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Turn off certain cores to boost memory usage.

Turn off certain cores to boost memory usage.

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DJrg82
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10-14-2018, 05:05 PM
#1
i've been experimenting with overclocking and everything seems to be working fine. my setup is a 5950x16c/32t, 64gb ram spread across four sticks, using asus rog crosshair v8. it's not the dark hero; everything is watercooled on a custom loop, and the graphics cards are also pretty powerful after digging into the bios (latest version around 5002 from early February 2025). i found an option to disable certain cores, like ccd or 0, to free up cache space for the remaining cores. my goal is to see if a "5800x3d" could fit on my 5950x. although i wanted the 5800x3d, i ended up choosing the 5950 from a 5900 because it was available. ccd does have the fastest and most efficient cores while also running at lower voltages. if i disable cores (could you explain how to disable ccd0?) would that give me more cache on ccd1? i'm just curious if using more cache could improve fps by around 10% or so. it's not a priority since windows and most applications run smoothly, and my 4090 handles games fine. i'm wondering if I could push the fps up a bit more with this approach. thanks! whoop!!
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DJrg82
10-14-2018, 05:05 PM #1

i've been experimenting with overclocking and everything seems to be working fine. my setup is a 5950x16c/32t, 64gb ram spread across four sticks, using asus rog crosshair v8. it's not the dark hero; everything is watercooled on a custom loop, and the graphics cards are also pretty powerful after digging into the bios (latest version around 5002 from early February 2025). i found an option to disable certain cores, like ccd or 0, to free up cache space for the remaining cores. my goal is to see if a "5800x3d" could fit on my 5950x. although i wanted the 5800x3d, i ended up choosing the 5950 from a 5900 because it was available. ccd does have the fastest and most efficient cores while also running at lower voltages. if i disable cores (could you explain how to disable ccd0?) would that give me more cache on ccd1? i'm just curious if using more cache could improve fps by around 10% or so. it's not a priority since windows and most applications run smoothly, and my 4090 handles games fine. i'm wondering if I could push the fps up a bit more with this approach. thanks! whoop!!

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Angeli4234
Member
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10-14-2018, 05:05 PM
#2
Typically you can't turn off CCXs but you can disable CCDs, which covers all cores and cache. In this scenario, you'd essentially be getting a 5800X. What sets X3D CPUs apart is their 96MB L3 cache on each single CCD/CCX unit, reducing the impact of distributed L3 cache issues and eliminating the need to jump over the IF for full cache access. You might have been better off with a 5700X3D if maximizing FPS was your goal.
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Angeli4234
10-14-2018, 05:05 PM #2

Typically you can't turn off CCXs but you can disable CCDs, which covers all cores and cache. In this scenario, you'd essentially be getting a 5800X. What sets X3D CPUs apart is their 96MB L3 cache on each single CCD/CCX unit, reducing the impact of distributed L3 cache issues and eliminating the need to jump over the IF for full cache access. You might have been better off with a 5700X3D if maximizing FPS was your goal.

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Karina
Junior Member
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10-14-2018, 05:05 PM
#3
I don't understand why I'm surprised. It seemed more likely to be split between the two parts instead of spread out. Are there any ways to tweak the CPU settings to turn off those extra cores on each chipset to boost available cache? I saw some options in the BIOS that made me nervous about changing them. I think something like 0+4 and 1+5 might work, though I'm not checking the bios right now. Also, there are Numa nodes, but I thought they were only for servers with multiple CPUs. My U2 server, for example, has 24 DDR3 modules and two Xeon 6490s or similar. It's 2.4GHz, 384GB RAM, dual processors. Both watercooled units are noisy—90mm fans are really loud, even in the basement I can hear them humming like a jet engine from the top floor! This feels like something that needs fixing. My machine has a 4090, 64GB RAM, 5950X, around 120fps on most AAA games at full settings. But my monitor only goes up to 240Hz. Do I really need G-Sync if it's not limiting my FPS potential? I'm not too worried about latency since I mostly play single-player games outside of that. Thanks for the quick and clear answer!
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Karina
10-14-2018, 05:05 PM #3

I don't understand why I'm surprised. It seemed more likely to be split between the two parts instead of spread out. Are there any ways to tweak the CPU settings to turn off those extra cores on each chipset to boost available cache? I saw some options in the BIOS that made me nervous about changing them. I think something like 0+4 and 1+5 might work, though I'm not checking the bios right now. Also, there are Numa nodes, but I thought they were only for servers with multiple CPUs. My U2 server, for example, has 24 DDR3 modules and two Xeon 6490s or similar. It's 2.4GHz, 384GB RAM, dual processors. Both watercooled units are noisy—90mm fans are really loud, even in the basement I can hear them humming like a jet engine from the top floor! This feels like something that needs fixing. My machine has a 4090, 64GB RAM, 5950X, around 120fps on most AAA games at full settings. But my monitor only goes up to 240Hz. Do I really need G-Sync if it's not limiting my FPS potential? I'm not too worried about latency since I mostly play single-player games outside of that. Thanks for the quick and clear answer!

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Richiekim
Junior Member
40
10-14-2018, 05:05 PM
#4
The resolution remains challenging even at high settings like 7800X3D 1080p240. Adjusting your game configurations is essential to maintain a stable frame rate. You might be amazed at how far you can push performance before noticeable delays appear after just ten minutes.
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Richiekim
10-14-2018, 05:05 PM #4

The resolution remains challenging even at high settings like 7800X3D 1080p240. Adjusting your game configurations is essential to maintain a stable frame rate. You might be amazed at how far you can push performance before noticeable delays appear after just ten minutes.

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19ten
Junior Member
40
10-14-2018, 05:05 PM
#5
The resolution might be affecting my expectations for 120fps at 120Hz on Ultra Everything. Even with disabled less efficient cores, keeping the 4x4 available helps maximize cache usage.
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19ten
10-14-2018, 05:05 PM #5

The resolution might be affecting my expectations for 120fps at 120Hz on Ultra Everything. Even with disabled less efficient cores, keeping the 4x4 available helps maximize cache usage.

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tsnyder01
Member
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10-14-2018, 05:05 PM
#6
I think 1440p ultrawide holds more pixels than 4K, so in your mind could you achieve that quality at 4K? If not, you won’t get it with 1440UW. Edit: after checking, it’s actually a bit fewer pixels but much nearer to 4K’s count than typical 1440p.
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tsnyder01
10-14-2018, 05:05 PM #6

I think 1440p ultrawide holds more pixels than 4K, so in your mind could you achieve that quality at 4K? If not, you won’t get it with 1440UW. Edit: after checking, it’s actually a bit fewer pixels but much nearer to 4K’s count than typical 1440p.

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HamishMcO
Junior Member
34
10-14-2018, 05:05 PM
#7
You might want to give it a shot. I haven't seen any tests for a 4+4 setup with Zen 3 before. My guess is that the extra delay from communication between cores could slow things down compared to an 8+0 layout where just one CCD is active. On the other hand, more cache per core might offset some of that lag. It's tough to tell without real-world testing.
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HamishMcO
10-14-2018, 05:05 PM #7

You might want to give it a shot. I haven't seen any tests for a 4+4 setup with Zen 3 before. My guess is that the extra delay from communication between cores could slow things down compared to an 8+0 layout where just one CCD is active. On the other hand, more cache per core might offset some of that lag. It's tough to tell without real-world testing.

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Nitro_PT
Member
182
10-14-2018, 05:05 PM
#8
Ignoring core disabling in most scenarios isn't worth it. It feels like switching to a different CPU design. There are benchmarks, and a 5800x usually can't surpass a 5950x significantly. If you need extra cache, consider adding more X3D components.
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Nitro_PT
10-14-2018, 05:05 PM #8

Ignoring core disabling in most scenarios isn't worth it. It feels like switching to a different CPU design. There are benchmarks, and a 5800x usually can't surpass a 5950x significantly. If you need extra cache, consider adding more X3D components.

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AthenasLight
Posting Freak
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10-14-2018, 05:05 PM
#9
What stands out is that the 5900X rarely outperforms the 5950X. There are occasional situations where it does, possibly due to cache per core differences, but it might also be linked to performance under high threading limits—where the 5900X ticks higher. If boosting cache per core helps the 5950X more often, then the 5900X should generally lag behind. This explanation seems unlikely.
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AthenasLight
10-14-2018, 05:05 PM #9

What stands out is that the 5900X rarely outperforms the 5950X. There are occasional situations where it does, possibly due to cache per core differences, but it might also be linked to performance under high threading limits—where the 5900X ticks higher. If boosting cache per core helps the 5950X more often, then the 5900X should generally lag behind. This explanation seems unlikely.

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CowieSpy135
Junior Member
15
10-14-2018, 05:05 PM
#10
The design allows up to eight cores in a Zen 3 CCD, whereas a reduced version might offer only six. Even if just six cores are heavily utilized on a 5950x... configuration, the L3 memory remains comparable to using eight cores. Variations arise mainly from how data is managed in the L2 cache, but overall it's negligible. The final L3 cache stays consistent across all workloads. A 33% boost per core in L3 would still have limited significance. The main benefit for X3D comes from a 200% increase in cache capacity, which isn't that substantial.
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CowieSpy135
10-14-2018, 05:05 PM #10

The design allows up to eight cores in a Zen 3 CCD, whereas a reduced version might offer only six. Even if just six cores are heavily utilized on a 5950x... configuration, the L3 memory remains comparable to using eight cores. Variations arise mainly from how data is managed in the L2 cache, but overall it's negligible. The final L3 cache stays consistent across all workloads. A 33% boost per core in L3 would still have limited significance. The main benefit for X3D comes from a 200% increase in cache capacity, which isn't that substantial.

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