F5F Stay Refreshed Hardware Desktop Overclocking and features of the latest DDR4 RAM modules.

Overclocking and features of the latest DDR4 RAM modules.

Overclocking and features of the latest DDR4 RAM modules.

Pages (3): Previous 1 2 3 Next
G
GreenScale_IV
Member
51
06-23-2016, 12:03 AM
#11
It's worth noting that 16Gb can be sold in 8GB modules, which could be handy for experimenting with cool ICS without spending too much. A dual-rank 1RX16 would likely be equivalent to a single-rank 1RX8. Regarding weight, dual-rank 1RX16 is probably lighter than a single-rank 1RX8 on the IMC.
G
GreenScale_IV
06-23-2016, 12:03 AM #11

It's worth noting that 16Gb can be sold in 8GB modules, which could be handy for experimenting with cool ICS without spending too much. A dual-rank 1RX16 would likely be equivalent to a single-rank 1RX8. Regarding weight, dual-rank 1RX16 is probably lighter than a single-rank 1RX8 on the IMC.

F
fiskmasen05
Member
62
07-06-2016, 06:14 PM
#12
Search them carefully—they're hard to locate because they focus on saving costs, and 16Gb ICs haven't dropped low enough to justify DIMMs until recently. You'll mostly stick to desktop RAM; since 8GB sticks at 1Rx8 are already affordable and work fine, you're usually just swapping to SODIMMs. Then you'll need adapters to connect DIMM to SODIMM, which usually results in a less optimal setup. I think the performance will be similar to 1Rx8 but at a higher price than 8GB sticks. It will still put extra strain on the memory controller, just like 2Rx8, but won't offer much improvement.
F
fiskmasen05
07-06-2016, 06:14 PM #12

Search them carefully—they're hard to locate because they focus on saving costs, and 16Gb ICs haven't dropped low enough to justify DIMMs until recently. You'll mostly stick to desktop RAM; since 8GB sticks at 1Rx8 are already affordable and work fine, you're usually just swapping to SODIMMs. Then you'll need adapters to connect DIMM to SODIMM, which usually results in a less optimal setup. I think the performance will be similar to 1Rx8 but at a higher price than 8GB sticks. It will still put extra strain on the memory controller, just like 2Rx8, but won't offer much improvement.

F
fishy37
Member
131
07-06-2016, 08:10 PM
#13
In technical terms, a dual rank 1RX16 functions as a 2RX16, a configuration that existed during the DDR2 era.
F
fishy37
07-06-2016, 08:10 PM #13

In technical terms, a dual rank 1RX16 functions as a 2RX16, a configuration that existed during the DDR2 era.

F
Freakiiianyx3
Senior Member
694
07-07-2016, 04:09 PM
#14
Uncertain about the details. I'm viewing a cart with two 8GB Patriot Signature drives. The exact IC isn't clear, but they seem to be showing strong interest. I don't think more than this quantity is necessary, and I'm curious about performance comparisons with 32GB options.
F
Freakiiianyx3
07-07-2016, 04:09 PM #14

Uncertain about the details. I'm viewing a cart with two 8GB Patriot Signature drives. The exact IC isn't clear, but they seem to be showing strong interest. I don't think more than this quantity is necessary, and I'm curious about performance comparisons with 32GB options.

T
TiemDiamond
Member
114
07-08-2016, 09:07 AM
#15
I'm still trying to understand this setup. My extreme dark DDR2 stays in a 2RX8 + 1RX8 setup and still manages 1520, mostly because the ASUS P5Q isn't failing this time. The actual performance setting 1470 7-9-6-9 gives me about 10,400 reads on the AIDA chip, which is hard to compare to other DDR2 models. I think it might lose to better DIMM options, especially since the timing and D9 specs are very similar. Changing to a 5-5-5-15 pattern instead of 7-9-6-9 could affect things, but it's not clear how much. Cramming 2.6V into the EXPERIENCE chip is pretty wild, though it works fine. For something cheaper, a bare PCB on eBay seems like the best bet right now—especially if you want something specific rather than a random part.
T
TiemDiamond
07-08-2016, 09:07 AM #15

I'm still trying to understand this setup. My extreme dark DDR2 stays in a 2RX8 + 1RX8 setup and still manages 1520, mostly because the ASUS P5Q isn't failing this time. The actual performance setting 1470 7-9-6-9 gives me about 10,400 reads on the AIDA chip, which is hard to compare to other DDR2 models. I think it might lose to better DIMM options, especially since the timing and D9 specs are very similar. Changing to a 5-5-5-15 pattern instead of 7-9-6-9 could affect things, but it's not clear how much. Cramming 2.6V into the EXPERIENCE chip is pretty wild, though it works fine. For something cheaper, a bare PCB on eBay seems like the best bet right now—especially if you want something specific rather than a random part.

C
CytrexLP
Junior Member
13
07-19-2016, 03:40 AM
#16
It performs worse than many DDR4 variants. With 1Rx16 modules, it carries the full latency of DDR5 without the bank memory benefits. For genuine DDR5 performance, you should opt for 2x16GB modules.
C
CytrexLP
07-19-2016, 03:40 AM #16

It performs worse than many DDR4 variants. With 1Rx16 modules, it carries the full latency of DDR5 without the bank memory benefits. For genuine DDR5 performance, you should opt for 2x16GB modules.

B
backdoc01
Member
170
07-19-2016, 10:43 AM
#17
I've been trying to explain this for about half an hour now. Most people focusing on DDR5 prices aren't really putting in the effort or want top-tier performance. You can assemble a solid DDR5 setup at the same cost as DDR4—just need smart buying habits. A 32GB unit works well for streaming, and a 16GB AM4 model fits gamers perfectly. He's actually handling all sorts of tasks on that rig, to be honest.
B
backdoc01
07-19-2016, 10:43 AM #17

I've been trying to explain this for about half an hour now. Most people focusing on DDR5 prices aren't really putting in the effort or want top-tier performance. You can assemble a solid DDR5 setup at the same cost as DDR4—just need smart buying habits. A 32GB unit works well for streaming, and a 16GB AM4 model fits gamers perfectly. He's actually handling all sorts of tasks on that rig, to be honest.

R
RezarkYT
Member
64
07-25-2016, 12:57 PM
#18
I'm not what I said earlier. I plan to measure their performance. Latency isn't the only factor. Those figures aren't very impressive. I could reduce DRam latency by just speeding up the CPU. That's the simpler side of it. I want to see if I can achieve 6400mt/s bandwidth from them. But using the DDR5 board means I'll end up with pricier equipment down the line, compared to starting fresh. Upgrading the RAM seems like a better way forward. Also, I might damage them. I've had a tendency to break things before... hehe. Plus the Z690 supports 13th gen on DDR5 boards. I'm updating the BIOS!
R
RezarkYT
07-25-2016, 12:57 PM #18

I'm not what I said earlier. I plan to measure their performance. Latency isn't the only factor. Those figures aren't very impressive. I could reduce DRam latency by just speeding up the CPU. That's the simpler side of it. I want to see if I can achieve 6400mt/s bandwidth from them. But using the DDR5 board means I'll end up with pricier equipment down the line, compared to starting fresh. Upgrading the RAM seems like a better way forward. Also, I might damage them. I've had a tendency to break things before... hehe. Plus the Z690 supports 13th gen on DDR5 boards. I'm updating the BIOS!

N
NaiROolF
Senior Member
685
07-27-2016, 11:36 AM
#19
They probably won’t perform well at that speed. 5600MHz is standard for most RAM ICs, and they won’t gain much advantage over that. For OEM options, I wouldn’t expect much improvement either. Have you checked the link? At that frequency and timing, it offers about 25% less bandwidth and 25% higher latency compared to a standard 2x16GB configuration. A 4800MHz CL40 in a proper 1Rx8 setup will run slightly better than a 5600MHz CL40 in a 1Rx16 configuration. I’d say once DDR5 becomes practical, you’ll likely need a new board and CPU instead. You’re making your money, but a cheaper DDR4 solution will give you better results right now.
N
NaiROolF
07-27-2016, 11:36 AM #19

They probably won’t perform well at that speed. 5600MHz is standard for most RAM ICs, and they won’t gain much advantage over that. For OEM options, I wouldn’t expect much improvement either. Have you checked the link? At that frequency and timing, it offers about 25% less bandwidth and 25% higher latency compared to a standard 2x16GB configuration. A 4800MHz CL40 in a proper 1Rx8 setup will run slightly better than a 5600MHz CL40 in a 1Rx16 configuration. I’d say once DDR5 becomes practical, you’ll likely need a new board and CPU instead. You’re making your money, but a cheaper DDR4 solution will give you better results right now.

Q
quissama
Junior Member
12
07-29-2016, 08:52 PM
#20
Fast kits often come with drawbacks when bare PCBs share the same IC and clock specs, especially in budget builds. Here in India, affordable 8Gb SD cards with similar features are available for around $20-$25, while premium kits cost $70 or more. These cheaper options often run faster and outperform the high-end ones, which explains why I can easily beat out expensive models like the 4600 Pro DJR at a fraction of the cost. Of course, some exceptions exist—like the Viper 4400—which can still compete if you find a capable build. The main challenge remains locating suitable bins for bare PCBs, which is either slow or nearly impossible.
Q
quissama
07-29-2016, 08:52 PM #20

Fast kits often come with drawbacks when bare PCBs share the same IC and clock specs, especially in budget builds. Here in India, affordable 8Gb SD cards with similar features are available for around $20-$25, while premium kits cost $70 or more. These cheaper options often run faster and outperform the high-end ones, which explains why I can easily beat out expensive models like the 4600 Pro DJR at a fraction of the cost. Of course, some exceptions exist—like the Viper 4400—which can still compete if you find a capable build. The main challenge remains locating suitable bins for bare PCBs, which is either slow or nearly impossible.

Pages (3): Previous 1 2 3 Next