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System experiencing crashes due to a new CPU.

System experiencing crashes due to a new CPU.

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MISSxDu04
Junior Member
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07-31-2022, 05:52 PM
#1
Hi
I had a weak sausage loaner CPU from a 12700T until I found what I needed—a 12700KF.
I updated my BIOS to 1813 and reset it to defaults, but I haven’t reinstalled Windows yet, which might be a factor.
What I did was enable XMP, allowing the full speed (7200MHz) of the RAM to run.
I’m experiencing random BSODs, even though I didn’t put the computer under heavy load. Running Prime95 and Furmark for about an hour didn’t seem worthwhile.
Regarding VRAM testing, all I see is a general increase in 3D and compute scores, but not a specific rise in VRAM.
I plan to install fresh Windows before diving deeper into the tests.
Just started Prime95—temperature spiked from 38°C to 90°C instantly, followed by BSOD.
🙁
Screen flickers and it rebooted.
Could this indicate my thermal paste is old or dry? Or is that normal for a 12700KF?
That’s disappointing.
Would you mind if I could feel the difference if I lowered the MHz to 6000?
Asus PRIME Z790-P WIFI, i7-12700K, g.skill Trident Z5 RGB DDR5-7200, Gigabyte RX 9070, ssdptqd-256g-1012, mz-vpw2560, cv1-8b256, ct256mx100ssd1, samsung 2tb ssd, Ironwolf 12Tb, Corsair RM750x, Musetex Y6, 9x Thermalright TL-C12C-S
dark rock 4 cpu cooler
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MISSxDu04
07-31-2022, 05:52 PM #1

Hi
I had a weak sausage loaner CPU from a 12700T until I found what I needed—a 12700KF.
I updated my BIOS to 1813 and reset it to defaults, but I haven’t reinstalled Windows yet, which might be a factor.
What I did was enable XMP, allowing the full speed (7200MHz) of the RAM to run.
I’m experiencing random BSODs, even though I didn’t put the computer under heavy load. Running Prime95 and Furmark for about an hour didn’t seem worthwhile.
Regarding VRAM testing, all I see is a general increase in 3D and compute scores, but not a specific rise in VRAM.
I plan to install fresh Windows before diving deeper into the tests.
Just started Prime95—temperature spiked from 38°C to 90°C instantly, followed by BSOD.
🙁
Screen flickers and it rebooted.
Could this indicate my thermal paste is old or dry? Or is that normal for a 12700KF?
That’s disappointing.
Would you mind if I could feel the difference if I lowered the MHz to 6000?
Asus PRIME Z790-P WIFI, i7-12700K, g.skill Trident Z5 RGB DDR5-7200, Gigabyte RX 9070, ssdptqd-256g-1012, mz-vpw2560, cv1-8b256, ct256mx100ssd1, samsung 2tb ssd, Ironwolf 12Tb, Corsair RM750x, Musetex Y6, 9x Thermalright TL-C12C-S
dark rock 4 cpu cooler

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XylixTv
Member
193
07-31-2022, 10:47 PM
#2
We suggest sharing your specifications within the discussion section. This approach is necessary because space-related specs may evolve, making earlier recommendations less applicable for you now.
I updated my BIOS version and the previous CPU model before the processor change.
For reference, please mention the BIOS version you were using and what you changed before the CPU upgrade.
If you haven’t replaced your motherboard yet, you likely don’t need to reinstall the operating system.
I began using prime95 right after the upgrade; the temperature spiked from 38°C to 90°C immediately, causing screen flickering and a reboot.
Understanding your cooling setup and the motherboard model will be important.
We should reset everything to factory settings.
Do you mean you cleared the CMOS? It would be best to unplug the power supply and monitor, then detach the CMOS battery, hold the power button for 30 seconds to remove any remaining charge, and reinsert it after about half an hour.
This could indicate that your thermal paste is outdated or dried out.
Have you applied a new thermal paste after swapping the CPU?
I only configured XMP, allowing the full RAM speed (7200MHz) to be used.
Maybe the memory controller is under strain—consider lowering it to DDR5-6000MHz and test again.
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XylixTv
07-31-2022, 10:47 PM #2

We suggest sharing your specifications within the discussion section. This approach is necessary because space-related specs may evolve, making earlier recommendations less applicable for you now.
I updated my BIOS version and the previous CPU model before the processor change.
For reference, please mention the BIOS version you were using and what you changed before the CPU upgrade.
If you haven’t replaced your motherboard yet, you likely don’t need to reinstall the operating system.
I began using prime95 right after the upgrade; the temperature spiked from 38°C to 90°C immediately, causing screen flickering and a reboot.
Understanding your cooling setup and the motherboard model will be important.
We should reset everything to factory settings.
Do you mean you cleared the CMOS? It would be best to unplug the power supply and monitor, then detach the CMOS battery, hold the power button for 30 seconds to remove any remaining charge, and reinsert it after about half an hour.
This could indicate that your thermal paste is outdated or dried out.
Have you applied a new thermal paste after swapping the CPU?
I only configured XMP, allowing the full RAM speed (7200MHz) to be used.
Maybe the memory controller is under strain—consider lowering it to DDR5-6000MHz and test again.

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leprincePOSAY
Junior Member
37
08-10-2022, 02:20 PM
#3
makes sense. and done.
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leprincePOSAY
08-10-2022, 02:20 PM #3

makes sense. and done.

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Adralym
Junior Member
30
08-15-2022, 05:35 PM
#4
I accidentally triggered ctrl+enter, causing a partial reply to appear. Please review the revised version I've prepared. Thank you!
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Adralym
08-15-2022, 05:35 PM #4

I accidentally triggered ctrl+enter, causing a partial reply to appear. Please review the revised version I've prepared. Thank you!

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Blureux
Posting Freak
797
08-16-2022, 01:15 AM
#5
Thanks! The new BIOS version 1813 is quite different. Mostly, I’ve been purchasing everything in small amounts over the past month. I plan to test it at 6000MHz. It didn’t seem like there were any real issues just by installing a new CPU that’s essentially the same but unlocked. I’ll still reinstall Windows for sure. I noticed the 30-second reset after a BIOS reset. I want to start testing everything from the default settings—4800MHz RAM—to make sure nothing is wrong. After swapping the CPUs, I collected the old paste because it was about two weeks ago and it looked brand new. Adding more paste didn’t seem sufficient. I’m assuming I can apply thermal paste around 50 times over the past 28 years, jumping from 40 to 90 in seconds feels quite a jump. I’ll remove the heatsink to check the quality and amount of grease. I’m using the Cooler Master Thermal Compound Kit Silver Cream, but I don’t have any more details about it. Mobo is an Asus PRIME Z790-P WIF CPU with 12700KF. Update: I just restarted the computer and waited on the login screen; it shut down quietly with no response from the mouse or keyboard. Ugh.
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Blureux
08-16-2022, 01:15 AM #5

Thanks! The new BIOS version 1813 is quite different. Mostly, I’ve been purchasing everything in small amounts over the past month. I plan to test it at 6000MHz. It didn’t seem like there were any real issues just by installing a new CPU that’s essentially the same but unlocked. I’ll still reinstall Windows for sure. I noticed the 30-second reset after a BIOS reset. I want to start testing everything from the default settings—4800MHz RAM—to make sure nothing is wrong. After swapping the CPUs, I collected the old paste because it was about two weeks ago and it looked brand new. Adding more paste didn’t seem sufficient. I’m assuming I can apply thermal paste around 50 times over the past 28 years, jumping from 40 to 90 in seconds feels quite a jump. I’ll remove the heatsink to check the quality and amount of grease. I’m using the Cooler Master Thermal Compound Kit Silver Cream, but I don’t have any more details about it. Mobo is an Asus PRIME Z790-P WIF CPU with 12700KF. Update: I just restarted the computer and waited on the login screen; it shut down quietly with no response from the mouse or keyboard. Ugh.

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gabrys0809
Member
69
08-18-2022, 10:33 AM
#6
A few notes:
The cooler is near its limit for cooling the unlocked processor when under stress. The BIOS might be running the CPU without a power cap, making the cooler inadequate—keeping the Intel 190W setting would help.
Removing the cooler and CPU completely before reapplying it could be beneficial if you're doing it again.
DDR5-7200 approaches the memory controller limits of ADL and may need manual adjustment (running at 4800 could fix this).
OCCT offers some video memory tests, but I'm uncertain about its full coverage.
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gabrys0809
08-18-2022, 10:33 AM #6

A few notes:
The cooler is near its limit for cooling the unlocked processor when under stress. The BIOS might be running the CPU without a power cap, making the cooler inadequate—keeping the Intel 190W setting would help.
Removing the cooler and CPU completely before reapplying it could be beneficial if you're doing it again.
DDR5-7200 approaches the memory controller limits of ADL and may need manual adjustment (running at 4800 could fix this).
OCCT offers some video memory tests, but I'm uncertain about its full coverage.

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SAGIV5
Junior Member
3
08-21-2022, 02:26 AM
#7
after restarting the BIOS again and resetting everything to defaults, the system didn't crash at all. next, I plan to adjust the memory to 6000 and see how it performs. I'm also considering a new cooler—your Assassin 140 looks great.
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SAGIV5
08-21-2022, 02:26 AM #7

after restarting the BIOS again and resetting everything to defaults, the system didn't crash at all. next, I plan to adjust the memory to 6000 and see how it performs. I'm also considering a new cooler—your Assassin 140 looks great.

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CakeCraftLP_
Junior Member
7
08-28-2022, 06:56 AM
#8
It's great to hear the stability is holding up well, and I'm happy with the PA140—it was definitely the top choice in terms of value for around $40.
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CakeCraftLP_
08-28-2022, 06:56 AM #8

It's great to hear the stability is holding up well, and I'm happy with the PA140—it was definitely the top choice in terms of value for around $40.

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nBernas
Junior Member
19
08-28-2022, 10:12 PM
#9
it's incredibly affordable compared to its supposed quality, I bought the Dark Rock 2-3 years ago for almost the same price. it's strange that now DR4 is more costly than PA140.
sadly, the 140mm model doesn't come in a digital or RGB version. however, I really like the "Peerless Assassin 120 Digital ARGB Black," though some people think it might be a bit too loud. i've seen reviews mentioning 245 and 265 dpi, so maybe it's fine.
i keep checking out options. with an aquarium in my case, having advanced data or RGB features would be perfect.
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nBernas
08-28-2022, 10:12 PM #9

it's incredibly affordable compared to its supposed quality, I bought the Dark Rock 2-3 years ago for almost the same price. it's strange that now DR4 is more costly than PA140.
sadly, the 140mm model doesn't come in a digital or RGB version. however, I really like the "Peerless Assassin 120 Digital ARGB Black," though some people think it might be a bit too loud. i've seen reviews mentioning 245 and 265 dpi, so maybe it's fine.
i keep checking out options. with an aquarium in my case, having advanced data or RGB features would be perfect.

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ben_dragon
Senior Member
259
09-11-2022, 11:41 PM
#10
i haven't purchased a brand new cooler before, so i'm wondering if it comes with thermal paste.
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ben_dragon
09-11-2022, 11:41 PM #10

i haven't purchased a brand new cooler before, so i'm wondering if it comes with thermal paste.

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