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Micron B-die versus Micron E-die in Ryzen 5000 series, especially the 5600X.

Micron B-die versus Micron E-die in Ryzen 5000 series, especially the 5600X.

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GameSquirrel
Junior Member
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07-27-2020, 08:18 PM
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I just purchased the Crucial ballistix 2x16GB 3600C16, single-rank Micron B die sticks. I've heard a lot of debate about whether these are single, dual, B die, E die, etc. My question is: if I compare two sticks at the same specs—two sticks instead of four—I'd expect the single-rank B die to be better or worse than a dual-rank Micron E die on Ryzen 5000 series? Or more specifically, which part (timings, frequency, etc.) would outperform the other while keeping the single vs dual rank in mind?
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GameSquirrel
07-27-2020, 08:18 PM #1

I just purchased the Crucial ballistix 2x16GB 3600C16, single-rank Micron B die sticks. I've heard a lot of debate about whether these are single, dual, B die, E die, etc. My question is: if I compare two sticks at the same specs—two sticks instead of four—I'd expect the single-rank B die to be better or worse than a dual-rank Micron E die on Ryzen 5000 series? Or more specifically, which part (timings, frequency, etc.) would outperform the other while keeping the single vs dual rank in mind?

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PinkStarBr
Junior Member
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08-03-2020, 11:57 PM
#2
Many 16 gigabit sticks are dual-rank capable. The specific RAM details determine its quality. For Ryzen 5000 models, a minimum of 3600MHz CL16-16-16-36 is recommended. To achieve peak performance, consider either dual-rank 2x16GB or quad-rank 4x8GB at 3600MHz CL16. Dual-rank 4x8GB at 3600MHz CL15 is also excellent.
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PinkStarBr
08-03-2020, 11:57 PM #2

Many 16 gigabit sticks are dual-rank capable. The specific RAM details determine its quality. For Ryzen 5000 models, a minimum of 3600MHz CL16-16-16-36 is recommended. To achieve peak performance, consider either dual-rank 2x16GB or quad-rank 4x8GB at 3600MHz CL16. Dual-rank 4x8GB at 3600MHz CL15 is also excellent.

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Twizzler152
Junior Member
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08-11-2020, 08:03 AM
#3
Dual ranking across channels offers better results compared to single ranking alone. I'm curious if testing shows that these benefits can offset increased delay or reduced sampling rate. My idea is that faster rates, less delay, and channel-based rankings together improve overall performance.
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Twizzler152
08-11-2020, 08:03 AM #3

Dual ranking across channels offers better results compared to single ranking alone. I'm curious if testing shows that these benefits can offset increased delay or reduced sampling rate. My idea is that faster rates, less delay, and channel-based rankings together improve overall performance.

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SKI0
Junior Member
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08-11-2020, 02:02 PM
#4
The idea that dual-ranked 4 sticks outperform two 8GB sticks under high-speed, tight timings is confusing to me. The best memory full ATX boards (Apex) don’t even have four slots... Could I be being misled by the competitive players? Not sure...
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SKI0
08-11-2020, 02:02 PM #4

The idea that dual-ranked 4 sticks outperform two 8GB sticks under high-speed, tight timings is confusing to me. The best memory full ATX boards (Apex) don’t even have four slots... Could I be being misled by the competitive players? Not sure...

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rougestatus54
Junior Member
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08-11-2020, 06:59 PM
#5
I'm focusing on being more precise with the details. The rams you mentioned are 16-18-18-38. As discussed, it seems the B unit would likely close the gap by being single-ranked compared to the E unit, which has dual ranking and better timing/frequency characteristics.
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rougestatus54
08-11-2020, 06:59 PM #5

I'm focusing on being more precise with the details. The rams you mentioned are 16-18-18-38. As discussed, it seems the B unit would likely close the gap by being single-ranked compared to the E unit, which has dual ranking and better timing/frequency characteristics.

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3Edge
Senior Member
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08-12-2020, 08:34 AM
#6
The kit appears to be a single-rank design. If you modify the B die, it will definitely outperform the E die. The difference between the B die and E die isn't very large.
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3Edge
08-12-2020, 08:34 AM #6

The kit appears to be a single-rank design. If you modify the B die, it will definitely outperform the E die. The difference between the B die and E die isn't very large.

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08-14-2020, 03:38 AM
#7
Already reviewed, but it doesn’t address each situation (that’s unrealistic, not my point about GN). That’s why I’m bringing it up now.
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DiamondGaming4
08-14-2020, 03:38 AM #7

Already reviewed, but it doesn’t address each situation (that’s unrealistic, not my point about GN). That’s why I’m bringing it up now.

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COLIN20052012
Posting Freak
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08-14-2020, 04:16 AM
#8
If we compare single-rank (B die) versus dual-rank (E die), the outcome depends on the specific context and data. Even if B die performs better individually, a dual-rank E die might still surpass it simply due to its dual nature. The exact result would require analyzing performance metrics under those conditions.
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COLIN20052012
08-14-2020, 04:16 AM #8

If we compare single-rank (B die) versus dual-rank (E die), the outcome depends on the specific context and data. Even if B die performs better individually, a dual-rank E die might still surpass it simply due to its dual nature. The exact result would require analyzing performance metrics under those conditions.

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cloudAce6472
Member
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08-14-2020, 07:36 AM
#9
With a solid original character, performance will clearly surpass expectations. As shown in the video, 4x single rank improves by 8% over 2x single rank.
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cloudAce6472
08-14-2020, 07:36 AM #9

With a solid original character, performance will clearly surpass expectations. As shown in the video, 4x single rank improves by 8% over 2x single rank.

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IcemanLFC
Member
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08-15-2020, 11:58 AM
#10
That’s the situation—using two sticks instead of four single 16GB sticks. For my needs, 32GB is enough, so sticking with two sticks makes sense. Would you like to pick dual-rank sticks for better performance?
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IcemanLFC
08-15-2020, 11:58 AM #10

That’s the situation—using two sticks instead of four single 16GB sticks. For my needs, 32GB is enough, so sticking with two sticks makes sense. Would you like to pick dual-rank sticks for better performance?

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