F5F Stay Refreshed Hardware Desktop It seems like your PC might be damaged. You should check for any signs of hardware failure or errors.

It seems like your PC might be damaged. You should check for any signs of hardware failure or errors.

It seems like your PC might be damaged. You should check for any signs of hardware failure or errors.

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seigneurZOZ
Member
126
05-21-2017, 04:17 AM
#1
I'm an idiot. I was looking to see what SSD I had, to upgrade it from 500GB to 1TB.
I saw a spare SATA cable plug/socket and decided to plug in an older 256GB SSD to see if it works.
I stupidly forgot to power down, so the PC was on when I plugged in the SSD drive, there was a spark when I removed the SSD from the SATA cable and then everything stopped.
Now it won't boot or do anything at all.
Are there any trip switches or fuses on the motherboard or the PSU?
The motherboard is a
MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX
and the PSU is a
Xilence 700w
There is no power that I can see going anywhere, no motherboard beeps of any kind, nothing at all.
The sata drive I plugged in still has functionality, I had to reformat it but it's still working.
I'm not sure about the drives in the PC as I don't have caddys to plug them into my laptop.
Any ideas would be really helpful thanks
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seigneurZOZ
05-21-2017, 04:17 AM #1

I'm an idiot. I was looking to see what SSD I had, to upgrade it from 500GB to 1TB.
I saw a spare SATA cable plug/socket and decided to plug in an older 256GB SSD to see if it works.
I stupidly forgot to power down, so the PC was on when I plugged in the SSD drive, there was a spark when I removed the SSD from the SATA cable and then everything stopped.
Now it won't boot or do anything at all.
Are there any trip switches or fuses on the motherboard or the PSU?
The motherboard is a
MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX
and the PSU is a
Xilence 700w
There is no power that I can see going anywhere, no motherboard beeps of any kind, nothing at all.
The sata drive I plugged in still has functionality, I had to reformat it but it's still working.
I'm not sure about the drives in the PC as I don't have caddys to plug them into my laptop.
Any ideas would be really helpful thanks

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JynxHype
Member
67
05-21-2017, 11:10 AM
#2
consider a brief paper clip PSU test; if it works, the issue is resolved.
if not: reset the CMOS on the motherboard using a jumper.
attempt to power it again.
if successful: try connecting only the CPU, cooler with fan, RAM, GPU, and PSU.
if still no response: ensure all power cables are securely attached.
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JynxHype
05-21-2017, 11:10 AM #2

consider a brief paper clip PSU test; if it works, the issue is resolved.
if not: reset the CMOS on the motherboard using a jumper.
attempt to power it again.
if successful: try connecting only the CPU, cooler with fan, RAM, GPU, and PSU.
if still no response: ensure all power cables are securely attached.

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AnnKa03
Member
120
05-22-2017, 07:06 PM
#3
So this is weird. I just tried plugging the power back in and turning it on (its been uplugged for about 2 hours)
and now I have power, fans running etc but nothing to the monitors.
The BOOT, VGA and DRAM 'easy debug' LEDs on the board are lit.
I'm not sure what that means or what to do about it.
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AnnKa03
05-22-2017, 07:06 PM #3

So this is weird. I just tried plugging the power back in and turning it on (its been uplugged for about 2 hours)
and now I have power, fans running etc but nothing to the monitors.
The BOOT, VGA and DRAM 'easy debug' LEDs on the board are lit.
I'm not sure what that means or what to do about it.

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Simon_303
Member
169
05-25-2017, 05:44 AM
#4
reset the cmos
attempting to access BIOS
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Simon_303
05-25-2017, 05:44 AM #4

reset the cmos
attempting to access BIOS

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Macalena
Member
66
05-25-2017, 11:00 AM
#5
attempted resetting the CMOS by taking out the motherboard battery for five minutes, but it didn’t help. Monitors also showed no activity, making it impossible to access BIOS. I also tried booting without connected hard drives and with just a single RAM stick, yet nothing happened.
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Macalena
05-25-2017, 11:00 AM #5

attempted resetting the CMOS by taking out the motherboard battery for five minutes, but it didn’t help. Monitors also showed no activity, making it impossible to access BIOS. I also tried booting without connected hard drives and with just a single RAM stick, yet nothing happened.

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Kool
Member
156
05-25-2017, 05:53 PM
#6
Reset the CMOS using a jumper.
Remove the motherboard battery for 5 minutes... then 10 minutes.
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Kool
05-25-2017, 05:53 PM #6

Reset the CMOS using a jumper.
Remove the motherboard battery for 5 minutes... then 10 minutes.

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GuidoPeq
Junior Member
6
05-30-2017, 04:48 AM
#7
It seems you only connected or disconnected the power cable, not the data cable, did you? (It doesn’t look like there’s a spare data cable in the box.)
The SATA power connector is meant to allow hot-swapping with different connector lengths. That’s not something I’ve ever attempted or suggested, but it’s possible your action might have led to this outcome.
I’d expect the PSU to be the issue here. It isn’t a well-known brand, so it likely wasn’t built for hot-swapping and something inside was damaged.
It would be best to swap in a better PSU and see if that fixes the problem.
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GuidoPeq
05-30-2017, 04:48 AM #7

It seems you only connected or disconnected the power cable, not the data cable, did you? (It doesn’t look like there’s a spare data cable in the box.)
The SATA power connector is meant to allow hot-swapping with different connector lengths. That’s not something I’ve ever attempted or suggested, but it’s possible your action might have led to this outcome.
I’d expect the PSU to be the issue here. It isn’t a well-known brand, so it likely wasn’t built for hot-swapping and something inside was damaged.
It would be best to swap in a better PSU and see if that fixes the problem.

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Regifloat
Junior Member
46
06-18-2017, 01:30 PM
#8
I attempted it without timing, but a duration of about five minutes would be ideal. Should I try again for a longer session?
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Regifloat
06-18-2017, 01:30 PM #8

I attempted it without timing, but a duration of about five minutes would be ideal. Should I try again for a longer session?

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trickster224
Junior Member
37
06-18-2017, 02:36 PM
#9
10 minutes to drain the battery and shut down the PC.
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trickster224
06-18-2017, 02:36 PM #9

10 minutes to drain the battery and shut down the PC.

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RedBoy002
Junior Member
31
06-25-2017, 08:19 PM
#10
The proper method for resetting CMOS is outlined in the mobo manual. Typically, short out two pins using a flat blade screw driver (while the PC is off and the PSU cable is unplugged). In my case, it doesn’t require removing the lithium battery.

A spark detected is sufficient reason to worry. It could indicate damage to the PSU or the motherboard, or possibly both. The motherboard might now be compromised. You may need to replace the motherboard and test each main component afterward.

In my experience, simply resetting the CMOS doesn’t resolve the underlying issues.
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RedBoy002
06-25-2017, 08:19 PM #10

The proper method for resetting CMOS is outlined in the mobo manual. Typically, short out two pins using a flat blade screw driver (while the PC is off and the PSU cable is unplugged). In my case, it doesn’t require removing the lithium battery.

A spark detected is sufficient reason to worry. It could indicate damage to the PSU or the motherboard, or possibly both. The motherboard might now be compromised. You may need to replace the motherboard and test each main component afterward.

In my experience, simply resetting the CMOS doesn’t resolve the underlying issues.

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