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Why doesn't Valve fight back?

Why doesn't Valve fight back?

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KarmaNoob
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05-05-2019, 06:40 AM
#11
Epic Games and the reasons behind it...
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KarmaNoob
05-05-2019, 06:40 AM #11

Epic Games and the reasons behind it...

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JaSoN_Z
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05-09-2019, 07:00 PM
#12
Wait and observe.
We are heading toward a point where exclusives aren't just limited to consoles anymore. That's a strange thing to say, since Steam has had several exclusives and maintained a near-monopoly for quite some time. Blizzard (and later Activision) were the main rivals for a long period. Before EA launched Origin, you could still purchase games from various stores, but they were all on Steam. You can't play them otherwise. Personally, I find that kind of leniency a bit excusable.
So do what you have to do. Use your money wisely and say no to buying games that take away your freedom to choose a platform.
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JaSoN_Z
05-09-2019, 07:00 PM #12

Wait and observe.
We are heading toward a point where exclusives aren't just limited to consoles anymore. That's a strange thing to say, since Steam has had several exclusives and maintained a near-monopoly for quite some time. Blizzard (and later Activision) were the main rivals for a long period. Before EA launched Origin, you could still purchase games from various stores, but they were all on Steam. You can't play them otherwise. Personally, I find that kind of leniency a bit excusable.
So do what you have to do. Use your money wisely and say no to buying games that take away your freedom to choose a platform.

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MarissaGames
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05-11-2019, 12:59 AM
#13
Simple: because Valve is shortsighted and led by individuals who believe VR will be the future, even though their "killer VR title" has been stuck in development hell for years. They keep pushing VR despite most people not seeing any real benefit, spending a lot of money on headsets they don’t plan to use much.
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MarissaGames
05-11-2019, 12:59 AM #13

Simple: because Valve is shortsighted and led by individuals who believe VR will be the future, even though their "killer VR title" has been stuck in development hell for years. They keep pushing VR despite most people not seeing any real benefit, spending a lot of money on headsets they don’t plan to use much.

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GothicRuby
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05-12-2019, 06:31 PM
#14
Since I don't have a debit card and I've relied on Steam for a long time due to its support for PaySafeCard transactions, you can purchase a PSC from any shop or supermarket.
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GothicRuby
05-12-2019, 06:31 PM #14

Since I don't have a debit card and I've relied on Steam for a long time due to its support for PaySafeCard transactions, you can purchase a PSC from any shop or supermarket.

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Butterfly1416
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05-12-2019, 07:51 PM
#15
This too. I already use Battle.net, Origin, Uplay and Steam, and I’d rather have all my games in one place instead of on ten different launchers.
Maybe I overstated it, but I’ve got Borderlands 3, Ghost Recon Breakpoint (I know it’s available on Uplay, but I’d have liked to see it on Steam too), The Division 2, Anno, Beyond Two Souls, Detroit Become Human, Watch Dogs Legion, The Outer Worlds (not sure if it’s an AAA title but still), Control and many more.
Do you like Epic because they offer free games?
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Butterfly1416
05-12-2019, 07:51 PM #15

This too. I already use Battle.net, Origin, Uplay and Steam, and I’d rather have all my games in one place instead of on ten different launchers.
Maybe I overstated it, but I’ve got Borderlands 3, Ghost Recon Breakpoint (I know it’s available on Uplay, but I’d have liked to see it on Steam too), The Division 2, Anno, Beyond Two Souls, Detroit Become Human, Watch Dogs Legion, The Outer Worlds (not sure if it’s an AAA title but still), Control and many more.
Do you like Epic because they offer free games?

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TdotGamingYT
Junior Member
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05-20-2019, 05:00 PM
#16
Why can't Valve control everything?
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TdotGamingYT
05-20-2019, 05:00 PM #16

Why can't Valve control everything?

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Maxim69rus
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05-27-2019, 09:47 PM
#17
I prefer having these games only on Steam because it ensures a consistent and reliable experience across all platforms. Using multiple launchers can create compatibility issues or unexpected behavior, which is why I stick with one service. This approach also helps maintain control over my account details and avoids unnecessary risks. The exclusivity of this release on Steam adds value, making it a worthwhile choice for me.
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Maxim69rus
05-27-2019, 09:47 PM #17

I prefer having these games only on Steam because it ensures a consistent and reliable experience across all platforms. Using multiple launchers can create compatibility issues or unexpected behavior, which is why I stick with one service. This approach also helps maintain control over my account details and avoids unnecessary risks. The exclusivity of this release on Steam adds value, making it a worthwhile choice for me.

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FanEnsemble
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05-29-2019, 03:08 PM
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Their ways? You mean paying them to hop ship? That's a pretty legitimate business strategy and there is zero wrong with it. It's just like when a sports team pays an athlete a ton of money to work for them and leave their old team.
People used to love PS Plus because they got "free" games and they weren't even free since you had to pay for the service lol.
Getting free things is a pretty legit reason to love a store.
Ding ding ding. Exactly.
I see so many people complain about Epic not just because it is inferior to Steam, but because they hate the business practice of paying for exclusives. They think it is "shady" and "unethical". Expecting Valve to fight back would involve more than just giving developers a bigger cut. That is't going to be enough when Epic is paying huge cash bonuses that would likely exceed whatever slight amount extra they might receive from Steam taking less of the pie. So the real way for Valve to fight back is to start signing exclusivity deals.
I bet 90% of the people who complain about this from a moral point of view or whatever would just remain silent then. Really, I think most people are just mad they can't play on their platform of choice. These same people wouldn't be out boycotting Steam saying what they are doing is wrong if they started doing what Epic does.
You can get a re-loadable debit or gift card from about any store or super market as well though. Just do that.
Wal-Mart offers the Amex Bluebird and that has zero fees for pretty much everything.
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FanEnsemble
05-29-2019, 03:08 PM #18

Their ways? You mean paying them to hop ship? That's a pretty legitimate business strategy and there is zero wrong with it. It's just like when a sports team pays an athlete a ton of money to work for them and leave their old team.
People used to love PS Plus because they got "free" games and they weren't even free since you had to pay for the service lol.
Getting free things is a pretty legit reason to love a store.
Ding ding ding. Exactly.
I see so many people complain about Epic not just because it is inferior to Steam, but because they hate the business practice of paying for exclusives. They think it is "shady" and "unethical". Expecting Valve to fight back would involve more than just giving developers a bigger cut. That is't going to be enough when Epic is paying huge cash bonuses that would likely exceed whatever slight amount extra they might receive from Steam taking less of the pie. So the real way for Valve to fight back is to start signing exclusivity deals.
I bet 90% of the people who complain about this from a moral point of view or whatever would just remain silent then. Really, I think most people are just mad they can't play on their platform of choice. These same people wouldn't be out boycotting Steam saying what they are doing is wrong if they started doing what Epic does.
You can get a re-loadable debit or gift card from about any store or super market as well though. Just do that.
Wal-Mart offers the Amex Bluebird and that has zero fees for pretty much everything.

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LaughfinCoffe
Junior Member
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06-01-2019, 04:34 AM
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Walmart, since everyone resides in the United States
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LaughfinCoffe
06-01-2019, 04:34 AM #19

Walmart, since everyone resides in the United States

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Mel_Kawaii
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06-01-2019, 04:54 AM
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It was merely a recommendation among most other supermarkets. If you lack one in your area, simply visit another location and obtain a gift card or re-loadable debit card as suggested.
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Mel_Kawaii
06-01-2019, 04:54 AM #20

It was merely a recommendation among most other supermarkets. If you lack one in your area, simply visit another location and obtain a gift card or re-loadable debit card as suggested.

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