F5F Stay Refreshed Hardware Desktop No one has shared their experience with those AliExpress CPU+mobo bundles.

No one has shared their experience with those AliExpress CPU+mobo bundles.

No one has shared their experience with those AliExpress CPU+mobo bundles.

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3gilad3
Senior Member
735
10-12-2022, 09:54 PM
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Was auf AliExpress gekauft und entdeckt, dass sie einen 11980hk ES mit Motherboard für 158 Dollar anbieten. Interessant ist, dass ich mich für diesen Preis entschieden habe. Fragt mich, ob jemand sonst ähnliche Modelle bekommt? Ich habe einige Bewertungen zur 11800h-Version gesehen und einige nicht-englisch Bewertungen zum 11980hk. Es scheint, als wäre es ein faszinierendes Produkt von AliExpress, trotz der damit verbundenen Probleme. Denn bei 158 Dollar für CPU und Motherboard ist es nur in Bezug auf einen Ryzen 5500/i3 12100f vergleichbar.
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3gilad3
10-12-2022, 09:54 PM #1

Was auf AliExpress gekauft und entdeckt, dass sie einen 11980hk ES mit Motherboard für 158 Dollar anbieten. Interessant ist, dass ich mich für diesen Preis entschieden habe. Fragt mich, ob jemand sonst ähnliche Modelle bekommt? Ich habe einige Bewertungen zur 11800h-Version gesehen und einige nicht-englisch Bewertungen zum 11980hk. Es scheint, als wäre es ein faszinierendes Produkt von AliExpress, trotz der damit verbundenen Probleme. Denn bei 158 Dollar für CPU und Motherboard ist es nur in Bezug auf einen Ryzen 5500/i3 12100f vergleichbar.

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JWgamer407
Junior Member
1
10-17-2022, 09:56 AM
#2
It might be worth considering, especially if you can afford it. However, my experience with AliExpress has been mixed—after checking a few times, I still haven’t made up my mind.
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JWgamer407
10-17-2022, 09:56 AM #2

It might be worth considering, especially if you can afford it. However, my experience with AliExpress has been mixed—after checking a few times, I still haven’t made up my mind.

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gafor123
Member
214
10-24-2022, 07:26 AM
#3
It's unfair to compare it to new options since they're combined products without any warranty. For a 160 used, a 3700 model is readily available.
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gafor123
10-24-2022, 07:26 AM #3

It's unfair to compare it to new options since they're combined products without any warranty. For a 160 used, a 3700 model is readily available.

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Hanshb3
Member
132
10-24-2022, 07:46 AM
#4
Well my reasons were: I t's Intel 10nm tiger lake and that never got a desktop release. It should be better than an 11900k in gaming if it can clock well, since it has 24mb of cache vs 16mb for the 11900k plus is on a newer architecture. It also has AVX-512 support. Intel's early 12th gen chips had avx-512 support but that was later disabled. In theory, this should be only behind Ryzen 7000 series for PS3 emulation. Of course that's assuming it overclocks well, which I do not know yet. So, I'm thinking the best case scenario for this chip is that it's around a Ryzen 5800x in performance but with Avx-512 support and worst case is somewhere around a Ryzen 5500 in games. There's a reddit post of someone taking a Legion 7i laptop with liquid metal and getting 4.9ghz all core for a Cinebench r23 score of 16279. Of course this is an ES and a dodgy motherboard but I'm thinking I'll put a 360mm AIO on it, so maybe? lol
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Hanshb3
10-24-2022, 07:46 AM #4

Well my reasons were: I t's Intel 10nm tiger lake and that never got a desktop release. It should be better than an 11900k in gaming if it can clock well, since it has 24mb of cache vs 16mb for the 11900k plus is on a newer architecture. It also has AVX-512 support. Intel's early 12th gen chips had avx-512 support but that was later disabled. In theory, this should be only behind Ryzen 7000 series for PS3 emulation. Of course that's assuming it overclocks well, which I do not know yet. So, I'm thinking the best case scenario for this chip is that it's around a Ryzen 5800x in performance but with Avx-512 support and worst case is somewhere around a Ryzen 5500 in games. There's a reddit post of someone taking a Legion 7i laptop with liquid metal and getting 4.9ghz all core for a Cinebench r23 score of 16279. Of course this is an ES and a dodgy motherboard but I'm thinking I'll put a 360mm AIO on it, so maybe? lol

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gAm3rBoY21
Junior Member
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10-24-2022, 02:30 PM
#5
However, it remains AliExpress.
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gAm3rBoY21
10-24-2022, 02:30 PM #5

However, it remains AliExpress.

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CopyPaste
Junior Member
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10-24-2022, 03:58 PM
#6
It seems like you're reflecting on a past project and wondering what would happen if things progressed further. Tiger Lake did manage to overcome the clock limit that limited Ice Lake, and it would be fascinating to see how performance improves beyond 5 GHz—especially with the single-core turbo in the later stages.
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CopyPaste
10-24-2022, 03:58 PM #6

It seems like you're reflecting on a past project and wondering what would happen if things progressed further. Tiger Lake did manage to overcome the clock limit that limited Ice Lake, and it would be fascinating to see how performance improves beyond 5 GHz—especially with the single-core turbo in the later stages.

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Blakem16
Member
154
10-24-2022, 04:23 PM
#7
So it finally arrived in the mail and I’ve got some feedback. It functions, but it’s clearly AliExpress made. The copper “IHS” has a real fingerprint left on it that won’t wash off, and its thermal performance is terrible. I’m using a 360mm AIO with 80w power draw, which gives me around 100°C. I also tried a generic OEM fan, which would handle about 75w, so the cooling setup isn’t the main issue here—the problem is that IHS. I even removed it and installed an artic Mx-4 fan manually spread across the die. XMP seems to work somewhat? To be honest, the listing advertised a max of 3200MHz, but my 32GB DDR4 3600 kit ran at 3400MHz anyway—kind of impressive considering the situation.

Overclocking didn’t seem viable because of the heat. My goal was to lower the voltage and keep temperatures manageable. The overclocking tweaks did help a bit, though. I’m currently using throttle stop settings at around 4.19 GHz with a few adjustments: BCLK set to -137, cache voltage offset at -80. It’s drawing about 65W in Cinebench R23 and staying under 86°C during the test. That’s actually decent for the price.

Performance-wise, it scored 14,006 in R23 with some tuning. On CPU-Z with those settings, it’s running at 562 cores single-threaded and 5784 threads. At $158 plus taxes, it feels pretty worth it compared to alternatives like a Ryzen 3600+B450 for $130 or a Ryzen 5500 with a board around $150. It’s getting more expensive since then, but the overclocking isn’t much of a factor now. I’d probably go for the 11800h ES version for $150 if you want better value.

In short, it offers strong performance at a reasonable cost, but the thermal design is a real bottleneck. If you’re up for the risks, direct die cooling could be an option later. For now, it’s a solid choice for a high-end build if you can handle its quirks. I’d recommend checking out some Portuguese tutorials to fine-tune the BIOS settings—some people in Brazil have found it sells well there thanks to the local market.
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Blakem16
10-24-2022, 04:23 PM #7

So it finally arrived in the mail and I’ve got some feedback. It functions, but it’s clearly AliExpress made. The copper “IHS” has a real fingerprint left on it that won’t wash off, and its thermal performance is terrible. I’m using a 360mm AIO with 80w power draw, which gives me around 100°C. I also tried a generic OEM fan, which would handle about 75w, so the cooling setup isn’t the main issue here—the problem is that IHS. I even removed it and installed an artic Mx-4 fan manually spread across the die. XMP seems to work somewhat? To be honest, the listing advertised a max of 3200MHz, but my 32GB DDR4 3600 kit ran at 3400MHz anyway—kind of impressive considering the situation.

Overclocking didn’t seem viable because of the heat. My goal was to lower the voltage and keep temperatures manageable. The overclocking tweaks did help a bit, though. I’m currently using throttle stop settings at around 4.19 GHz with a few adjustments: BCLK set to -137, cache voltage offset at -80. It’s drawing about 65W in Cinebench R23 and staying under 86°C during the test. That’s actually decent for the price.

Performance-wise, it scored 14,006 in R23 with some tuning. On CPU-Z with those settings, it’s running at 562 cores single-threaded and 5784 threads. At $158 plus taxes, it feels pretty worth it compared to alternatives like a Ryzen 3600+B450 for $130 or a Ryzen 5500 with a board around $150. It’s getting more expensive since then, but the overclocking isn’t much of a factor now. I’d probably go for the 11800h ES version for $150 if you want better value.

In short, it offers strong performance at a reasonable cost, but the thermal design is a real bottleneck. If you’re up for the risks, direct die cooling could be an option later. For now, it’s a solid choice for a high-end build if you can handle its quirks. I’d recommend checking out some Portuguese tutorials to fine-tune the BIOS settings—some people in Brazil have found it sells well there thanks to the local market.

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Theboss572
Member
184
11-07-2022, 06:12 AM
#8
MX-4 direct die performance isn't ideal. Liquid metal would yield better outcomes. Expect fast output at elevated temperatures. Seems reasonable given the price. Offers something special to experiment with. AVX512 is affordable, but cooling system needs redesign.
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Theboss572
11-07-2022, 06:12 AM #8

MX-4 direct die performance isn't ideal. Liquid metal would yield better outcomes. Expect fast output at elevated temperatures. Seems reasonable given the price. Offers something special to experiment with. AVX512 is affordable, but cooling system needs redesign.

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VitoSEXY
Posting Freak
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11-07-2022, 09:54 AM
#9
It's accurate, but I don't possess any liquid metal and worry about it seeping into areas it shouldn't reach over time.
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VitoSEXY
11-07-2022, 09:54 AM #9

It's accurate, but I don't possess any liquid metal and worry about it seeping into areas it shouldn't reach over time.

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nickzach10
Member
163
11-08-2022, 03:41 AM
#10
I disliked the temperatures, so I disassembled everything and applied a lot of thermal paste in an attempt to cover gaps. Continued refining by undervolting. Transitioned to XTU for precise core clock speed tweaks. This really helped since cores varied by 20°C, allowing fine adjustments per core. After all this work, I reached 14500 across all cores in Cinebench r23 using just 75W. The fastest core hit 4.59 GHz while the slowest was 4.29 GHz. Temperatures dropped to 84°C during a single run. Single-core performance is slightly above 1500. In cpu-z, it now shows 596 single-core and 6058 multi-thread counts. Here are some photos (quality not ideal): https://imgur.com/a/l6eNX0C
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nickzach10
11-08-2022, 03:41 AM #10

I disliked the temperatures, so I disassembled everything and applied a lot of thermal paste in an attempt to cover gaps. Continued refining by undervolting. Transitioned to XTU for precise core clock speed tweaks. This really helped since cores varied by 20°C, allowing fine adjustments per core. After all this work, I reached 14500 across all cores in Cinebench r23 using just 75W. The fastest core hit 4.59 GHz while the slowest was 4.29 GHz. Temperatures dropped to 84°C during a single run. Single-core performance is slightly above 1500. In cpu-z, it now shows 596 single-core and 6058 multi-thread counts. Here are some photos (quality not ideal): https://imgur.com/a/l6eNX0C

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