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Link a PC to the web via another machine without using Wi-Fi.

Link a PC to the web via another machine without using Wi-Fi.

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lizzy_948
Member
148
07-16-2016, 10:45 AM
#1
So, no. I’m not sure about the answer, but I’m actually here to ask it. The setup feels a bit confusing to me—this phrase “need” is used loosely here. I’d really like to understand how to get this working. My main concern seems to be that Windows won’t let it unless the PC is directly linked to the router and connects to the internet via Wi-Fi. I’ve seen many tutorials, but I haven’t managed to set it up without any Wi-Fi active. I need only wired connections and want to link other devices to my main PC, which runs expensive security software I can’t return. The thought is that by running those other devices through my single PC connected to the router, the security app could monitor all traffic. Even though I might have to tweak Windows, I’m keen to avoid any wireless links in my home setup. I already have tools to modify Windows, like adding group policies, and I feel this might be a feature meant for enterprise or server versions. Or maybe I’m misunderstanding the core issue. Any advice would be great. Also: does your security software on the connected device actually scan and track traffic? I’m not sure.

Notes:
- Running Windows 10 Home
- Primarily used for file storage and browsing
- Using a VPN connection
- Equipped with a 4-port Ethernet card
- i7 processor with integrated GPU, 16GB RAM, fast NVMe SSD
- Considered overkill for just acting as a modem/endpoint
- Previously used a Nighthawk router with Bitdefender installed
- P.S.: If someone has time, feel free to message me. I’m on Discord @ ElixirNix#1440
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lizzy_948
07-16-2016, 10:45 AM #1

So, no. I’m not sure about the answer, but I’m actually here to ask it. The setup feels a bit confusing to me—this phrase “need” is used loosely here. I’d really like to understand how to get this working. My main concern seems to be that Windows won’t let it unless the PC is directly linked to the router and connects to the internet via Wi-Fi. I’ve seen many tutorials, but I haven’t managed to set it up without any Wi-Fi active. I need only wired connections and want to link other devices to my main PC, which runs expensive security software I can’t return. The thought is that by running those other devices through my single PC connected to the router, the security app could monitor all traffic. Even though I might have to tweak Windows, I’m keen to avoid any wireless links in my home setup. I already have tools to modify Windows, like adding group policies, and I feel this might be a feature meant for enterprise or server versions. Or maybe I’m misunderstanding the core issue. Any advice would be great. Also: does your security software on the connected device actually scan and track traffic? I’m not sure.

Notes:
- Running Windows 10 Home
- Primarily used for file storage and browsing
- Using a VPN connection
- Equipped with a 4-port Ethernet card
- i7 processor with integrated GPU, 16GB RAM, fast NVMe SSD
- Considered overkill for just acting as a modem/endpoint
- Previously used a Nighthawk router with Bitdefender installed
- P.S.: If someone has time, feel free to message me. I’m on Discord @ ElixirNix#1440

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alerabbit
Posting Freak
840
07-18-2016, 10:07 AM
#2
I believe it's unlikely because the software will track connections being established on the PC, while Internet sharing operates at a lower OS/network level. It seems improbable to monitor such deep within the system. A proxy server could be an option, but it would restrict functionality for other devices, especially in areas like gaming.
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alerabbit
07-18-2016, 10:07 AM #2

I believe it's unlikely because the software will track connections being established on the PC, while Internet sharing operates at a lower OS/network level. It seems improbable to monitor such deep within the system. A proxy server could be an option, but it would restrict functionality for other devices, especially in areas like gaming.

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augustb19907
Senior Member
456
07-20-2016, 08:29 AM
#3
I’ll examine a proxy server. The problem is though, using the Windows Server edition or even Linux won’t let the security software work. It feels like I’ve wasted my money and now I’m stuck trying to set it up as an endpoint. I did manage to make the machine act like a router with pfSense, but once installed and powered on I was confused about the setup and couldn’t install the protection. And yes… I planned to use this device as a capture card for gaming. If games don’t work through a proxy, then the whole plan falls apart. But I’m just trying to figure things out as best as I can with what Google lets me.
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augustb19907
07-20-2016, 08:29 AM #3

I’ll examine a proxy server. The problem is though, using the Windows Server edition or even Linux won’t let the security software work. It feels like I’ve wasted my money and now I’m stuck trying to set it up as an endpoint. I did manage to make the machine act like a router with pfSense, but once installed and powered on I was confused about the setup and couldn’t install the protection. And yes… I planned to use this device as a capture card for gaming. If games don’t work through a proxy, then the whole plan falls apart. But I’m just trying to figure things out as best as I can with what Google lets me.

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Foongus0298
Junior Member
18
07-21-2016, 02:12 PM
#4
In my view, security tools often create more issues than they resolve. They can slow down downloads or interfere with games. As you mentioned, they seem built to protect a single PC. Even with a proxy server, which doesn’t require a full operating system, they probably won’t add much extra protection since they can’t track what other devices are doing. I use pfBlockerNG on pfSense with blocklists of known malicious IP addresses to offer some defense against hack attempts. In short, it’s usually best to accept the trade-offs and avoid trying anything else that might cause further complications.
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Foongus0298
07-21-2016, 02:12 PM #4

In my view, security tools often create more issues than they resolve. They can slow down downloads or interfere with games. As you mentioned, they seem built to protect a single PC. Even with a proxy server, which doesn’t require a full operating system, they probably won’t add much extra protection since they can’t track what other devices are doing. I use pfBlockerNG on pfSense with blocklists of known malicious IP addresses to offer some defense against hack attempts. In short, it’s usually best to accept the trade-offs and avoid trying anything else that might cause further complications.

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janrooijen
Member
205
08-01-2016, 02:51 AM
#5
Thanks for your understanding! I do have a gigabit connection, so I’m not worried about security software affecting my speed. As for the info, I’m still figuring things out and can’t extract much from the web easily. I’m open to learning, and having some protection is nice while I figure this out. =)]
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janrooijen
08-01-2016, 02:51 AM #5

Thanks for your understanding! I do have a gigabit connection, so I’m not worried about security software affecting my speed. As for the info, I’m still figuring things out and can’t extract much from the web easily. I’m open to learning, and having some protection is nice while I figure this out. =)]

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El_antignomos
Junior Member
4
08-01-2016, 04:24 AM
#6
Security software encompasses a wide range of functions, not just limited tasks. Also, Windows Defender handles some of these responsibilities, so relying on external tools might be less reliable.
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El_antignomos
08-01-2016, 04:24 AM #6

Security software encompasses a wide range of functions, not just limited tasks. Also, Windows Defender handles some of these responsibilities, so relying on external tools might be less reliable.

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slade0404
Junior Member
4
08-01-2016, 05:51 AM
#7
It's Bitdefender, for whatever you care about. The firewall and virus protection are the main features I value. Using a Bitdefender router doesn't seem to include a built-in firewall, according to my understanding.
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slade0404
08-01-2016, 05:51 AM #7

It's Bitdefender, for whatever you care about. The firewall and virus protection are the main features I value. Using a Bitdefender router doesn't seem to include a built-in firewall, according to my understanding.

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Sims4fun
Member
191
08-03-2016, 07:25 PM
#8
Consider this idea: You might be running Bitdefender in a way that differs from its original purpose, especially if it functions properly. Why would a product offer separate network and server solutions when they seem closely related? Try connecting the two computers—each with at least two Ethernet ports—and use ICS to share the link. While one PC is active, you can observe AV behavior to check for activity. Is a router truly a firewall?
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Sims4fun
08-03-2016, 07:25 PM #8

Consider this idea: You might be running Bitdefender in a way that differs from its original purpose, especially if it functions properly. Why would a product offer separate network and server solutions when they seem closely related? Try connecting the two computers—each with at least two Ethernet ports—and use ICS to share the link. While one PC is active, you can observe AV behavior to check for activity. Is a router truly a firewall?

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tl10zao
Junior Member
16
08-05-2016, 11:34 AM
#9
Yes, there are no firewall configurations in place.
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tl10zao
08-05-2016, 11:34 AM #9

Yes, there are no firewall configurations in place.

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Repertition
Member
186
08-09-2016, 07:06 AM
#10
Typically, the R7000 had a simple firewall, so I often needed to route ports around it. Using DD-WRT or Fresh Tomato expanded my control beyond what the default firmware allowed. Your Nighthawk already includes a basic firewall and traffic filtering through Bitdefender or Armor. What do you think this configuration contributes to your security beyond just adding layers?
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Repertition
08-09-2016, 07:06 AM #10

Typically, the R7000 had a simple firewall, so I often needed to route ports around it. Using DD-WRT or Fresh Tomato expanded my control beyond what the default firmware allowed. Your Nighthawk already includes a basic firewall and traffic filtering through Bitdefender or Armor. What do you think this configuration contributes to your security beyond just adding layers?

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