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XMP on my B450 board... I just observed something.

XMP on my B450 board... I just observed something.

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GamerVini
Junior Member
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12-25-2018, 12:55 PM
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My PC struggled with XMP settings, so I had to adjust the TRFC timing significantly. Recently, I realized the TRFC value I set was part of the memory profile but only activated the main timings. This isn’t unusual—SPD documentation notes that for XMP version 1, TRFC should be 525, yet enabling XMP keeps it at auto (around 325). Frustrating.
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GamerVini
12-25-2018, 12:55 PM #1

My PC struggled with XMP settings, so I had to adjust the TRFC timing significantly. Recently, I realized the TRFC value I set was part of the memory profile but only activated the main timings. This isn’t unusual—SPD documentation notes that for XMP version 1, TRFC should be 525, yet enabling XMP keeps it at auto (around 325). Frustrating.

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DanielEmpire
Posting Freak
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12-25-2018, 06:27 PM
#2
This discovery often prompts me to check memory stats, capture screenshots of the SPD in BIOS, and take CPU-Z shots when assisting others. It’s crucial to examine these details carefully. You pick up fast, little one. My current board (an Intel one) operates at 4000mhz; with TRFC on auto it reaches 700. It runs smoothly but feels quite unstable. Motherboards can be tricky indeed. Adjusting RAM is a slow process. Most folks just want to plug and play. That’s why I’ve focused on offering guidance. I’d draft a simple tutorial, but every DDR4 system (AMD) looks different depending on the manufacturer and model of memory, along with various boards, LEDs, and chips. All these factors make tuning RAM systems quite complex today.
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DanielEmpire
12-25-2018, 06:27 PM #2

This discovery often prompts me to check memory stats, capture screenshots of the SPD in BIOS, and take CPU-Z shots when assisting others. It’s crucial to examine these details carefully. You pick up fast, little one. My current board (an Intel one) operates at 4000mhz; with TRFC on auto it reaches 700. It runs smoothly but feels quite unstable. Motherboards can be tricky indeed. Adjusting RAM is a slow process. Most folks just want to plug and play. That’s why I’ve focused on offering guidance. I’d draft a simple tutorial, but every DDR4 system (AMD) looks different depending on the manufacturer and model of memory, along with various boards, LEDs, and chips. All these factors make tuning RAM systems quite complex today.

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chrisoulis777
Junior Member
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01-01-2019, 01:19 AM
#3
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chrisoulis777
01-01-2019, 01:19 AM #3

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rpb2003
Junior Member
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01-01-2019, 02:45 AM
#4
AMD generally prefers more relaxed sub timings. Most boards manage standard memory well in auto mode, though some Xmp Docp profiles still cause problems for various reasons. I've managed to run unusual CAS latency settings on my Zen+ successfully. However, it tends to become unstable faster than the Cas 16 vs 15 versions. Luckily, I have a few solid memory kits, and they perform reliably with minimal issues. Voltage stability also helps memory scale nicely. So overall, performance depends a lot on the build if you push beyond XMP limits. For instance, my 3600 sticks run at 4000 under stock Xmp timings, but not on my AMD system.
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rpb2003
01-01-2019, 02:45 AM #4

AMD generally prefers more relaxed sub timings. Most boards manage standard memory well in auto mode, though some Xmp Docp profiles still cause problems for various reasons. I've managed to run unusual CAS latency settings on my Zen+ successfully. However, it tends to become unstable faster than the Cas 16 vs 15 versions. Luckily, I have a few solid memory kits, and they perform reliably with minimal issues. Voltage stability also helps memory scale nicely. So overall, performance depends a lot on the build if you push beyond XMP limits. For instance, my 3600 sticks run at 4000 under stock Xmp timings, but not on my AMD system.

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_WMG_
Junior Member
44
01-02-2019, 10:50 PM
#5
I attempted memory overclocking a few months back... I wasn’t sure what each setting meant. I’m aware I could reduce the clock speeds quite a bit and the system stayed stable. It’s unclear if it actually improved performance, but it worked fine. I don’t have any resources that can guide me further on this.
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_WMG_
01-02-2019, 10:50 PM #5

I attempted memory overclocking a few months back... I wasn’t sure what each setting meant. I’m aware I could reduce the clock speeds quite a bit and the system stayed stable. It’s unclear if it actually improved performance, but it worked fine. I don’t have any resources that can guide me further on this.

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Arnaer
Member
126
01-02-2019, 11:45 PM
#6
Ryzen favors high frequency and flexible clock speeds, which is quite bold. It looks like they're really pushing these chips to match Intel's performance. My memory solution is SK Hynix, not great at storing data but affordable and compatible with four 4DIMMs. That gives me the chance to upgrade to 32 gigabytes and use some cache RAM for a reasonable cost. That’s a plus. Me too, that’s true. On my previous FX-8350 I attempted to adjust the primary timings slightly, but I wasn’t able to achieve perfect stability. I watched a video from Gamers Nexus showing them scratch the surface of this device, and it made me feel like my brain was about to burst.
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Arnaer
01-02-2019, 11:45 PM #6

Ryzen favors high frequency and flexible clock speeds, which is quite bold. It looks like they're really pushing these chips to match Intel's performance. My memory solution is SK Hynix, not great at storing data but affordable and compatible with four 4DIMMs. That gives me the chance to upgrade to 32 gigabytes and use some cache RAM for a reasonable cost. That’s a plus. Me too, that’s true. On my previous FX-8350 I attempted to adjust the primary timings slightly, but I wasn’t able to achieve perfect stability. I watched a video from Gamers Nexus showing them scratch the surface of this device, and it made me feel like my brain was about to burst.

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jonatan1234
Member
215
01-03-2019, 08:28 AM
#7
I usually believed faster settings were preferable... Perhaps I pushed my "overclock" too much :' D Alright, glad I could at least manage them since they came with - rumored to be - bad Hynix, maybe C-Dies. But over the two days I spent, I think I dedicated around 8-9 hours working on it :'
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jonatan1234
01-03-2019, 08:28 AM #7

I usually believed faster settings were preferable... Perhaps I pushed my "overclock" too much :' D Alright, glad I could at least manage them since they came with - rumored to be - bad Hynix, maybe C-Dies. But over the two days I spent, I think I dedicated around 8-9 hours working on it :'

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XMasacremcX
Junior Member
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01-03-2019, 10:04 AM
#8
They work well most of the time when stability is achieved. You can boost performance for consistency, or push it further for higher scores and benchmarks. Example:
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XMasacremcX
01-03-2019, 10:04 AM #8

They work well most of the time when stability is achieved. You can boost performance for consistency, or push it further for higher scores and benchmarks. Example:

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Asianest
Member
97
01-18-2019, 11:41 AM
#9
Tighter schedules slow down the system's ability to store and retrieve data from memory. Many timing settings control latency, meaning more relaxed timing reduces that delay, making reading and writing easier, though I'm not an expert in memory systems.
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Asianest
01-18-2019, 11:41 AM #9

Tighter schedules slow down the system's ability to store and retrieve data from memory. Many timing settings control latency, meaning more relaxed timing reduces that delay, making reading and writing easier, though I'm not an expert in memory systems.

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TOR3IK_CHANEL
Member
56
01-23-2019, 10:09 PM
#10
You're really enthusiastic about your CL 14!
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TOR3IK_CHANEL
01-23-2019, 10:09 PM #10

You're really enthusiastic about your CL 14!

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