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Tips for constructing a great gaming PC build

Tips for constructing a great gaming PC build

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jesus_xus
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03-04-2023, 01:31 AM
#11
On paste,
Do not get much bothered unless you are a competitive overclocker. The paste that comes with any cooler will work fine.
5800X is not a particularly hot chip, particular when gaming and not all of the cores will be heavily used.
On ram, buy an explicitly supported kit for your motherboard/cpu combo.
Look at the motherboard ram qvi list for kits that have been tested.
Or, go to a ram web site such as G.skil and check their support app for compatibility.
Ryzen depends on fast ram for performance. 3600 speed seems to be he sweet spot.
I don't know the difference between the flare and ripjaws series if the specs are identical.
Perhaps just marketing.
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jesus_xus
03-04-2023, 01:31 AM #11

On paste,
Do not get much bothered unless you are a competitive overclocker. The paste that comes with any cooler will work fine.
5800X is not a particularly hot chip, particular when gaming and not all of the cores will be heavily used.
On ram, buy an explicitly supported kit for your motherboard/cpu combo.
Look at the motherboard ram qvi list for kits that have been tested.
Or, go to a ram web site such as G.skil and check their support app for compatibility.
Ryzen depends on fast ram for performance. 3600 speed seems to be he sweet spot.
I don't know the difference between the flare and ripjaws series if the specs are identical.
Perhaps just marketing.

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Cableperson
Member
185
03-04-2023, 03:04 AM
#12
The inclusion of thermal paste isn't guaranteed with every cooler, as it depends on the manufacturer's specifications. The claim about 3200 MHz being the max speed for the 5700X is likely incorrect; actual limits vary by model and configuration.
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Cableperson
03-04-2023, 03:04 AM #12

The inclusion of thermal paste isn't guaranteed with every cooler, as it depends on the manufacturer's specifications. The claim about 3200 MHz being the max speed for the 5700X is likely incorrect; actual limits vary by model and configuration.

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Ender_kat22
Member
171
03-10-2023, 07:07 AM
#13
Thermal paste comes either ready to install on the cooler or requires a tube to apply by yourself. The 5700x may operate more efficiently than the 3200. Typically, 3600 CL16 offers the best balance between cost and performance.
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Ender_kat22
03-10-2023, 07:07 AM #13

Thermal paste comes either ready to install on the cooler or requires a tube to apply by yourself. The 5700x may operate more efficiently than the 3200. Typically, 3600 CL16 offers the best balance between cost and performance.

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KingChase12354
Junior Member
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03-10-2023, 12:46 PM
#14
Not incorrect. That 3200 represents the boot speed to the BIOS, allowing you to adjust settings for improved performance. Check the images from newegg for the cooler; it contains a TF7 paste tube: https://www.newegg.com/p/0VE-01P6-0...&ranSiteID=kXQk6.ivFEQ-F4vwOUKyvUaUKYEMR36ybw
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KingChase12354
03-10-2023, 12:46 PM #14

Not incorrect. That 3200 represents the boot speed to the BIOS, allowing you to adjust settings for improved performance. Check the images from newegg for the cooler; it contains a TF7 paste tube: https://www.newegg.com/p/0VE-01P6-0...&ranSiteID=kXQk6.ivFEQ-F4vwOUKyvUaUKYEMR36ybw

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Okunino
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03-10-2023, 06:28 PM
#15
This option is a bit pricier than your original setup, but it includes several improvements. The 5700X3D stands out as the top CPU in your budget, paired with a high-quality cooler I found. The motherboard offers all necessary components and allows for future expansion. You’ll get 32 GB of 3600MHz DDR4 memory at a reasonable price, along with a fast 1 TB Crucial P3 Plus drive (DRAMless). The 7900 GRE graphics card delivers strong performance for 1440p resolution. The Focus 2 case is a solid budget choice, and the Corsair 750W PSU fits well within your range.
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Okunino
03-10-2023, 06:28 PM #15

This option is a bit pricier than your original setup, but it includes several improvements. The 5700X3D stands out as the top CPU in your budget, paired with a high-quality cooler I found. The motherboard offers all necessary components and allows for future expansion. You’ll get 32 GB of 3600MHz DDR4 memory at a reasonable price, along with a fast 1 TB Crucial P3 Plus drive (DRAMless). The 7900 GRE graphics card delivers strong performance for 1440p resolution. The Focus 2 case is a solid budget choice, and the Corsair 750W PSU fits well within your range.

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ExagonHD
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03-12-2023, 02:54 AM
#16
Thank you for the explanation about the ram and the thermal paste. It would be nice if I upgraded to 3600 in that scenario. I wasn't aware the RX 7900 GRE is only slightly more costly than the RX 7800 XT. Is the 5700X not powerful enough to work well with that card? My main worry is that the 5700X3D adds a significant price increase compared to the 159,90€ for the 5700X.
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ExagonHD
03-12-2023, 02:54 AM #16

Thank you for the explanation about the ram and the thermal paste. It would be nice if I upgraded to 3600 in that scenario. I wasn't aware the RX 7900 GRE is only slightly more costly than the RX 7800 XT. Is the 5700X not powerful enough to work well with that card? My main worry is that the 5700X3D adds a significant price increase compared to the 159,90€ for the 5700X.

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MrShoe
Junior Member
47
03-16-2023, 01:51 PM
#17
Once upon a time, it was common to budget twice the cost of the CPU for the graphics card. Just because you have an AMD CPU doesn't mean an AMD GPU is better. Take the RTX4060-ti as an example—it runs slightly slower but matches the performance level of the 7800XT pulse.
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MrShoe
03-16-2023, 01:51 PM #17

Once upon a time, it was common to budget twice the cost of the CPU for the graphics card. Just because you have an AMD CPU doesn't mean an AMD GPU is better. Take the RTX4060-ti as an example—it runs slightly slower but matches the performance level of the 7800XT pulse.

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KingJjpr
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03-18-2023, 08:46 AM
#18
It really comes down to the titles. Many appreciate the 3d cache, which aids in handling low frame rates and reduces stuttering. Others rely more on GPU capabilities, and the cache offers minimal benefit. For my situation as a WoW player, using an x3d chip would be ideal since the game performs well with it. It's a CPU-intensive title with poor multicore support. In contrast, games like FFXIV don't see any performance gains from the 3d cache.
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KingJjpr
03-18-2023, 08:46 AM #18

It really comes down to the titles. Many appreciate the 3d cache, which aids in handling low frame rates and reduces stuttering. Others rely more on GPU capabilities, and the cache offers minimal benefit. For my situation as a WoW player, using an x3d chip would be ideal since the game performs well with it. It's a CPU-intensive title with poor multicore support. In contrast, games like FFXIV don't see any performance gains from the 3d cache.

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walmartmic
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03-22-2023, 06:06 AM
#19
Good feedback, I might be using more GPU power than CPU. I’ll keep going with AMD for the GPU at least, since the RX 7800 TX gets a lot of positive reviews. I could also be misunderstanding the chart, but it seems the 4060Ti is significantly lagging behind the RX 7800 TX in 1440P gaming. I plan to build an Intel setup for comparison, maybe combining the 13400F and RX 7800 TX. Any advice?
Thanks for the details about the 5700x3d. It’s helpful to know how much the x3d performance depends on the game. I occasionally play WoW but haven’t played FFXIV yet. My other favorites are Civilization 6, Stellaris, Guild Wars 2, Path of Exile, Eve Online, Black Desert, Fallout series, Elder Scrolls series and Overwatch. I’m also really interested in trying Baldur’s Gate 3 on my new PC, as my current one wouldn’t handle it.
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walmartmic
03-22-2023, 06:06 AM #19

Good feedback, I might be using more GPU power than CPU. I’ll keep going with AMD for the GPU at least, since the RX 7800 TX gets a lot of positive reviews. I could also be misunderstanding the chart, but it seems the 4060Ti is significantly lagging behind the RX 7800 TX in 1440P gaming. I plan to build an Intel setup for comparison, maybe combining the 13400F and RX 7800 TX. Any advice?
Thanks for the details about the 5700x3d. It’s helpful to know how much the x3d performance depends on the game. I occasionally play WoW but haven’t played FFXIV yet. My other favorites are Civilization 6, Stellaris, Guild Wars 2, Path of Exile, Eve Online, Black Desert, Fallout series, Elder Scrolls series and Overwatch. I’m also really interested in trying Baldur’s Gate 3 on my new PC, as my current one wouldn’t handle it.

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xanderzone317
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03-22-2023, 06:28 AM
#20
There is no such thing as going overboard on a GPU, as long as you have a CPU that can keep up, and a PSU that can handle it. FYI Baulder's Gate 3 likes x3d chips too. I personally would not buy any 13th or 14th gen Intel chip at this time, given the problems they are having right now with instability and degredation. Hence why my rig is still using a 12700k.
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xanderzone317
03-22-2023, 06:28 AM #20

There is no such thing as going overboard on a GPU, as long as you have a CPU that can keep up, and a PSU that can handle it. FYI Baulder's Gate 3 likes x3d chips too. I personally would not buy any 13th or 14th gen Intel chip at this time, given the problems they are having right now with instability and degredation. Hence why my rig is still using a 12700k.

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