What are your thoughts on this latest design?
What are your thoughts on this latest design?
Don't invest in DDR5 for gaming. The gains are real, but they don’t justify the upgrade. Yes, DDR5 can boost frame rates, but you must manage your expectations. Unless you're a dedicated gamer who doesn’t mind sacrificing performance, it’s probably not worth it.
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Currently, DDR4 provides better value for money. For instance, a DDR5-4800 32GB C40 kit costs around $73, while a DDR4-3200 32GB C16 model is available for as little as $50. Although the latter offers a 6% performance increase, it’s also 46% more expensive. DDR5 prices may drop over time, but they won’t match the value of high-end DDR4 until it improves.
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DDR5 brings more long-term security, though DDR4 isn’t disappearing overnight. It’s clear that future processors will eventually phase out DDR4 support. Switching to DDR5 today lets you adapt for upcoming systems. The drawback is that DDR5 is still developing, so better options will emerge soon.
What are your thoughts? I’m still unsure what to do... Thanks for your time.
This is something you can easily mitigate when you buy DDR5 that is faster than 4800 MHz, e.g 5600/6000 Mhz and enable the faster RAM profile from BIOS, so that the RAM actually runs at advertised speeds.
This quote is somewhat true. Then again DDR3 is even cheaper than DDR4, but it doesn't mean one should go with DDR3 MoBo (latest MoBos that support DDR3 would be Intel 100-series chipset, supporting Intel 6th gen Skylake CPUs).
E.g the DDR5 i put into my 2nd suggestion, it costs €117. That's €18 more than the DDR4 kit you picked initially. Of course, frequency is far higher for DDR5, at 6000 Mhz, compared to 3600 Mhz DDR4 you picked. So, as of current date, DDR5 prices have come down quite a lot, making DDR5 worthwhile (price wise).
This is true. DDR5 launched a while back and if you go with AMD, you don't have an option between DDR4 or DDR5.
AMD Ryzen 1000, 2000, 3000 and 5000-series CPUs support only DDR4. (Using old AM4 socket.)
AMD Ryzen 7000-series CPUs support only DDR5. (Using new AM5 socket.)
With Intel, you have an option;
Intel 12th gen, 13th gen and 14th gen work on Intel 600- and 700-series chipset MoBos. Both chipset series MoBos offer DDR4 and DDR5 MoBos. (Using LGA1700 socket.)
So, future proofing wise, if you go with Ryzen 5000-series CPU (like 5800X3D you picked), you're stuck with dead platform. Ryzen 7000-series CPUs work only with AM5 socket MoBos, while your MoBo would be AM4 socket.
With Intel, latest CPU generation is 14th series and 600- and 700-chipset MoBos work with it. Perhaps even upcoming 800-series chipset as well. But when Intel moves on to 15th gen CPUs and 900-series chipset MoBos, Intel usually changes CPU socket and you can't upgrade your CPU, without replacing MoBo as well.
With this, and IF you plan to upgrade CPU at later date, your best bet would be going with Ryzen 7000-series and AM5 MoBo (which only supports DDR5). Since with that, you can be sure that the next CPU generation (perhaps even 2 or 3 next generations) are supported by your MoBo.
Though, most people doesn't upgrade their CPU that easily, instead like to keep the CPU running for 5-10 years. By that time, far different CPUs/MoBos/RAM are available (e.g DDR6) and it would be easier to go with new CPU-MoBo-RAM combo.
avoid anything that uses 8gb of VRAM to save money on a 13600k and a b760, or i would consider the b650 7700 non x and a 7800xt or 7900xt cl30 6000 ddr5
There seems to be no solid justification beyond the statement about GPU VRAM.
Additionally, investing more money could be achieved with an i5-13500, which is more appropriate for B-series MoBo.
K-series CPUs can be overclocked and thus work best with Z-series MoBo.
Although B-series MoBos can support OC K-series chips, it's not recommended because their VRMs often fall short in CPU overclocking performance, making Z-series the preferred choice.
The R7 7700 price matches that of the 14600K, while the Ryzen model offers fewer cores and threads compared to Intel, resulting in a less efficient CPU overall.
For more details on the i5-14600K, see: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel...i5-14600k/
Well, the LGA1700 isn't really worth it anymore, and AM5 still has a decent lifespan. So I'm focusing on the 14600k, which is just a bit better than the 13600k, but it still offers more value compared to the 7700! Unless you're talking about the 14700k—the top of the 14th generation, which is even better than the 7700 and still on a limited platform.
From a CPU perspective, even a 13600K model performs better than the R7 7700, balancing both speed and cost. The AMD AM5 socket offers more value because it supports future CPU releases, whereas the Intel LGA1700 socket might only work with the 14th generation, leaving the 15th generation incompatible.
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