Upgrade to x3D for improved performance and features.
Upgrade to x3D for improved performance and features.
Fire_Droid
11-24-2022, 09:46 PM #1Your upgrade plan focuses on AM4 architecture. Based on your usage, a 5700X3D would be suitable. If you prefer saving costs, the 5800X3D offers similar performance at a lower price.
It's not a good deal in WoW with a 5600, especially if you're looking to save money. It could be better, but only if you really need to cut costs elsewhere. Priorit<|pad|>'s should focus on spending wisely rather than chasing upgrades. The 5700x3d/5800x3D ratio makes more sense for a 2000/3000 Ryzen processor instead of a 5000.
Shadowxplayz23
11-30-2022, 06:15 PM #3I'm not sure about the exact comparison I was thinking of. Should I check if it's worth it by saving $50 and choosing the 5700x3d or spending that extra $50 on the best AM4 CPU? My 5600 has its own advantages, and seeing right now is helpful.
minefoudre
12-02-2022, 03:08 PM #4It's subjective, but you're right to consider your own value. Would you agree that paying $50 for a 400MHz chip with a 5800x3D is reasonable? You might also check eBay for similar listings, likely matching the price of a 5700x3D. I personally upgraded from a 3800x to a 5800x3D back in November 2022 and it still made sense.
I don't aim for the highest possible FPS, but I want a more consistent rate and better performance from contestants. @Agall mentioned switching from a non-x3d processor to an x3D one with extra L3 cache would assist with my problems. This is especially useful in situations with many spell effects or players, like in BGs or Raids, where my PC slows down or in busy areas. They suggested upgrading the GPU instead, but I felt the x3D CPU upgrade would give more benefit than spending $600-800 on a better GPU. WoW really appreciates 3D v-cache; I saw its benefits when playing in Shadowlands (from tbc to SL s4). A 3950x versus 5800x3D gave about a 50% boost in minimum FPS. My brother had a 5800x3D with 3600MHz RAM and noticed a 100% jump from his R5 3600 and 3000MHz RAM. I've been eager to try Stormwind/Orgimmar on Classic with my 7950x3D, testing between CCD0 and CCD1 (one has v-cache, the other doesn't), which would be the best way to answer your question. In other titles, the improvement was clear, especially in minimum and average FPS. Warframe also showed similar CPU limitations with NPC/player positioning, often causing a 50% FPS drop between CCD0 and CCD1 in tough scenarios. Generally, 3D v-cache boosts low frames but doesn't reach the same speed as a faster clock, leading to smoother and steadier performance. This is most noticeable in multiplayer or MMO games that interact with servers. The only recent WoW test I ran was during the last free weekend in Orgrimmar, where player counts were low. That test compared a 4790k and 7950x3D with a 4090 at 4K, showing 160 fps versus 330 fps. Since I achieved 160 fps in Orgrimmar on an older CPU, it suggests the environment was sparse. @Agall shared that my main issues occur in the current city, where many players have lower FPS, and in certain raids and BGs. That's why I considered an x3D CPU upgrade. I usually get 40-60 FPS in the city and between 65-160 FPS in raids, depending on location and bosses. For instance, during the raid Amirdrassil: The Dream's Hope, my CPU usage spiked to 80% during the final boss fight, dropping from ~50-60% in other areas. This happened on a very old CPU, indicating low player density. @Shimejii
3D v-cache performs well in games similar to WoW within dense environments. Raising the graphics to 5600–5700x3D is generally tough to suggest, though it makes sense if you're just playing WoW. Still, upgrading to AM5 and 7800x3D could be beneficial. I haven't tested the performance improvements at 7000x3D since my last session (my brother's system is still running it).
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minecrafter_14
12-18-2022, 09:41 AM #10The problem lies in my lack of preparation during the build process. It took roughly 11 months until I actually assembled the system. Once completed, online users advised against using AM4 for new builds, but recommendations kept changing as I progressed. I should have invested a bit more early on for AM5, based on my research and personal trials. From what I've read and discussed with fellow players, WoW performs better with Intel and NVIDIA than AMD. I own two guild members with 4070 Ti, one with a 12700KF and another with a 5800X3D, all running at maximum graphics settings. Intel generally outperformed AMD in my experience. HOWEVER! In battlefields, AMD sometimes surpassed Intel, and during intense CPU-heavy raids, Intel showed stronger performance. WoW would benefit from engine updates or better optimization. You need a powerful machine for 60fps, especially at 1440p. As I mentioned earlier, either wait for AM5 or opt for a 12th-gen Intel board that could upgrade to 14th-gen with a BIOS update. (For example, getting a 12400F and upgrading to 13700K or 14700K wouldn’t make sense.) I’m fortunate enough to have purchased a decent ASUS motherboard that supports AM4, and a 750W PSU capable of handling a 5800X3D and 4070Ti. That said, I plan to buy a 5800X3D and will share my findings. @Agall If I really didn’t notice a significant difference, I intended to push my socket limits in one direction. Then it came down to GPU, RAM, and storage. With a 5800X3D, 4070Ti, and sufficient RAM, I should have a much stronger start. . Later