F5F Stay Refreshed Hardware Desktop What are your thoughts on this latest design?

What are your thoughts on this latest design?

What are your thoughts on this latest design?

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A_Sound
Senior Member
486
04-27-2021, 04:19 PM
#1
I'm setting up a gaming PC and wondering whether switching to DDR5 is worthwhile compared to DDR4.
My budget is about 1500 to 1600€.
The build I'm considering is here: https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/list/qkkcGP.
Please share your thoughts!
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A_Sound
04-27-2021, 04:19 PM #1

I'm setting up a gaming PC and wondering whether switching to DDR5 is worthwhile compared to DDR4.
My budget is about 1500 to 1600€.
The build I'm considering is here: https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/list/qkkcGP.
Please share your thoughts!

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Char1ie_XD
Senior Member
578
04-29-2021, 10:16 PM
#2
Additional resources: Understanding the need for a dual RTX 4070? You're aware that SLI is no longer relevant, are you? Also, why are you opting for a more affordable PSU? 🙄 It's clear you understand that the PSU supplies power to all components, making it the most crucial part of your system. Your PC build has been slightly adjusted; PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor (€360.00) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler (€98.80 @ Switch Technology) Motherboard: MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard (€121.90) Memory: Kingston FURY Renegade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (€99.90 @ Globaldata) Storage: Kingston KC3000 1.024 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€79.90) Video Card: MSI VENTUS 2X GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card (€629.90) Case: Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case (€64.90 @ PCDIGA) Power Supply: SeaSonic VERTEX GX-750 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€179.90 @ Globaldata) Case Fan: Fractal Design Aspect 12 PWM 56 CFM 120 mm Fan (€16.80 @ Switch Technology) Monitor: AOC 24G2U/BK 24.0" 1920 x 1080 144 Hz Monitor (Purchased For €0.00) Overall Cost: €1652.00 All prices cover shipping, taxes, and applicable discounts Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-12-03 21:10 WET+0000 Modifications; Switched to Noctua NH-D15S for a more economical solution. Since your case lacks a vent, the RGB display on the AIO isn't visible. Additionally, AIOs typically have a lifespan of 3-5 years, whereas air coolers can last much longer. The only component prone to failure in an air cooler is the fan itself; replacing it is simple and inexpensive. In contrast, with an AIO, the pump often fails, necessitating a full replacement, which would be significantly more expensive than just a 120/140mm fan. Removed second RTX 4070. Upgraded PSU to a higher-quality unit with adequate wattage and compatible ATX 3.0/PCI-E 5.0 standards.
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Char1ie_XD
04-29-2021, 10:16 PM #2

Additional resources: Understanding the need for a dual RTX 4070? You're aware that SLI is no longer relevant, are you? Also, why are you opting for a more affordable PSU? 🙄 It's clear you understand that the PSU supplies power to all components, making it the most crucial part of your system. Your PC build has been slightly adjusted; PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor (€360.00) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler (€98.80 @ Switch Technology) Motherboard: MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard (€121.90) Memory: Kingston FURY Renegade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (€99.90 @ Globaldata) Storage: Kingston KC3000 1.024 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€79.90) Video Card: MSI VENTUS 2X GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card (€629.90) Case: Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case (€64.90 @ PCDIGA) Power Supply: SeaSonic VERTEX GX-750 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€179.90 @ Globaldata) Case Fan: Fractal Design Aspect 12 PWM 56 CFM 120 mm Fan (€16.80 @ Switch Technology) Monitor: AOC 24G2U/BK 24.0" 1920 x 1080 144 Hz Monitor (Purchased For €0.00) Overall Cost: €1652.00 All prices cover shipping, taxes, and applicable discounts Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-12-03 21:10 WET+0000 Modifications; Switched to Noctua NH-D15S for a more economical solution. Since your case lacks a vent, the RGB display on the AIO isn't visible. Additionally, AIOs typically have a lifespan of 3-5 years, whereas air coolers can last much longer. The only component prone to failure in an air cooler is the fan itself; replacing it is simple and inexpensive. In contrast, with an AIO, the pump often fails, necessitating a full replacement, which would be significantly more expensive than just a 120/140mm fan. Removed second RTX 4070. Upgraded PSU to a higher-quality unit with adequate wattage and compatible ATX 3.0/PCI-E 5.0 standards.

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walee123
Senior Member
737
05-07-2021, 06:56 PM
#3
I made an error removing one of the graphics. I'm worried about DDR4 due to its upgrade options. With DDR5, I could enhance the specifications later without needing to replace the entire PC.
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walee123
05-07-2021, 06:56 PM #3

I made an error removing one of the graphics. I'm worried about DDR4 due to its upgrade options. With DDR5, I could enhance the specifications later without needing to replace the entire PC.

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Zikblackniggg
Member
145
05-07-2021, 09:27 PM
#4
When discussing RAM, the only aspect that needs upgrading is the capacity. Increasing the frequency isn't really worthwhile.
For example, with DDR4, the optimal range is around 3000/3200 Mhz. Of course, you can find DDR4 modules at 4366 Mhz or higher, but those DIMMs are prohibitively expensive and offer minimal performance benefits.
With DDR5, the starting frequency is 4800 Mhz, and most current kits reach about 5600 Mhz. Higher-end options exist, but they're still not very cost-effective.
However, DDR5 prices have dropped somewhat, making them slightly more affordable than DDR4 units. You might consider opting for a DDR5 module if you prefer.
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Zikblackniggg
05-07-2021, 09:27 PM #4

When discussing RAM, the only aspect that needs upgrading is the capacity. Increasing the frequency isn't really worthwhile.
For example, with DDR4, the optimal range is around 3000/3200 Mhz. Of course, you can find DDR4 modules at 4366 Mhz or higher, but those DIMMs are prohibitively expensive and offer minimal performance benefits.
With DDR5, the starting frequency is 4800 Mhz, and most current kits reach about 5600 Mhz. Higher-end options exist, but they're still not very cost-effective.
However, DDR5 prices have dropped somewhat, making them slightly more affordable than DDR4 units. You might consider opting for a DDR5 module if you prefer.

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OFEK1
Member
69
05-14-2021, 08:16 PM
#5
Yeah, I guess I'm more likely to go with DD5. What specs should I consider for the same budget?
Sorry to waste your time.
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OFEK1
05-14-2021, 08:16 PM #5

Yeah, I guess I'm more likely to go with DD5. What specs should I consider for the same budget?
Sorry to waste your time.

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simonsmurf
Junior Member
6
05-15-2021, 03:09 AM
#6
Doesn't your upgraded look fit within the €1600 limit?
🤔
If a high-quality PSU exceeds that amount, then you might need to reduce either the CPU or GPU. But never compromise on the PSU!
Edit:
My recommendation:
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU:
Intel Core i5-14600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor
(€342.90 @ Switch Technology)
CPU Cooler:
Noctua NH-D15S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler
(€98.80 @ Switch Technology)
Motherboard:
MSI PRO Z790-S WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard
(€239.89 @ PC Componentes)
Memory:
Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory
(€117.50 @ Switch Technology)
Storage:
Kingston KC3000 2.048 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD
(€124.50 @ Switch Technology)
Video Card:
MSI VENTUS 2X BLACK OC GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card
(€340.44 @ PC Componentes)
Case:
Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case
(€64.90 @ PCDIGA)
Power Supply:
SeaSonic VERTEX GX-750 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
(€179.90 @ Globaldata)
Case Fan:
Fractal Design Aspect 12 PWM 56 CFM 120 mm Fan
(€16.80 @ Switch Technology)
Monitor:
AOC 24G2U/BK 24.0" 1920 x 1080 144 Hz Monitor
(Purchased For €0.00)
Total:
€1525.63
Prices cover shipping, taxes, and any available discounts
Generated by
PCPartPicker
2023-12-03 21:57 WET+0000
Short summary;
I chose the Intel CPU because it offers better value compared to your Ryzen option, and it’s more affordable.
A quick comparison:
https://www.pcguide.com/cpu/core-i5-1460...7-5800x3d/
With the Intel chip, I adjusted the motherboard as well. The RAM stayed at DDR5 capacity matching your previous setup.
I had to downgrade the GPU to RTX 4060 due to budget constraints; the RTX 4070 wouldn’t fit. Upgrading the GPU later is much simpler than changing the CPU.
Most systems typically upgrade the GPU first, then the CPU when a better combo becomes available.
The PSU remains the same quality 750W unit—there’s no need to reduce it if you plan to upgrade the GPU in the future, which will require a more powerful power supply.
With this approach, your build stays within budget while ensuring top-notch components overall.
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simonsmurf
05-15-2021, 03:09 AM #6

Doesn't your upgraded look fit within the €1600 limit?
🤔
If a high-quality PSU exceeds that amount, then you might need to reduce either the CPU or GPU. But never compromise on the PSU!
Edit:
My recommendation:
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU:
Intel Core i5-14600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor
(€342.90 @ Switch Technology)
CPU Cooler:
Noctua NH-D15S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler
(€98.80 @ Switch Technology)
Motherboard:
MSI PRO Z790-S WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard
(€239.89 @ PC Componentes)
Memory:
Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory
(€117.50 @ Switch Technology)
Storage:
Kingston KC3000 2.048 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD
(€124.50 @ Switch Technology)
Video Card:
MSI VENTUS 2X BLACK OC GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card
(€340.44 @ PC Componentes)
Case:
Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case
(€64.90 @ PCDIGA)
Power Supply:
SeaSonic VERTEX GX-750 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
(€179.90 @ Globaldata)
Case Fan:
Fractal Design Aspect 12 PWM 56 CFM 120 mm Fan
(€16.80 @ Switch Technology)
Monitor:
AOC 24G2U/BK 24.0" 1920 x 1080 144 Hz Monitor
(Purchased For €0.00)
Total:
€1525.63
Prices cover shipping, taxes, and any available discounts
Generated by
PCPartPicker
2023-12-03 21:57 WET+0000
Short summary;
I chose the Intel CPU because it offers better value compared to your Ryzen option, and it’s more affordable.
A quick comparison:
https://www.pcguide.com/cpu/core-i5-1460...7-5800x3d/
With the Intel chip, I adjusted the motherboard as well. The RAM stayed at DDR5 capacity matching your previous setup.
I had to downgrade the GPU to RTX 4060 due to budget constraints; the RTX 4070 wouldn’t fit. Upgrading the GPU later is much simpler than changing the CPU.
Most systems typically upgrade the GPU first, then the CPU when a better combo becomes available.
The PSU remains the same quality 750W unit—there’s no need to reduce it if you plan to upgrade the GPU in the future, which will require a more powerful power supply.
With this approach, your build stays within budget while ensuring top-notch components overall.

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Shemo1
Member
64
05-15-2021, 09:59 AM
#7
Sorry :/
I didn't realize it was already dd5.
Thank you very much for your assistance and the time you took!
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Shemo1
05-15-2021, 09:59 AM #7

Sorry :/
I didn't realize it was already dd5.
Thank you very much for your assistance and the time you took!

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VVortex297
Junior Member
5
05-15-2021, 01:55 PM
#8
Updated my previous response and included the build suggestion. Please check it out.
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VVortex297
05-15-2021, 01:55 PM #8

Updated my previous response and included the build suggestion. Please check it out.

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Drake0n
Junior Member
21
05-30-2021, 02:25 AM
#9
I made some adjustments from this version to the alternative, and it's alright if it exceeds the budget slightly.
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Drake0n
05-30-2021, 02:25 AM #9

I made some adjustments from this version to the alternative, and it's alright if it exceeds the budget slightly.

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How2Cow
Junior Member
3
06-06-2021, 08:50 AM
#10
Differences between the first and second suggestions?
If yes;
CPU: R7 5800X3D - i5-14600K
Boards: MSI MPG B550 Gaming Plus DDR4 - MSI PRO Z790-S WIFI DDR5
RAM: 2 x 16 GB DDR4-3600 CL16 - 2 x 16 GB DDR5-6000 CL36
M.2: KC3000 1TB - KC3000 2TB
GPU: RTX 4070 - RTX 4060
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How2Cow
06-06-2021, 08:50 AM #10

Differences between the first and second suggestions?
If yes;
CPU: R7 5800X3D - i5-14600K
Boards: MSI MPG B550 Gaming Plus DDR4 - MSI PRO Z790-S WIFI DDR5
RAM: 2 x 16 GB DDR4-3600 CL16 - 2 x 16 GB DDR5-6000 CL36
M.2: KC3000 1TB - KC3000 2TB
GPU: RTX 4070 - RTX 4060

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