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The 4.3GHz and 4.4GHz outcomes seem unusual...

The 4.3GHz and 4.4GHz outcomes seem unusual...

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henry1028
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10-05-2023, 01:18 AM
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4.3GHz worked well with automatic voltage, but at 4.4GHz the chip needed higher voltage. I configured it and everything was stable, though performance dropped significantly—Cinebench R20 scores fell by as much as 100 points! Is this normal or is there a problem? :I (did three runs at 20ms with similar results each time)
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henry1028
10-05-2023, 01:18 AM #1

4.3GHz worked well with automatic voltage, but at 4.4GHz the chip needed higher voltage. I configured it and everything was stable, though performance dropped significantly—Cinebench R20 scores fell by as much as 100 points! Is this normal or is there a problem? :I (did three runs at 20ms with similar results each time)

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sharksandfish
Junior Member
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10-07-2023, 04:58 AM
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4.4 lacks stability. It's straightforward—clocks are probably going down.
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sharksandfish
10-07-2023, 04:58 AM #2

4.4 lacks stability. It's straightforward—clocks are probably going down.

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nightshadow39
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10-11-2023, 02:20 PM
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It's unusual that raising the voltage stopped the failure, but maybe the board simply doesn't receive enough power and shuts down?
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nightshadow39
10-11-2023, 02:20 PM #3

It's unusual that raising the voltage stopped the failure, but maybe the board simply doesn't receive enough power and shuts down?

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Ludwis100
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10-11-2023, 07:57 PM
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The 5x5 chip probably owns the advantage here. In certain scenarios, a higher clock speed doesn’t always mean better performance. Intel’s Ryzen has a well-known rule: avoid running memory at speeds above 3733mhz unless it’s close to or exceeds 5000mhz. The issue stems from the limitations of finite clock cycles. That’s why 3600mhz is considered the optimal sweet spot for Ryzen. You might temporarily bypass this by pushing memory speeds beyond it, but you’ll notice a noticeable slowdown afterward.
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Ludwis100
10-11-2023, 07:57 PM #4

The 5x5 chip probably owns the advantage here. In certain scenarios, a higher clock speed doesn’t always mean better performance. Intel’s Ryzen has a well-known rule: avoid running memory at speeds above 3733mhz unless it’s close to or exceeds 5000mhz. The issue stems from the limitations of finite clock cycles. That’s why 3600mhz is considered the optimal sweet spot for Ryzen. You might temporarily bypass this by pushing memory speeds beyond it, but you’ll notice a noticeable slowdown afterward.

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XblueG4mer_PvP
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10-11-2023, 11:50 PM
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XblueG4mer_PvP
10-11-2023, 11:50 PM #5

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CandyBugz
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10-17-2023, 12:18 PM
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We hold contrasting details there. The value where infinity fabric transitions from x1 to x2 is 3733. Or so it used to be. It might have shifted.
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CandyBugz
10-17-2023, 12:18 PM #6

We hold contrasting details there. The value where infinity fabric transitions from x1 to x2 is 3733. Or so it used to be. It might have shifted.

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GetUSom
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10-17-2023, 09:04 PM
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GN evaluated 3800 CL 10 memory on a 3600 unit. It matched the performance of a 10600K in games and outperformed it during production.
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GetUSom
10-17-2023, 09:04 PM #7

GN evaluated 3800 CL 10 memory on a 3600 unit. It matched the performance of a 10600K in games and outperformed it during production.

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CrimsonNacho
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10-22-2023, 12:47 PM
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Watched that video about Nexus mods. The person discussed why the 10400 still feels slow despite optimizations, mentioning a $300 RAM setup. He noted it ran at 3200 cas 10 clocked down to 4000, which kept it within the 10400’s limits. He explained in detail how it works and speculated that clock speed might be the main factor, not the case count.
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CrimsonNacho
10-22-2023, 12:47 PM #8

Watched that video about Nexus mods. The person discussed why the 10400 still feels slow despite optimizations, mentioning a $300 RAM setup. He noted it ran at 3200 cas 10 clocked down to 4000, which kept it within the 10400’s limits. He explained in detail how it works and speculated that clock speed might be the main factor, not the case count.

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coolness2001
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10-22-2023, 01:33 PM
#9
If the CPU has more RAM than its specifications, it might influence the maximum overclock potential. The IMC could require higher voltage for stability compared to when using standard OC RAM. Replacing a 1866MHz kit with a 2133MHz one may mean the CPU needs increased voltage.
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coolness2001
10-22-2023, 01:33 PM #9

If the CPU has more RAM than its specifications, it might influence the maximum overclock potential. The IMC could require higher voltage for stability compared to when using standard OC RAM. Replacing a 1866MHz kit with a 2133MHz one may mean the CPU needs increased voltage.

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SjoerdMC
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10-25-2023, 08:52 PM
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What are you discussing? He's running an FX processor. All your talk about Zen and DDR4 doesn't apply here. Where are you at regarding v-core to reach 4.4ghz? Can we get some screenshots? CPU-Z memory and SPD tab needed. Also, the CPU tab, plus temps screen shots during load will be helpful. We'll aim to get your HT and NB at the right speeds too.
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SjoerdMC
10-25-2023, 08:52 PM #10

What are you discussing? He's running an FX processor. All your talk about Zen and DDR4 doesn't apply here. Where are you at regarding v-core to reach 4.4ghz? Can we get some screenshots? CPU-Z memory and SPD tab needed. Also, the CPU tab, plus temps screen shots during load will be helpful. We'll aim to get your HT and NB at the right speeds too.

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