Ryzen 5 1600 OC and lag issues
Ryzen 5 1600 OC and lag issues
I just got this Ryzen 5 in. it’s having problems with my mouse lagging, sometimes freezing, and I often see the CPU at 80%+ load without any clear reason...
I decided to overclock it to 3.7 ghz (B350 Tomahawk). It reaches peaks around 3.66, but that’s not the main issue—it’s that it throttles down to 1.5 when not under heavy load (5-10%). I didn’t find a way to disable any kind of boost setting, which I thought was the cause. I’m not comfortable adjusting voltages. So is it just not stable at 3.7? Or are there other reasons behind these problems?
Additionally, I’m experiencing huge and consistent stuttering in my BIOS, which seems unrelated to the CPU.
Lastly, my system takes 40 seconds to boot from the moment I press the power button until the window appears. With a fresh install, SSD, it only takes 20 seconds to start up and show the POST screen...
Any advice would be really helpful. I’m new to AMD and PC building overall.
The sustained temperature was 3.7 for 15 tests. I didn’t want it to keep going because the temperatures reached 65°C, which is the limit for non-X models of this chip. After disabling all safety features, I worried it might not downclock and could cause damage. Now I understand it can maintain 3.7 stably, and the next step is updating the BIOS to see if Cool'n quiet is the cause of the throttling.
I’ve heard two different temperature readings, and I’m unsure which is accurate. Some say 95°C for X versions, while others claim 75°C for non-X versions. This situation is becoming more confusing, and many will debate what I’m about to say.
I just got this Ryzen 5 in. it’s having problems with my mouse lagging, sometimes freezing, and the CPU often hits 80%+ load without any clear reason...
To fix this, I tried overclocking it to 3.7 ghz (B350 Tomahawk). It reaches peaks around 3.66, but that’s not the main problem—it’s throttling down to 1.5 when not under heavy load (5-10%). I didn’t find a way to disable any kind of boost setting, which I thought was the cause. I’m not comfortable adjusting voltages. So is it just not stable at that speed? Or are there other reasons behind these issues?
Additionally, I’m experiencing severe and consistent stuttering in my BIOS, which seems unrelated to the CPU itself.
Lastly, my system takes 40 seconds to boot from the moment I press the button until the window appears. With a fresh install, SSD, it only takes 20 seconds to start up and show the POST screen.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I’m new to the AMD platform and PC building in general.
First things first—has your BIOS been updated? The long boot and post times suggest these issues have been resolved with a BIOS update. (Don’t flash the BIOS while overclocking, especially if it’s unstable.)
Second, what cooler are you using?
Based on what you’re describing, running at 3.7ghz isn’t stable at stock voltages. It would help to know your RAM type and its speed settings too.
I suspect the CPU isn’t throttling—it’s likely just power-saving features that are active in idle mode, reducing speed and voltage as intended. These options are in the Overclocking menu: disable Core Performance Boost, then go to CPU Features, turn off C6 and AMD Cool & Quiet, and it should stop.
A quick test to check stability is to download this link:
http://www.techspot.com/downloads/4965-i...ntest.html
Set it for 50 passes, standard settings, and it runs in about 10 minutes. It will quickly tell you if your CPU is stable or not. Also, keep an eye on temperatures—if you see a black screen, it’s a sign of instant crash, indicating extreme instability with the overclock.
My BIOS hasn't been updated since March; I'm holding off because my flash drive is quite unstable. If it fails during an update, everything could go wrong and I'd have to replace the board entirely.
I'm using the Spire stock cooler (95 TDP, not the 65 TDP version).
My RAM is Corsair vengeance LPX @2400.
I'm currently heading over to my BIOS to check for the items you mentioned.
You should update the BIOS as soon as possible—these early versions are mostly beta. Early adopters of RyZen are again mainly beta testers, and the updates address many issues. Just flash the latest BIOS, which includes all previous fixes. For your model (15), you can download it here:
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/...#down-bios
I recommend using a USB stick and flashing it directly from within the BIOS with M-Flash. Avoid using Windows-based tools, as many new boards have been destroyed that way.
The Spire cooler is a solid choice—it supports overclocks and slight voltage boosts. I wouldn't increase CPU voltage too much on this unit; just keep an eye on temperatures during stress tests—this will tell you if the cooler is handling it.
I will refresh the bios right away, leaving the voltage untouched since I've noticed people achieving 3.8 or even 3.9 with this CPU (clearly a silicon lottery). I aim to test everything before considering higher voltage settings.
I discovered Core performance boost and C6, which I turned off, leading to this result: http://i.imgur.com/6bSrLrP.png
Yet I couldn't locate the AMD cool'n quiet feature despite being in advanced and expert OC mode. Is it possible "Downcore control" is active? Any way to disable it?
I will refresh the bios quickly, avoiding changes to the voltage since I've observed users reaching 3.8 or even 3.9 with this CPU and a B350 (this is clearly silicon variation). I aim to test all options before considering higher voltage settings.
I discovered Core performance boost and C6, which I turned off, leading to the following result:
http://i.imgur.com/6bSrLrP.png
Yet I wasn't able to locate an AMD cool'n quiet setting, even though I'm using advanced mode and expert OC settings. Is this related to "Downcore control"? Is there a way to disable it?
No, it's not downcore control—it's about disabling cores on the CPU, which is in the same menu as C6 State. However, since you're running an older BIOS, this feature might not be available yet until newer versions are released.
Also, what performance mode are you using in Windows?
The device maintained a stable 3.7 for 15 tests. I hesitated to let it run longer because temperatures reached 65°C, which is the threshold for non-X models of this chip. After disabling all safety features, I worried it might not downclock and cause damage. Now I understand it can reliably hold 3.7, so the next step is updating the BIOS and checking if Cool'n quiet affects throttling.
The sustained temperature was 3.7 degrees for 15 tests. The decision not to proceed was due to temperatures reaching 65°C, which is the threshold for non-X models of this chip. After disabling all safety features, there was concern it might not downclock and cause damage. Now it's clear it can maintain a stable 3.7 temperature; the next step is updating the BIOS to check if Cool'n Quiet affects throttling. I've heard two different temperature readings—some say 95°C for X versions, others 75°C for non-X. This becomes complicated because the X versions have a 95°C limit with a +20°C offset, making 75°C plausible. However, I believe anything above 75°C triggers throttling. Even with disabled bios safety features, I've personally tested on my non-X chip with a Wraith cooler, and it stays under 59°C during stress tests. Custom watercooling is working well for me. Regarding the Windows power plan, I suspect it's not causing throttling but rather reducing performance during idle states.
Well, today I realized just how incredibly foolish Microsoft is. WHY would they include a balanced power plan on a desktop? I've used power plans before with my laptop, but I never thought they'd be available for desktops—though I guess that's just common sense. Anyway, I switched it to high performance and it's much better now; it still drops to 3.1, but I think the BIOS update will fix that. Thanks a lot, man. This was really frustrating. Games were dropping to 20-30 frames per second for no reason, but now everything is working properly.