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Yes, MicroTik APs support roaming with CAPMAN.

Yes, MicroTik APs support roaming with CAPMAN.

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Soccerdude2006
Junior Member
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04-09-2024, 09:49 PM
#11
The price difference between an UDM-Pro and a standard MikroTik router exceeds $200. It would be simpler to operate the APs independently using a MikroTik router instead of relying on the UDM-Pro and Cloud Key. Your observation about UniFi's roaming performance is worth considering.
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Soccerdude2006
04-09-2024, 09:49 PM #11

The price difference between an UDM-Pro and a standard MikroTik router exceeds $200. It would be simpler to operate the APs independently using a MikroTik router instead of relying on the UDM-Pro and Cloud Key. Your observation about UniFi's roaming performance is worth considering.

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CandyXelo
Junior Member
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04-28-2024, 04:47 AM
#12
When purchasing a UDM-Pro, using a Cloud Key isn't possible because the device handles its own controller software internally. The Cloud Key becomes irrelevant unless you need to separate your APs from your gateway—this is just a humorous point. In practice, the Cloud Key works best with routers like Mikrotik, especially if you want continuous operation. It’s not essential for devices that stay on all the time and have enough resources. For NAS setups, the Cloud Key serves as a dedicated controller unit. Mikrotik and Unifi are similar in normal use, but Unifi supports Fast Roaming while Mikrotik does not. This can cause brief interruptions during calls if you switch APs, mainly due to technical limitations of Mikrotik. The difference is mostly about features unavailable on Mikrotik at the moment. I fully endorse using Mikrotik with Unifi APs. Their routing setup closely mirrors a Linux server role, which can be tricky for some users. If you only needed a single AP, Mikrotik is ideal and self-contained. I should clarify now that the reference was likely about Mikrotik paired with a Cloud Key, not the UDM-Pro specifically.
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CandyXelo
04-28-2024, 04:47 AM #12

When purchasing a UDM-Pro, using a Cloud Key isn't possible because the device handles its own controller software internally. The Cloud Key becomes irrelevant unless you need to separate your APs from your gateway—this is just a humorous point. In practice, the Cloud Key works best with routers like Mikrotik, especially if you want continuous operation. It’s not essential for devices that stay on all the time and have enough resources. For NAS setups, the Cloud Key serves as a dedicated controller unit. Mikrotik and Unifi are similar in normal use, but Unifi supports Fast Roaming while Mikrotik does not. This can cause brief interruptions during calls if you switch APs, mainly due to technical limitations of Mikrotik. The difference is mostly about features unavailable on Mikrotik at the moment. I fully endorse using Mikrotik with Unifi APs. Their routing setup closely mirrors a Linux server role, which can be tricky for some users. If you only needed a single AP, Mikrotik is ideal and self-contained. I should clarify now that the reference was likely about Mikrotik paired with a Cloud Key, not the UDM-Pro specifically.

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master_scope
Posting Freak
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04-28-2024, 06:11 AM
#13
Based on what we discussed, it seems the controller doesn’t have to stay active for a smooth roaming experience with UniFi APs. Yes, that’s correct—MikroTik and Cloud Key are all set.
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master_scope
04-28-2024, 06:11 AM #13

Based on what we discussed, it seems the controller doesn’t have to stay active for a smooth roaming experience with UniFi APs. Yes, that’s correct—MikroTik and Cloud Key are all set.

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Hunter1202005
Member
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05-01-2024, 12:50 PM
#14
It depends on whether Fast Roaming is active or not. When it's off, the controller doesn't affect the roaming experience at all. Enabling it changes things slightly, as APs handle some coordination automatically—though certain tasks might only occur once daily. Once enabled, you can set up the controller on a computer and later move it to a cloud key. Just restore your backup and update the APs accordingly. Whichever location you use, always back up your data before making changes.
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Hunter1202005
05-01-2024, 12:50 PM #14

It depends on whether Fast Roaming is active or not. When it's off, the controller doesn't affect the roaming experience at all. Enabling it changes things slightly, as APs handle some coordination automatically—though certain tasks might only occur once daily. Once enabled, you can set up the controller on a computer and later move it to a cloud key. Just restore your backup and update the APs accordingly. Whichever location you use, always back up your data before making changes.

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Leumas_R
Member
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05-01-2024, 05:12 PM
#15
Their signal quality is essentially the same.
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Leumas_R
05-01-2024, 05:12 PM #15

Their signal quality is essentially the same.

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Rhuji
Senior Member
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05-01-2024, 06:38 PM
#16
I don't have direct experience with the cAP AC, but from the data sheets I can gather, the UAP-AC-Lite offers slightly better gain at both frequencies compared to the standard model. This results in a stronger signal along the direction of the ceiling when mounted and a weaker signal vertically. The shape appears more flattened and wider. Maximum transmit power is nearly identical for both models. At 2.4GHz, the cAP AC tends to be slightly more powerful, while at 5GHz it's a bit stronger for the UAP-AC-Lite. Overall, the differences are minor and hard to distinguish.
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Rhuji
05-01-2024, 06:38 PM #16

I don't have direct experience with the cAP AC, but from the data sheets I can gather, the UAP-AC-Lite offers slightly better gain at both frequencies compared to the standard model. This results in a stronger signal along the direction of the ceiling when mounted and a weaker signal vertically. The shape appears more flattened and wider. Maximum transmit power is nearly identical for both models. At 2.4GHz, the cAP AC tends to be slightly more powerful, while at 5GHz it's a bit stronger for the UAP-AC-Lite. Overall, the differences are minor and hard to distinguish.

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imTri
Posting Freak
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05-04-2024, 12:50 AM
#17
Cloud key appears to be $180, so I’ll run the controller on my old PC, which acts as a temporary server. Do you know if the UniFi controller can be easily moved to another device when needed? I probably plan to transfer it to a home lab server I intend to buy in about six months.
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imTri
05-04-2024, 12:50 AM #17

Cloud key appears to be $180, so I’ll run the controller on my old PC, which acts as a temporary server. Do you know if the UniFi controller can be easily moved to another device when needed? I probably plan to transfer it to a home lab server I intend to buy in about six months.

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Copperino
Junior Member
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05-21-2024, 03:28 AM
#18
It seems you're referring to an update made earlier. The statement about "to a cloud key" is relevant for any device you plan to use with the controller.
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Copperino
05-21-2024, 03:28 AM #18

It seems you're referring to an update made earlier. The statement about "to a cloud key" is relevant for any device you plan to use with the controller.

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mineuout482
Posting Freak
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05-24-2024, 02:41 PM
#19
Reviewed the compatibility and found UAP-AC-LITE doesn’t handle fast roaming well. It looks like a concern since I experience call drops while moving around using WiFi calling. Would call drops be normal with this type of device? I’m trying to stay under $700 for nanoHD gear.
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mineuout482
05-24-2024, 02:41 PM #19

Reviewed the compatibility and found UAP-AC-LITE doesn’t handle fast roaming well. It looks like a concern since I experience call drops while moving around using WiFi calling. Would call drops be normal with this type of device? I’m trying to stay under $700 for nanoHD gear.

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Aerithix
Member
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05-24-2024, 11:02 PM
#20
You're observing that the UAP-AC-Lite doesn't have fast roaming capabilities. This isn't a limitation—it's a known feature of the system. The fast roaming function is present in all current Unifi APs.
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Aerithix
05-24-2024, 11:02 PM #20

You're observing that the UAP-AC-Lite doesn't have fast roaming capabilities. This isn't a limitation—it's a known feature of the system. The fast roaming function is present in all current Unifi APs.

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