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No workflow specifically requires an Intel CPU.

No workflow specifically requires an Intel CPU.

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2Gustav
Member
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12-31-2023, 02:54 AM
#1
Hey everyone, I had a chat with a friend about the new Mac Pro and an article that criticized the lower-end models. They mentioned using a Threadripper CPU, which made me think it’s unfair since these CPUs behave differently. I’m curious—do you know if there are real-world scenarios that need an Intel CPU? Are AMD chips really limited in what they can do, or are there certain tasks where you just can’t use them? Thanks for any thoughts!
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2Gustav
12-31-2023, 02:54 AM #1

Hey everyone, I had a chat with a friend about the new Mac Pro and an article that criticized the lower-end models. They mentioned using a Threadripper CPU, which made me think it’s unfair since these CPUs behave differently. I’m curious—do you know if there are real-world scenarios that need an Intel CPU? Are AMD chips really limited in what they can do, or are there certain tasks where you just can’t use them? Thanks for any thoughts!

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dreams1
Member
249
12-31-2023, 03:20 PM
#2
No, performance drops on AMD systems. Unless you build a custom app needing quicksync, you won't be able to run it there. All quicksync-compatible programs function without it.
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dreams1
12-31-2023, 03:20 PM #2

No, performance drops on AMD systems. Unless you build a custom app needing quicksync, you won't be able to run it there. All quicksync-compatible programs function without it.

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spastan
Junior Member
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01-01-2024, 09:40 PM
#3
Apple does not work with AMD, that's the sole explanation
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spastan
01-01-2024, 09:40 PM #3

Apple does not work with AMD, that's the sole explanation

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herobrine3959
Senior Member
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01-02-2024, 04:38 AM
#4
Must not be necessary. Intel may gain an edge in certain areas. Anything dependent heavily on ST performance, such as gaming, Adobe CC tools (including Premiere), CAD, and 3D modeling, could see improvements. RAM performance remains a factor, especially with Zen 2 still having limitations. However, future generations might alter this situation.
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herobrine3959
01-02-2024, 04:38 AM #4

Must not be necessary. Intel may gain an edge in certain areas. Anything dependent heavily on ST performance, such as gaming, Adobe CC tools (including Premiere), CAD, and 3D modeling, could see improvements. RAM performance remains a factor, especially with Zen 2 still having limitations. However, future generations might alter this situation.

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Zexer_
Member
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01-03-2024, 05:31 AM
#5
the latest threadrippers deliver impressive speed on single-thread tasks, matching unoverclocked intel processors. Ryzen chips also perform well here. Intel offers greater overclocking potential, which will increase the single-core performance gap, though in practice the difference remains minimal between models.
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Zexer_
01-03-2024, 05:31 AM #5

the latest threadrippers deliver impressive speed on single-thread tasks, matching unoverclocked intel processors. Ryzen chips also perform well here. Intel offers greater overclocking potential, which will increase the single-core performance gap, though in practice the difference remains minimal between models.

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Superlettuce19
Senior Member
370
01-05-2024, 06:11 AM
#6
no workloads for consumers or producers that I know exist. there are ai tasks where intel is the sole x86 option, but in that case you’d need a gpu anyway. it seems you can likely use alternative instructions for the same job, except for a few exceptions. aside from a handful of cases, there really isn’t a task one CPU can handle that the other can’t. their microarchitecture and macro differ, but they accomplish similar things. hackintoshops have managed to work around this, though with some frustrating restrictions, but it’s still pretty straightforward to set up. tl;dr: each CPU has its limits, and performance gaps are inevitable.
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Superlettuce19
01-05-2024, 06:11 AM #6

no workloads for consumers or producers that I know exist. there are ai tasks where intel is the sole x86 option, but in that case you’d need a gpu anyway. it seems you can likely use alternative instructions for the same job, except for a few exceptions. aside from a handful of cases, there really isn’t a task one CPU can handle that the other can’t. their microarchitecture and macro differ, but they accomplish similar things. hackintoshops have managed to work around this, though with some frustrating restrictions, but it’s still pretty straightforward to set up. tl;dr: each CPU has its limits, and performance gaps are inevitable.

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Joris_boef
Member
51
01-09-2024, 07:18 AM
#7
Only minor variations in instruction extensions such as SSE, AVX appear (with a few exceptions Intel imposes for no apparent reason other than profit, like ECC RAM support). Both processors operate on the same core instruction set (X86-64) and will ultimately perform identical tasks. The distinction lies in efficiency, which translates to faster execution.
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Joris_boef
01-09-2024, 07:18 AM #7

Only minor variations in instruction extensions such as SSE, AVX appear (with a few exceptions Intel imposes for no apparent reason other than profit, like ECC RAM support). Both processors operate on the same core instruction set (X86-64) and will ultimately perform identical tasks. The distinction lies in efficiency, which translates to faster execution.

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ItsSquish
Junior Member
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01-10-2024, 04:14 AM
#8
Some folks find AMD modifications straightforward, like Sazzylabs' impressive 12-core Ryzen setup. Intel's 18-core models offer little room for growth, while the 9900KS might still hold around 5.2 cores without extra cooling. The 9th-gen Intel processors pushed performance limits from the factory, and my 6600k is running about 35-40% above spec—hope you can get a 9th-gen part to match.
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ItsSquish
01-10-2024, 04:14 AM #8

Some folks find AMD modifications straightforward, like Sazzylabs' impressive 12-core Ryzen setup. Intel's 18-core models offer little room for growth, while the 9900KS might still hold around 5.2 cores without extra cooling. The 9th-gen Intel processors pushed performance limits from the factory, and my 6600k is running about 35-40% above spec—hope you can get a 9th-gen part to match.

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yalex27
Senior Member
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01-10-2024, 04:29 AM
#9
ECC is currently addressing a few AMD systems such as the Pro WS X570-ACE
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yalex27
01-10-2024, 04:29 AM #9

ECC is currently addressing a few AMD systems such as the Pro WS X570-ACE

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Mini_Muffin24
Member
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01-16-2024, 01:44 PM
#10
It suggests possibilities for tools that rely on those guidelines, possibly needing Intel's support. AMD addresses this gap, but the distinction mainly affects speed.
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Mini_Muffin24
01-16-2024, 01:44 PM #10

It suggests possibilities for tools that rely on those guidelines, possibly needing Intel's support. AMD addresses this gap, but the distinction mainly affects speed.

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