requirement has been completely dropped; only 8th generation or newer chips will be supported at launch. Running 7th generation or lower is no longer possible because certain chipset features are missing in those models. The soft floor was originally intended for insider testing during Windows 11 development, but users would have to revert to Windows 10 later. Even if you manage to bypass the TPM 2.0 and 8th Gen/Ryzen 2000 demands now, the final release will not allow it. My take: If you’re using a 7th generation or older device or purchased a Surface Studio before the $3,499 price drop, you’re in trouble.
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InsygniaS
04-20-2022, 08:28 PM #1

Yesterday Microsoft removed the soft floors from their support notes and stated that TPM 2.0 is now mandatory instead of 1.2. They also took out the mention of "CPU Generation" from the soft floors section. This change was seen as clarifying that while 8th generation or Ryzen 2000 chips would be needed for a recommended setup, older processors like 6th or 7th generation could still run Windows 11. A Microsoft VP explained that the soft floor requirement has been completely dropped; only 8th generation or newer chips will be supported at launch. Running 7th generation or lower is no longer possible because certain chipset features are missing in those models. The soft floor was originally intended for insider testing during Windows 11 development, but users would have to revert to Windows 10 later. Even if you manage to bypass the TPM 2.0 and 8th Gen/Ryzen 2000 demands now, the final release will not allow it. My take: If you’re using a 7th generation or older device or purchased a Surface Studio before the $3,499 price drop, you’re in trouble.

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Rounyx
Posting Freak
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04-20-2022, 08:28 PM
#2
Well then, it looks like most people probably don't use Windows 11, which is a pretty big oversight.
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Rounyx
04-20-2022, 08:28 PM #2

Well then, it looks like most people probably don't use Windows 11, which is a pretty big oversight.

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Vinceb11
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04-20-2022, 08:28 PM
#3
Yes, the Athlon 3000G handles Windows better than the Ryzen 7 1700X. Reference: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows...processors
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Vinceb11
04-20-2022, 08:28 PM #3

Yes, the Athlon 3000G handles Windows better than the Ryzen 7 1700X. Reference: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows...processors

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AboooDy919
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04-20-2022, 08:28 PM
#4
Expected updates will likely grow. Windows 11 remains unavailable for general use.
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AboooDy919
04-20-2022, 08:28 PM #4

Expected updates will likely grow. Windows 11 remains unavailable for general use.

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tiamoo92
Member
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04-20-2022, 08:28 PM
#5
This situation is quite significant, especially given his role as Vice President. It seems he’s pointing out that the upcoming CPUs are being added to the list rather than older models. He clarified that hardware requirements didn’t exist in the 7th generation and before. He also noted Microsoft didn’t mention this during the presentation. It looks like there might be a clever twist here—remembering the "Intel Bridge" that let Android run on Windows? Probably, the missing piece is some virtualization or emulation acceleration built into the chipsets. Microsoft likely received the Intel Bridge in exchange for Android support, and Intel made it easier for everyone to upgrade. What are your thoughts?
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tiamoo92
04-20-2022, 08:28 PM #5

This situation is quite significant, especially given his role as Vice President. It seems he’s pointing out that the upcoming CPUs are being added to the list rather than older models. He clarified that hardware requirements didn’t exist in the 7th generation and before. He also noted Microsoft didn’t mention this during the presentation. It looks like there might be a clever twist here—remembering the "Intel Bridge" that let Android run on Windows? Probably, the missing piece is some virtualization or emulation acceleration built into the chipsets. Microsoft likely received the Intel Bridge in exchange for Android support, and Intel made it easier for everyone to upgrade. What are your thoughts?

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neofi12345
Junior Member
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04-20-2022, 08:28 PM
#6
It's understandable considering the recent changes they've made; it wouldn't be surprising if things shifted again. I'm skeptical about any hidden agenda pushing users toward upgrades, as my critical perspective would suggest otherwise. My explanation points to hardware protections against exploits such as Spectre and Meltdown, which are now built into newer processors. Since Microsoft has emphasized stronger security in 11, this makes sense. Of course, it would be ideal if Microsoft communicated this more clearly, but issues like Mercedes and Austrian grid penalties remind us that sometimes things feel more about tradition than transparency.
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neofi12345
04-20-2022, 08:28 PM #6

It's understandable considering the recent changes they've made; it wouldn't be surprising if things shifted again. I'm skeptical about any hidden agenda pushing users toward upgrades, as my critical perspective would suggest otherwise. My explanation points to hardware protections against exploits such as Spectre and Meltdown, which are now built into newer processors. Since Microsoft has emphasized stronger security in 11, this makes sense. Of course, it would be ideal if Microsoft communicated this more clearly, but issues like Mercedes and Austrian grid penalties remind us that sometimes things feel more about tradition than transparency.

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techiseasy
Senior Member
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04-20-2022, 08:28 PM
#7
It mainly improved efficiency through a die shrink from 14nm to 12nm, with little change in CPU architecture or performance metrics. The design remains essentially unchanged, so no major adjustments were made that would warrant ending support.
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techiseasy
04-20-2022, 08:28 PM #7

It mainly improved efficiency through a die shrink from 14nm to 12nm, with little change in CPU architecture or performance metrics. The design remains essentially unchanged, so no major adjustments were made that would warrant ending support.

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RonniMolo4ko_
Member
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04-20-2022, 08:28 PM
#8
It seems the tweet was probably just a test of Windows 11. The list likely contains results from that trial.
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RonniMolo4ko_
04-20-2022, 08:28 PM #8

It seems the tweet was probably just a test of Windows 11. The list likely contains results from that trial.

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slayer__is
Senior Member
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04-20-2022, 08:28 PM
#9
Yeah, we’ve checked the CPU list we shared, but we’re still evaluating additional processors.
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slayer__is
04-20-2022, 08:28 PM #9

Yeah, we’ve checked the CPU list we shared, but we’re still evaluating additional processors.

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Goldensoul133
Member
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04-20-2022, 08:28 PM
#10
Windows 10 remains compatible until 2025. If you purchased a Kaby Lake model in 2017, it would be around eight years old when support ends. You’ll have updated before then. There’s no pressure to upgrade, making these concerns unfounded.
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Goldensoul133
04-20-2022, 08:28 PM #10

Windows 10 remains compatible until 2025. If you purchased a Kaby Lake model in 2017, it would be around eight years old when support ends. You’ll have updated before then. There’s no pressure to upgrade, making these concerns unfounded.

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