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Bukos_PL
Junior Member
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12-19-2019, 08:06 PM
#1
Hey there! I heard you recently purchased an upgrade kit from a nearby store. Let me break this down for you. The AMD RYZEN 5 PRO 4650G kit includes a motherboard and memory modules, but there are some compatibility details to consider. The CPU you mentioned supports speeds up to 3200 MHz, while the kit claims memory speeds can reach 3600 MHz. That means your RAM would need to be at least 3600 MHz to match the kit's specs. If you're using XMP profiles, turning them off might resolve the random restarts. It sounds like your setup is a bit mixed, but it’s not uncommon for kits to bundle components that require specific configurations. Your PSU is solid at 500W, and the GPU you’re using should work fine with the kit. Just double-check your RAM type and ensure it’s compatible with both the motherboard and the kit. Let me know if you need more clarification!
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Bukos_PL
12-19-2019, 08:06 PM #1

Hey there! I heard you recently purchased an upgrade kit from a nearby store. Let me break this down for you. The AMD RYZEN 5 PRO 4650G kit includes a motherboard and memory modules, but there are some compatibility details to consider. The CPU you mentioned supports speeds up to 3200 MHz, while the kit claims memory speeds can reach 3600 MHz. That means your RAM would need to be at least 3600 MHz to match the kit's specs. If you're using XMP profiles, turning them off might resolve the random restarts. It sounds like your setup is a bit mixed, but it’s not uncommon for kits to bundle components that require specific configurations. Your PSU is solid at 500W, and the GPU you’re using should work fine with the kit. Just double-check your RAM type and ensure it’s compatible with both the motherboard and the kit. Let me know if you need more clarification!

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CatsGoMeow123
Member
158
12-20-2019, 12:05 AM
#2
It works consistently unless you encounter faulty silicon in your memory controller, but if that happens, 3200CL16 should offer nearly identical performance.
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CatsGoMeow123
12-20-2019, 12:05 AM #2

It works consistently unless you encounter faulty silicon in your memory controller, but if that happens, 3200CL16 should offer nearly identical performance.

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Toodaloo_246
Senior Member
439
12-20-2019, 01:52 AM
#3
Thanks TatamiMatt, I plan to give it a shot this evening. It seems the issue might be linked to the fresh Windows 11 setup and the frequent restarts I’ve experienced. I switched off XMP last night and haven’t seen any random reboots since then. I’ll attempt to run the 3200 test and share my results. Appreciate your help!
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Toodaloo_246
12-20-2019, 01:52 AM #3

Thanks TatamiMatt, I plan to give it a shot this evening. It seems the issue might be linked to the fresh Windows 11 setup and the frequent restarts I’ve experienced. I switched off XMP last night and haven’t seen any random reboots since then. I’ll attempt to run the 3200 test and share my results. Appreciate your help!

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PonchiClient
Junior Member
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12-20-2019, 07:00 AM
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PonchiClient
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babinhb
Junior Member
36
12-20-2019, 12:45 PM
#5
I'll take it and receive another kit that avoids the 4000 APU due to the quartered cache issue. Even when running at 1:1 FCLK (4400-4600 DDR4 for Renoir), it still can't match the 8MB cache available on a 3600(X)). If you need that setup, adjust the RAM timings to 4400 to prevent underperformance versus a 3600(X).
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babinhb
12-20-2019, 12:45 PM #5

I'll take it and receive another kit that avoids the 4000 APU due to the quartered cache issue. Even when running at 1:1 FCLK (4400-4600 DDR4 for Renoir), it still can't match the 8MB cache available on a 3600(X)). If you need that setup, adjust the RAM timings to 4400 to prevent underperformance versus a 3600(X).

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ShadowNiqht
Member
198
12-22-2019, 01:17 AM
#6
I don’t think they’ll allow me to return it since I bought it back in December, but I just didn’t have time to assemble it. I finally had a chance this weekend and now I’m seeing the problems. I’m a bit puzzled—will a 4400 work with dims set to 3600 CL18? Also, I think it’s the 3600 speed that’s triggering the restarts because at stock 2666 it seems to run smoothly. I’ll do some more testing to confirm. Anyone know how to check if RAM is the cause? Maybe a crash log exists for review? Thanks!
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ShadowNiqht
12-22-2019, 01:17 AM #6

I don’t think they’ll allow me to return it since I bought it back in December, but I just didn’t have time to assemble it. I finally had a chance this weekend and now I’m seeing the problems. I’m a bit puzzled—will a 4400 work with dims set to 3600 CL18? Also, I think it’s the 3600 speed that’s triggering the restarts because at stock 2666 it seems to run smoothly. I’ll do some more testing to confirm. Anyone know how to check if RAM is the cause? Maybe a crash log exists for review? Thanks!

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CuzImJuli
Member
204
12-22-2019, 07:20 AM
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Binning is only important when there are inconsistent iocs. There’s a reason some budget OEM 2133-2666 models can reach high speeds (4000+) while others hit a cap around 3200 or 3600. You can share a screenshot of the thaiphoon burner to spot RAM iocs—they’re likely capable of 4400+. Also, XMP not working should be considered a fault, which might allow you to return the item.
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CuzImJuli
12-22-2019, 07:20 AM #7

Binning is only important when there are inconsistent iocs. There’s a reason some budget OEM 2133-2666 models can reach high speeds (4000+) while others hit a cap around 3200 or 3600. You can share a screenshot of the thaiphoon burner to spot RAM iocs—they’re likely capable of 4400+. Also, XMP not working should be considered a fault, which might allow you to return the item.

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HdoubleO
Member
186
12-22-2019, 08:12 AM
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Thank you for your message. I didn’t realize this would be considered an issue. I’ll collect more details this evening and let you know my findings. If it turns out to be true, I’ll attempt to return it.
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HdoubleO
12-22-2019, 08:12 AM #8

Thank you for your message. I didn’t realize this would be considered an issue. I’ll collect more details this evening and let you know my findings. If it turns out to be true, I’ll attempt to return it.

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PaigeOfTheBook
Senior Member
733
12-22-2019, 11:13 PM
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Hello, I wanted to let you know about the progress. My computer finally started running smoothly. I attempted to run 3200 CL16, but it caused the screen to go black and I had to reset the CMOS. Then I re-applied my XMP profile (18-22-22-42 or similar) and lowered the speed to 3533. This stabilized the system, and I tested Prime95 for an hour to verify. It seems my CPU might not be powerful enough for the 3600 MHz frequency.
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PaigeOfTheBook
12-22-2019, 11:13 PM #9

Hello, I wanted to let you know about the progress. My computer finally started running smoothly. I attempted to run 3200 CL16, but it caused the screen to go black and I had to reset the CMOS. Then I re-applied my XMP profile (18-22-22-42 or similar) and lowered the speed to 3533. This stabilized the system, and I tested Prime95 for an hour to verify. It seems my CPU might not be powerful enough for the 3600 MHz frequency.

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zLeoZiin
Senior Member
503
12-24-2019, 01:40 AM
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Hello, I wanted to let you know about the progress. My computer finally started running smoothly. I attempted to run 3200 CL16, but it caused the screen to go black and I had to reset the CMOS. Then I re-applied my XMP profile (18-22-22-42 or similar) and lowered the speed to 3533. This stabilized the system, and I tested Prime95 for an hour to verify. It seems my CPU might not be powerful enough for the 3600 MHz frequency.
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zLeoZiin
12-24-2019, 01:40 AM #10

Hello, I wanted to let you know about the progress. My computer finally started running smoothly. I attempted to run 3200 CL16, but it caused the screen to go black and I had to reset the CMOS. Then I re-applied my XMP profile (18-22-22-42 or similar) and lowered the speed to 3533. This stabilized the system, and I tested Prime95 for an hour to verify. It seems my CPU might not be powerful enough for the 3600 MHz frequency.