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Wayland, perhaps that wasn't a great plan...

Wayland, perhaps that wasn't a great plan...

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EmmaRosie629
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02-09-2016, 10:12 AM
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Many valuable insights here, but why didn't they refresh x11?
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EmmaRosie629
02-09-2016, 10:12 AM #1

Many valuable insights here, but why didn't they refresh x11?

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shanty_sniper
Junior Member
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02-10-2016, 11:20 PM
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Instead of only sharing YouTube clips as status updates, posting the videos along with a breakdown of your thoughts would be more helpful.
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shanty_sniper
02-10-2016, 11:20 PM #2

Instead of only sharing YouTube clips as status updates, posting the videos along with a breakdown of your thoughts would be more helpful.

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figglehorn165
Junior Member
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02-11-2016, 05:29 AM
#3
I haven’t seen that video, but I wonder if many Linux distributions have reached end-of-life versions. Or is this a separate topic altogether?
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figglehorn165
02-11-2016, 05:29 AM #3

I haven’t seen that video, but I wonder if many Linux distributions have reached end-of-life versions. Or is this a separate topic altogether?

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bronzered
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02-11-2016, 06:40 AM
#4
Often the amount of existing code makes updating for new hardware or APIs feel like a huge challenge. You might have to invest heavily in keeping old systems working instead of building fresh features. Alternatively, you'll face the risk of breaking compatibility just as much as gaining new capabilities. Beginning from scratch lets you use current coding practices without worrying about maintaining the past or rewriting old code. This usually speeds up progress—like the long development timeline for Wayland. It's also not the first major end-of-life release; older kernel versions and distros have ended over time.
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bronzered
02-11-2016, 06:40 AM #4

Often the amount of existing code makes updating for new hardware or APIs feel like a huge challenge. You might have to invest heavily in keeping old systems working instead of building fresh features. Alternatively, you'll face the risk of breaking compatibility just as much as gaining new capabilities. Beginning from scratch lets you use current coding practices without worrying about maintaining the past or rewriting old code. This usually speeds up progress—like the long development timeline for Wayland. It's also not the first major end-of-life release; older kernel versions and distros have ended over time.

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zomboose
Junior Member
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02-11-2016, 09:30 AM
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It's focused on system protocols and design rather than data formats.
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zomboose
02-11-2016, 09:30 AM #5

It's focused on system protocols and design rather than data formats.

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Highlighting
Member
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02-16-2016, 02:44 PM
#6
X won’t be at risk of dying soon since it can’t serve as the graphical server for remote applications (Wayland isn’t built for that) and because it’s popular beyond just Linux environments.
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Highlighting
02-16-2016, 02:44 PM #6

X won’t be at risk of dying soon since it can’t serve as the graphical server for remote applications (Wayland isn’t built for that) and because it’s popular beyond just Linux environments.

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Zelda11215
Junior Member
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02-23-2016, 05:29 PM
#7
Wayland's name seems confusing. It likely stands for End-of-Life on Linux, and the arguments make sense. Not sure why the developers didn't realize this before.
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Zelda11215
02-23-2016, 05:29 PM #7

Wayland's name seems confusing. It likely stands for End-of-Life on Linux, and the arguments make sense. Not sure why the developers didn't realize this before.

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Ethann1
Member
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02-23-2016, 08:48 PM
#8
I ran Ubuntu LTS, changed KDE from X11 to Wayland, and ended up with apps showing only half the icons as identical. It’s frustrating because I’m not sure how to spot the changes without looking up the wiki.
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Ethann1
02-23-2016, 08:48 PM #8

I ran Ubuntu LTS, changed KDE from X11 to Wayland, and ended up with apps showing only half the icons as identical. It’s frustrating because I’m not sure how to spot the changes without looking up the wiki.

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coolgamer33
Member
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02-25-2016, 08:39 AM
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It seems the latest updates haven’t been made for X11, which could be a setback for many Linux users. Are BSD systems using Wayland? Finding a place to share this information is important so developers and creators can see it.
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coolgamer33
02-25-2016, 08:39 AM #9

It seems the latest updates haven’t been made for X11, which could be a setback for many Linux users. Are BSD systems using Wayland? Finding a place to share this information is important so developers and creators can see it.

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KilleurMiino
Member
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03-04-2016, 05:32 PM
#10
X11 is quite old, and the code is hard to maintain because it's a mess. If you're not interested, just keep it yourself—it's open source and anyone can use or improve it. The reason we're here is that few people are putting in the effort, and there are solid reasons for that. FreeBSD can run Wayland instead of X11, similar to other Linux distros, as their docs show. Some BSD systems haven't fully ported Wayland yet because it was designed for Linux, and niche projects often take time and resources. Didn't realize what?
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KilleurMiino
03-04-2016, 05:32 PM #10

X11 is quite old, and the code is hard to maintain because it's a mess. If you're not interested, just keep it yourself—it's open source and anyone can use or improve it. The reason we're here is that few people are putting in the effort, and there are solid reasons for that. FreeBSD can run Wayland instead of X11, similar to other Linux distros, as their docs show. Some BSD systems haven't fully ported Wayland yet because it was designed for Linux, and niche projects often take time and resources. Didn't realize what?

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