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Review of Power Usage When Using Ryzen Master (3700X)

Review of Power Usage When Using Ryzen Master (3700X)

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davachio
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11-17-2019, 03:34 AM
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I've recently reinstalled Ryzen Master after using it before. Before the latest install, I had my CPU intentionally underclocked in the BIOS to 3.75Ghz @1.1VCC (ROG Strix B550A). HWinfo indicated power usage around 70W during full load. Initially, Ryzen Master showed lower figures than HWinfo, likely because it only monitored actual cores rather than all rails. I've attempted further underclocking to reduce power consumption during long intensive tasks, but once I adjusted settings in Ryzen Master (fastest two cores at 3.6Ghz, others at 2.6Ghz, VCC 1.05V), HWinfo spiked to nearly 100W! Ryzen Master also reported power draw far exceeding my earlier measurements at higher configurations. Anyone have suggestions? I'm looking for a way to enable an Eco-Mode, but all manual tweaks seem to waste energy. P.S. Avoid manual settings—consider using PBO and gradually lowering PPT and clocks. Power consumption should stabilize soon. Edited January 22, 2023 by Big Farmer
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davachio
11-17-2019, 03:34 AM #1

I've recently reinstalled Ryzen Master after using it before. Before the latest install, I had my CPU intentionally underclocked in the BIOS to 3.75Ghz @1.1VCC (ROG Strix B550A). HWinfo indicated power usage around 70W during full load. Initially, Ryzen Master showed lower figures than HWinfo, likely because it only monitored actual cores rather than all rails. I've attempted further underclocking to reduce power consumption during long intensive tasks, but once I adjusted settings in Ryzen Master (fastest two cores at 3.6Ghz, others at 2.6Ghz, VCC 1.05V), HWinfo spiked to nearly 100W! Ryzen Master also reported power draw far exceeding my earlier measurements at higher configurations. Anyone have suggestions? I'm looking for a way to enable an Eco-Mode, but all manual tweaks seem to waste energy. P.S. Avoid manual settings—consider using PBO and gradually lowering PPT and clocks. Power consumption should stabilize soon. Edited January 22, 2023 by Big Farmer

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RainbowCrazy
Member
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11-18-2019, 11:07 PM
#2
Consider checking power usage directly at the outlet, rather than depending on software that may provide inaccurate data.
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RainbowCrazy
11-18-2019, 11:07 PM #2

Consider checking power usage directly at the outlet, rather than depending on software that may provide inaccurate data.

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CooKonut
Member
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11-21-2019, 03:51 PM
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Well first I don't have anything I could use to measure, and for now I'm trying to reduce CPU consumption alone without GPU and other things. Anyways, do you know why Ryzen Master exceeds TDC as soon as I apply ANY clock speeds, even if they're lower than base?
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CooKonut
11-21-2019, 03:51 PM #3

Well first I don't have anything I could use to measure, and for now I'm trying to reduce CPU consumption alone without GPU and other things. Anyways, do you know why Ryzen Master exceeds TDC as soon as I apply ANY clock speeds, even if they're lower than base?

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Hyper_B0Y
Member
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11-21-2019, 09:22 PM
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I won't accept those figures without question, particularly when they don't match reality. That's why I recommend checking measurements against the wall. Likely there are budget-friendly ways to gauge wall power use, which could also work for other devices. It seems you're focused on saving energy.
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Hyper_B0Y
11-21-2019, 09:22 PM #4

I won't accept those figures without question, particularly when they don't match reality. That's why I recommend checking measurements against the wall. Likely there are budget-friendly ways to gauge wall power use, which could also work for other devices. It seems you're focused on saving energy.

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Benny_Boy679
Member
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11-29-2019, 12:22 PM
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I’ll evaluate purchasing that option, and definitely I’m focused on energy efficiency. Yes, I’ll configure my system so top-tier components run at 55 FPS only when it helps cut power consumption by 5W. No assistance required.
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Benny_Boy679
11-29-2019, 12:22 PM #5

I’ll evaluate purchasing that option, and definitely I’m focused on energy efficiency. Yes, I’ll configure my system so top-tier components run at 55 FPS only when it helps cut power consumption by 5W. No assistance required.

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xJustin_PvP
Junior Member
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11-29-2019, 12:38 PM
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Great effort in cutting down your electricity costs. I built my PC considering energy use, though I didn’t go into overclocking or adjusting voltage.
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xJustin_PvP
11-29-2019, 12:38 PM #6

Great effort in cutting down your electricity costs. I built my PC considering energy use, though I didn’t go into overclocking or adjusting voltage.

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Servus_TV
Junior Member
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11-29-2019, 09:12 PM
#7
You're seeing around 225W draw even when idle, but your estimates show it's only costing you about $1 per month. That happens because the device runs for 12–14 hours a day in sleep mode, using no power then.
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Servus_TV
11-29-2019, 09:12 PM #7

You're seeing around 225W draw even when idle, but your estimates show it's only costing you about $1 per month. That happens because the device runs for 12–14 hours a day in sleep mode, using no power then.

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Flamelash65
Junior Member
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12-05-2019, 10:10 AM
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The power usage will depend on the CPU's requirements plus the AC to DC conversion in the power source, efficiency losses from conversion and heat, plus heat escaping through the motherboard. Ryzen Master will just record the CPU's wattage independently.
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Flamelash65
12-05-2019, 10:10 AM #8

The power usage will depend on the CPU's requirements plus the AC to DC conversion in the power source, efficiency losses from conversion and heat, plus heat escaping through the motherboard. Ryzen Master will just record the CPU's wattage independently.

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Hoewls
Member
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12-05-2019, 11:07 AM
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They prioritize minimal energy consumption and understand the real impact. Comparing before and after provides clearer insights than any tool claims. Or should I suggest questioning whether all available software truly delivers accurate results?
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Hoewls
12-05-2019, 11:07 AM #9

They prioritize minimal energy consumption and understand the real impact. Comparing before and after provides clearer insights than any tool claims. Or should I suggest questioning whether all available software truly delivers accurate results?

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PijugoElNoble
Junior Member
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12-06-2019, 10:21 AM
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I'm not suggesting depend solely on software reports, but Ryzen Master is probably the most precise tool you'll get for a Ryzen chip. HWinfo64 comes next, and honestly, let's stop talking about hardware monitors altogether. You need to be confident—use a good quality multimeter (like Fluke) and begin testing the motherboard and power cables. Understanding your process is essential. PPT represents overall CPU power consumption, calculated from core power plus SoC power. Adding PPT to a lower value restricts the CPU's wattage usage. This also affects the PBO algorithm and frequency boost settings.
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PijugoElNoble
12-06-2019, 10:21 AM #10

I'm not suggesting depend solely on software reports, but Ryzen Master is probably the most precise tool you'll get for a Ryzen chip. HWinfo64 comes next, and honestly, let's stop talking about hardware monitors altogether. You need to be confident—use a good quality multimeter (like Fluke) and begin testing the motherboard and power cables. Understanding your process is essential. PPT represents overall CPU power consumption, calculated from core power plus SoC power. Adding PPT to a lower value restricts the CPU's wattage usage. This also affects the PBO algorithm and frequency boost settings.