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GamerRick_
Member
64
03-26-2019, 10:20 AM
#1
I've been working on PCs, upgrading and fixing them since 1994 (old enough). Right now, my home setup includes an AMD Ryzen 1700, 1600X, 2700X, 3600X, and a 3900X (my work machine). I've dealt with CPUs and HSFs from the 486DX through Cyrix, AMD-DX4, mini fans, AIO coolers, and various aftermarket HSFs like Noctua, Scythe, Cooler Master, Artic Cooling, etc. Recently, my Ryzen 9 3900X was throttling on the stock CPU for two months, so I planned to swap out the Wraith HSF for a Corsair AIO loop. The boost frequency was stuck between 4.18 and 4.2 GHz. I opened the HSF release, slightly turned it, and tried to break the thermal connection so the CPU wouldn’t fall out. The picture shows where the CPU was attempting to sever its bond with the HSF. After releasing the other side and lifting, the CPU stayed attached, shifting two pins. It won’t fit back in anymore. I’ve attached photos of the chip on the HSF and a side view confirming it’s stuck. The bottom shows the pins aren’t aligned anymore because the HSF didn’t release it. Lastly, the photo with the serial number proves the CPU is firmly glued. If the AM4 socket had a better retention system like Intel does, they’d prevent such issues. I followed all the steps correctly, but now I’m left frustrated. AMD seems unreliable. After three years of support only for CPUs, cards, and peripherals, this experience is really upsetting.
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GamerRick_
03-26-2019, 10:20 AM #1

I've been working on PCs, upgrading and fixing them since 1994 (old enough). Right now, my home setup includes an AMD Ryzen 1700, 1600X, 2700X, 3600X, and a 3900X (my work machine). I've dealt with CPUs and HSFs from the 486DX through Cyrix, AMD-DX4, mini fans, AIO coolers, and various aftermarket HSFs like Noctua, Scythe, Cooler Master, Artic Cooling, etc. Recently, my Ryzen 9 3900X was throttling on the stock CPU for two months, so I planned to swap out the Wraith HSF for a Corsair AIO loop. The boost frequency was stuck between 4.18 and 4.2 GHz. I opened the HSF release, slightly turned it, and tried to break the thermal connection so the CPU wouldn’t fall out. The picture shows where the CPU was attempting to sever its bond with the HSF. After releasing the other side and lifting, the CPU stayed attached, shifting two pins. It won’t fit back in anymore. I’ve attached photos of the chip on the HSF and a side view confirming it’s stuck. The bottom shows the pins aren’t aligned anymore because the HSF didn’t release it. Lastly, the photo with the serial number proves the CPU is firmly glued. If the AM4 socket had a better retention system like Intel does, they’d prevent such issues. I followed all the steps correctly, but now I’m left frustrated. AMD seems unreliable. After three years of support only for CPUs, cards, and peripherals, this experience is really upsetting.

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jambalaia93
Member
224
03-27-2019, 01:05 PM
#2
It's all about people. Way too many misplaced containers.
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jambalaia93
03-27-2019, 01:05 PM #2

It's all about people. Way too many misplaced containers.

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64
04-03-2019, 04:56 PM
#3
It's your responsibility, not AMD's.
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Classy_Mexican
04-03-2019, 04:56 PM #3

It's your responsibility, not AMD's.

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pop2213
Member
61
04-03-2019, 05:43 PM
#4
You'd need a lot of time to reposition every pin... It's important to handle it carefully, but there aren't many options. Personally, I think AMD is choosing to simplify their retention system and only has rare instances of this affecting other users. Buying cheap usually means getting a better deal. That's my take on their approach, apart from the TR4 model which wouldn't encounter the same issue.
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pop2213
04-03-2019, 05:43 PM #4

You'd need a lot of time to reposition every pin... It's important to handle it carefully, but there aren't many options. Personally, I think AMD is choosing to simplify their retention system and only has rare instances of this affecting other users. Buying cheap usually means getting a better deal. That's my take on their approach, apart from the TR4 model which wouldn't encounter the same issue.

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AJallstar99
Member
220
04-21-2019, 08:51 PM
#5
The issue arises because the thermal paste functions like a bond between the CPU and heat spreader in this scenario
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AJallstar99
04-21-2019, 08:51 PM #5

The issue arises because the thermal paste functions like a bond between the CPU and heat spreader in this scenario

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PinkaminaPie
Member
113
04-22-2019, 04:37 AM
#6
Your mistake wasn't AMD's. Be more cautious. Also, the CPU is no longer available.
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PinkaminaPie
04-22-2019, 04:37 AM #6

Your mistake wasn't AMD's. Be more cautious. Also, the CPU is no longer available.

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beef_roast
Junior Member
11
04-29-2019, 02:42 AM
#7
Absolutely, I completely understand your point, particularly regarding the consistency of some pastes. It would be better to apply stronger pressure on the pins in the socket to avoid pulling out the CPU during these tough situations. Improved thermal paste could help resolve this issue.
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beef_roast
04-29-2019, 02:42 AM #7

Absolutely, I completely understand your point, particularly regarding the consistency of some pastes. It would be better to apply stronger pressure on the pins in the socket to avoid pulling out the CPU during these tough situations. Improved thermal paste could help resolve this issue.

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xAdriLCT
Senior Member
702
05-03-2019, 03:42 AM
#8
I totally get that the socket’s retention system is pretty poor. It’s frustrating to blame the user for handling it incorrectly, but ultimately you make the choice when purchasing. Still, keep in mind—design flaws matter. Before taking it down, warm the paste by booting up the PC with the heatsink/coldplate. Then unscrew or loosen the cooler, twist it gently, and tilt it slightly to free the CPU. You might also try bending the pins back, though that’s quite tricky.
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xAdriLCT
05-03-2019, 03:42 AM #8

I totally get that the socket’s retention system is pretty poor. It’s frustrating to blame the user for handling it incorrectly, but ultimately you make the choice when purchasing. Still, keep in mind—design flaws matter. Before taking it down, warm the paste by booting up the PC with the heatsink/coldplate. Then unscrew or loosen the cooler, twist it gently, and tilt it slightly to free the CPU. You might also try bending the pins back, though that’s quite tricky.

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deboer121
Member
55
05-13-2019, 10:49 AM
#9
For users of the AMD Wraith cooler, the problem I encountered was that after releasing the retention side and then moving the HSF to detach from the CPU, you still needed to slightly adjust the HSF on the opposite side to let the underside hook release. There’s no way to confirm whether the CPU remained connected to the HSF before that action.
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deboer121
05-13-2019, 10:49 AM #9

For users of the AMD Wraith cooler, the problem I encountered was that after releasing the retention side and then moving the HSF to detach from the CPU, you still needed to slightly adjust the HSF on the opposite side to let the underside hook release. There’s no way to confirm whether the CPU remained connected to the HSF before that action.

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C4rol
Junior Member
10
05-15-2019, 09:58 PM
#10
twisting or sliding doesn’t force the CPU out of its socket, keeping the pins intact. When you pull it out, the pins remain safe. The pins get bent only when you forcefully remove them, then they might hit the socket or something during the shock. Interestingly, someone managed to pull their CPU out this way, reinsert it without unlocking the socket or taking off the motherboard—pins stayed straight.
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C4rol
05-15-2019, 09:58 PM #10

twisting or sliding doesn’t force the CPU out of its socket, keeping the pins intact. When you pull it out, the pins remain safe. The pins get bent only when you forcefully remove them, then they might hit the socket or something during the shock. Interestingly, someone managed to pull their CPU out this way, reinsert it without unlocking the socket or taking off the motherboard—pins stayed straight.

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