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Lock_0n
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01-18-2024, 08:02 AM
#11
Recent updates for High Sierra AMD hackintoshes address many issues, but CPU power management remains a challenge. Compared to Intel-based setups, it offers advantages since system upgrades can be applied directly through the app store. The media creation process is still problematic, especially setting up an install drive for AMD systems. It seems a new bootloader has been released that simplifies things further, offering zero configuration like Clover. I’m not familiar with hackintosh ATM yet, as my 5700XT was unsupported until recently. I plan to try Mojave this weekend to test everything.
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Lock_0n
01-18-2024, 08:02 AM #11

Recent updates for High Sierra AMD hackintoshes address many issues, but CPU power management remains a challenge. Compared to Intel-based setups, it offers advantages since system upgrades can be applied directly through the app store. The media creation process is still problematic, especially setting up an install drive for AMD systems. It seems a new bootloader has been released that simplifies things further, offering zero configuration like Clover. I’m not familiar with hackintosh ATM yet, as my 5700XT was unsupported until recently. I plan to try Mojave this weekend to test everything.

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Lucianyourgod
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01-30-2024, 12:31 PM
#12
This is about the only possible scenario I can think of also, if some software was hard coded to require a feature only present in Intel CPUs. If this exists, it'll probably be very niche. General software may make use of multiple codepaths for different architectures to get the best out of each of them, regardless of the feature set available. There is also some non-zero risk that even with the same instruction support, there may be implementation differences sufficient to cause it to work on one and not the other. This shouldn't happen, but nothing is perfect. Again, this could be taken care off by either the code or compiler having knowledge of this and doing what is necessary to make it work as expected.
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Lucianyourgod
01-30-2024, 12:31 PM #12

This is about the only possible scenario I can think of also, if some software was hard coded to require a feature only present in Intel CPUs. If this exists, it'll probably be very niche. General software may make use of multiple codepaths for different architectures to get the best out of each of them, regardless of the feature set available. There is also some non-zero risk that even with the same instruction support, there may be implementation differences sufficient to cause it to work on one and not the other. This shouldn't happen, but nothing is perfect. Again, this could be taken care off by either the code or compiler having knowledge of this and doing what is necessary to make it work as expected.

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starwarsTP
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02-04-2024, 12:44 AM
#13
It would need an extremely outdated or unconventional CPU, such as a xeon phi, which demands a unique operating system. This is because the OS wouldn't recognize typical instructions, making it impossible to execute standard applications on such hardware.
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starwarsTP
02-04-2024, 12:44 AM #13

It would need an extremely outdated or unconventional CPU, such as a xeon phi, which demands a unique operating system. This is because the OS wouldn't recognize typical instructions, making it impossible to execute standard applications on such hardware.

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Lollypop666
Junior Member
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02-04-2024, 03:06 PM
#14
In the local market, only broad appeal matters. To reach a wide audience, developers aim for as many instruction sets as feasible. In business, definitely yes. Certain scientific fields depend on AVX512 and thus function only on premium Intel processors—extremely limited. These are typically found in research institutions and large organizations with powerful supercomputers. We usually handle custom-built solutions tailored to specific needs.
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Lollypop666
02-04-2024, 03:06 PM #14

In the local market, only broad appeal matters. To reach a wide audience, developers aim for as many instruction sets as feasible. In business, definitely yes. Certain scientific fields depend on AVX512 and thus function only on premium Intel processors—extremely limited. These are typically found in research institutions and large organizations with powerful supercomputers. We usually handle custom-built solutions tailored to specific needs.

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Quietvenom
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02-04-2024, 07:48 PM
#15
Well, Mac Pro isn't really aimed at everyday consumers or home users. That's why I brought it up initially. Considering all the points you shared, the next question should be—would this impact Mac users (especially those with Threadripper models)? Would it matter to them, or are these options meant for a different audience?
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Quietvenom
02-04-2024, 07:48 PM #15

Well, Mac Pro isn't really aimed at everyday consumers or home users. That's why I brought it up initially. Considering all the points you shared, the next question should be—would this impact Mac users (especially those with Threadripper models)? Would it matter to them, or are these options meant for a different audience?

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ChickenPhoYou
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02-05-2024, 07:10 PM
#16
From my perspective, it seems the scenario involves a particular device rather than a general comparison between Intel and AMD.
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ChickenPhoYou
02-05-2024, 07:10 PM #16

From my perspective, it seems the scenario involves a particular device rather than a general comparison between Intel and AMD.

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BryanPlayzz
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02-05-2024, 07:44 PM
#17
The main thing I noticed came from a hackintosh YouTuber reviewing a Ryzen 3900x setup. They were really impressed by how straightforward it was. I remember watching at least five of his videos on the topic.
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BryanPlayzz
02-05-2024, 07:44 PM #17

The main thing I noticed came from a hackintosh YouTuber reviewing a Ryzen 3900x setup. They were really impressed by how straightforward it was. I remember watching at least five of his videos on the topic.

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Shad0wHydra13
Senior Member
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02-06-2024, 01:16 AM
#18
These situations would belong to a completely different category. They involve challenges that drive the purchase of specialized equipment tailored to specific needs, often involving custom software development. For someone like an average user, even with Intel, there’s rarely a scenario where its performance matches what AMD could offer.
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Shad0wHydra13
02-06-2024, 01:16 AM #18

These situations would belong to a completely different category. They involve challenges that drive the purchase of specialized equipment tailored to specific needs, often involving custom software development. For someone like an average user, even with Intel, there’s rarely a scenario where its performance matches what AMD could offer.

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ricby
Senior Member
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02-26-2024, 10:03 AM
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Not exactly what I imagined. Even for today's CPUs, there are numerous instructions. It might be that two makers have slightly different understandings, leading to varied outcomes, or perhaps both aimed for the same goal but made a mistake during implementation, causing different results. I can't provide a concrete example for either, but errata lists suggest something might be malfunctioning, yet people still expect it to function incorrectly until a proper fix appears. The earlier ones felt more like co-processors, so they weren<|pad|>, making them less like standard x86 devices. Later ones could run any x86 software, though slowly—Linus discovered when he attempted to play games on one. They're essentially tiny processors with a powerful FPU attached. If you skip using that FPU, which is its purpose, you won't gain any advantage; only the downsides remain.
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ricby
02-26-2024, 10:03 AM #19

Not exactly what I imagined. Even for today's CPUs, there are numerous instructions. It might be that two makers have slightly different understandings, leading to varied outcomes, or perhaps both aimed for the same goal but made a mistake during implementation, causing different results. I can't provide a concrete example for either, but errata lists suggest something might be malfunctioning, yet people still expect it to function incorrectly until a proper fix appears. The earlier ones felt more like co-processors, so they weren<|pad|>, making them less like standard x86 devices. Later ones could run any x86 software, though slowly—Linus discovered when he attempted to play games on one. They're essentially tiny processors with a powerful FPU attached. If you skip using that FPU, which is its purpose, you won't gain any advantage; only the downsides remain.

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fuzzyfoxy
Junior Member
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02-26-2024, 12:17 PM
#20
This applies only to certain consumer CPUs, not all models. The 'not supporting instructions' issue lies with the operating system, not the CPU itself, provided it uses standard x86 or x64 architecture.
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fuzzyfoxy
02-26-2024, 12:17 PM #20

This applies only to certain consumer CPUs, not all models. The 'not supporting instructions' issue lies with the operating system, not the CPU itself, provided it uses standard x86 or x64 architecture.

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