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Micron B-die versus Micron E-die in Ryzen 5000 series, especially the 5600X.

Micron B-die versus Micron E-die in Ryzen 5000 series, especially the 5600X.

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PIE_XD
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08-16-2020, 12:58 PM
#11
I mentioned dual rank per channel. It can be either 4 single-rank sticks or 2 dual-rank sticks. At identical frequencies and timings, a dual-rank per channel configuration will surpass a single-rank setup. The concern here is the extent of timing precision needed or the speed required to counter this benefit. Higher-rank configurations are more complex and can't match the same latencies or frequencies as single-rank setups. Premium memory overclocking boards typically have just 2 slots because it streamlines the motherboard design and enhances signal quality for achieving greater overclocks. Nonetheless, the key point remains that a dual-rank per channel approach outperforms a single-rank one.
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PIE_XD
08-16-2020, 12:58 PM #11

I mentioned dual rank per channel. It can be either 4 single-rank sticks or 2 dual-rank sticks. At identical frequencies and timings, a dual-rank per channel configuration will surpass a single-rank setup. The concern here is the extent of timing precision needed or the speed required to counter this benefit. Higher-rank configurations are more complex and can't match the same latencies or frequencies as single-rank setups. Premium memory overclocking boards typically have just 2 slots because it streamlines the motherboard design and enhances signal quality for achieving greater overclocks. Nonetheless, the key point remains that a dual-rank per channel approach outperforms a single-rank one.

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Max846
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08-16-2020, 01:17 PM
#12
Your question was clearly detailed and thoughtful. I appreciate your focus on understanding the full picture. It’s important to recognize that this isn’t a one-sided situation. When both sides are OC to their maximum potential, even the Micron B die single rank would likely maintain an edge if the Micron E die is optimized at its highest level.
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Max846
08-16-2020, 01:17 PM #12

Your question was clearly detailed and thoughtful. I appreciate your focus on understanding the full picture. It’s important to recognize that this isn’t a one-sided situation. When both sides are OC to their maximum potential, even the Micron B die single rank would likely maintain an edge if the Micron E die is optimized at its highest level.

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MR_SYKE
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08-17-2020, 04:33 AM
#13
I assume if both kits are extended as far as they can go, the single-rank kit will likely win. The kit with dual ranks would reach its frequency limit much earlier than the single-rank version, so the extra ranks wouldn't compensate for its higher frequency and lower latency. In a practical setting where you run the kits between 3600MHz and 4000Mhz (whatever your clock frequency is) for continuous operation, the dual-rank kit probably has the edge.
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MR_SYKE
08-17-2020, 04:33 AM #13

I assume if both kits are extended as far as they can go, the single-rank kit will likely win. The kit with dual ranks would reach its frequency limit much earlier than the single-rank version, so the extra ranks wouldn't compensate for its higher frequency and lower latency. In a practical setting where you run the kits between 3600MHz and 4000Mhz (whatever your clock frequency is) for continuous operation, the dual-rank kit probably has the edge.

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Ailinie
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08-19-2020, 02:42 AM
#14
The question about adding a more real-world scenario is clear. It’s about whether stable operation could be achieved at higher frequencies.
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Ailinie
08-19-2020, 02:42 AM #14

The question about adding a more real-world scenario is clear. It’s about whether stable operation could be achieved at higher frequencies.

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xoxo_blonde
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08-25-2020, 09:34 AM
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It's feasible, though not recommended for continuous use. For processors with 3000 and 5000 series chips running above 3600Mhz to 4000Mhz (varies by manufacturing), maintaining a perfect 1:1 fclk to uclk ratio can boost bandwidth and reduce latency. Exceeding this range may hurt performance, unless you're an experienced memory overclocker familiar with the process.
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xoxo_blonde
08-25-2020, 09:34 AM #15

It's feasible, though not recommended for continuous use. For processors with 3000 and 5000 series chips running above 3600Mhz to 4000Mhz (varies by manufacturing), maintaining a perfect 1:1 fclk to uclk ratio can boost bandwidth and reduce latency. Exceeding this range may hurt performance, unless you're an experienced memory overclocker familiar with the process.

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TungTwister
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08-27-2020, 04:10 AM
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Perfect summary! What we were aiming for was clear. For the original poster, I’d recommend the top-tier E-Die kits from micron, even though the Miceon B-Die isn’t bad. I believe those E-Die models perform better at higher frequencies. The real-world gap would be minimal—similar to jumping from 3400mhz to 3600mhz. In most scenarios, especially between gaming and casual use, you’d likely see only a couple of extra frames per second.
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TungTwister
08-27-2020, 04:10 AM #16

Perfect summary! What we were aiming for was clear. For the original poster, I’d recommend the top-tier E-Die kits from micron, even though the Miceon B-Die isn’t bad. I believe those E-Die models perform better at higher frequencies. The real-world gap would be minimal—similar to jumping from 3400mhz to 3600mhz. In most scenarios, especially between gaming and casual use, you’d likely see only a couple of extra frames per second.

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BrendanC4
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08-27-2020, 02:07 PM
#17
Absolutely, no worries about the 1:1 ratio. Thanks for all the helpful answers. I'll check if I can get dual rank sticks, otherwise I won't be losing much—really.
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BrendanC4
08-27-2020, 02:07 PM #17

Absolutely, no worries about the 1:1 ratio. Thanks for all the helpful answers. I'll check if I can get dual rank sticks, otherwise I won't be losing much—really.

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sopispink
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08-27-2020, 04:59 PM
#18
It's worth mentioning Micron's E-die kit as well. The board I'm using matches their memory type and I've achieved a solid overclock, which is impressive given the affordable memory I managed to obtain.
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sopispink
08-27-2020, 04:59 PM #18

It's worth mentioning Micron's E-die kit as well. The board I'm using matches their memory type and I've achieved a solid overclock, which is impressive given the affordable memory I managed to obtain.

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