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Is your computer too outdated for an upgrade?

Is your computer too outdated for an upgrade?

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joepufo13
Junior Member
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06-08-2023, 04:25 PM
#11
If your budget exceeds £1000, don't upgrade your current system or purchase new AM4 components. Instead, transition to AM5 for a longer upgrade future. If upgrading isn't crucial, choose the cheaper option between Intel and AMD. You should be able to obtain a complete AM5 configuration with 1100-1200 wattage, including power supply (provided storage and case remain unchanged).
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joepufo13
06-08-2023, 04:25 PM #11

If your budget exceeds £1000, don't upgrade your current system or purchase new AM4 components. Instead, transition to AM5 for a longer upgrade future. If upgrading isn't crucial, choose the cheaper option between Intel and AMD. You should be able to obtain a complete AM5 configuration with 1100-1200 wattage, including power supply (provided storage and case remain unchanged).

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xCattyx
Member
196
06-13-2023, 08:21 PM
#12
AM5 will cost a lot more if you want good hardware, since the CPUs are pricier, the motherboards are expensive too, and you'll need DDR5 which is a bit more costly than DDR4. However, I wouldn't oppose this approach or choosing 13th/14th generation Intel if you can afford it, and you could manage it with a budget of around £1300. This might be feasible if you're prepared to stretch that money further, particularly if you also upgrade your PSU to a better model. Power supplies are the most expensive components I've ever seen for something worth purchasing today.
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xCattyx
06-13-2023, 08:21 PM #12

AM5 will cost a lot more if you want good hardware, since the CPUs are pricier, the motherboards are expensive too, and you'll need DDR5 which is a bit more costly than DDR4. However, I wouldn't oppose this approach or choosing 13th/14th generation Intel if you can afford it, and you could manage it with a budget of around £1300. This might be feasible if you're prepared to stretch that money further, particularly if you also upgrade your PSU to a better model. Power supplies are the most expensive components I've ever seen for something worth purchasing today.

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Flundi
Member
231
06-18-2023, 03:29 AM
#13
CPU:
AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor
(£213.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard:
Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 Board
(£229.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory:
ADATA XPG Lancer Blade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 RAM
(£105.44 @ NeoComputers)
Memory:
Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 RAM
(£110.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card:
Zotac Twin Edge OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Graphics Card
(£559.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply:
Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
(£79.98 @ Amazon UK)
Overall Cost:
£1189.38
Alternative Option:
£242.75
Price Comparison:
This model includes a PSU and the B650E board instead of the B650 unit alone (£229.99), making it a reasonable choice within your budget. It falls comfortably in the suggested range, offers additional features, and supports future upgrades to a more powerful CPU.
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2023-11-17 00:45 GMT+0000
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Flundi
06-18-2023, 03:29 AM #13

CPU:
AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor
(£213.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard:
Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 Board
(£229.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory:
ADATA XPG Lancer Blade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 RAM
(£105.44 @ NeoComputers)
Memory:
Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 RAM
(£110.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card:
Zotac Twin Edge OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Graphics Card
(£559.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply:
Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
(£79.98 @ Amazon UK)
Overall Cost:
£1189.38
Alternative Option:
£242.75
Price Comparison:
This model includes a PSU and the B650E board instead of the B650 unit alone (£229.99), making it a reasonable choice within your budget. It falls comfortably in the suggested range, offers additional features, and supports future upgrades to a more powerful CPU.
Generated by
PCPartPicker
2023-11-17 00:45 GMT+0000

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louieman2002
Junior Member
20
06-18-2023, 11:35 AM
#14
I would either follow your advice or stick with the existing motherboard and implement your initial build suggestion. My first build is notably more affordable, around 350 less, but it remains on the AM4 platform. I believe a 5700x chipset at 157 offers a substantial improvement over what he currently has, delivering performance very close to AM5 even at 1080p. The extra 80 fps beyond the base 250 might seem minor, but if it makes the difference between 70 and 100 fps, it could be worthwhile. It really depends on what you're running.
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louieman2002
06-18-2023, 11:35 AM #14

I would either follow your advice or stick with the existing motherboard and implement your initial build suggestion. My first build is notably more affordable, around 350 less, but it remains on the AM4 platform. I believe a 5700x chipset at 157 offers a substantial improvement over what he currently has, delivering performance very close to AM5 even at 1080p. The extra 80 fps beyond the base 250 might seem minor, but if it makes the difference between 70 and 100 fps, it could be worthwhile. It really depends on what you're running.

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SkyAceDivine
Member
208
06-18-2023, 12:30 PM
#15
I never, under any circumstances, buy or suggest an Adata product. It’s perfectly acceptable if it suits your needs, but I’ve encountered numerous issues with their offerings, and there’s essentially no way to confirm compatibility with that Ryzen setup unless that particular kit appears on the QVL database. Their support is unreliable when it comes to warranty claims. Considering how much Ryzen platforms tend to avoid certain memory options, it seems unrealistic for me.

Regarding my mention of not having a PSU, it’s evident I do have one. The main drawback is the higher cost—something the original poster has already pointed out might not be worth it. While the price difference between the 7600 and 5700X models is only about 2%, the overall cost increase is still significant. Still, the real issue here is identifying what matters most.

Are we aiming for major upgrades over the 2600x and RX580? If so, opting for a model like the 5600G—priced at around £109—could boost single-core performance by 25% and multithreaded performance by 30%, all while being half the price of some 7600 or 5700X models. But if longevity and overall performance are priorities, investing the full £1300 to get top-tier hardware makes sense, though we’d need your input to confirm this aligns with your expectations.
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SkyAceDivine
06-18-2023, 12:30 PM #15

I never, under any circumstances, buy or suggest an Adata product. It’s perfectly acceptable if it suits your needs, but I’ve encountered numerous issues with their offerings, and there’s essentially no way to confirm compatibility with that Ryzen setup unless that particular kit appears on the QVL database. Their support is unreliable when it comes to warranty claims. Considering how much Ryzen platforms tend to avoid certain memory options, it seems unrealistic for me.

Regarding my mention of not having a PSU, it’s evident I do have one. The main drawback is the higher cost—something the original poster has already pointed out might not be worth it. While the price difference between the 7600 and 5700X models is only about 2%, the overall cost increase is still significant. Still, the real issue here is identifying what matters most.

Are we aiming for major upgrades over the 2600x and RX580? If so, opting for a model like the 5600G—priced at around £109—could boost single-core performance by 25% and multithreaded performance by 30%, all while being half the price of some 7600 or 5700X models. But if longevity and overall performance are priorities, investing the full £1300 to get top-tier hardware makes sense, though we’d need your input to confirm this aligns with your expectations.

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radioredstoan
Junior Member
21
06-18-2023, 01:15 PM
#16
I didn't realize there was another list with one as your first, since the one you mentioned wasn't what I was comparing to.
I haven't encountered any issues with Adata memory (other than the ones they offer), but you raise a valid concern about AMD memory compatibility. It's an EXPO kit that matched my needs, though it wasn't listed in the QVL for that particular board.
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radioredstoan
06-18-2023, 01:15 PM #16

I didn't realize there was another list with one as your first, since the one you mentioned wasn't what I was comparing to.
I haven't encountered any issues with Adata memory (other than the ones they offer), but you raise a valid concern about AMD memory compatibility. It's an EXPO kit that matched my needs, though it wasn't listed in the QVL for that particular board.

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xPvP_LuckY
Junior Member
41
06-30-2023, 12:43 PM
#17
I believe the lancer kit is shown as compatible on the ADATA website.
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xPvP_LuckY
06-30-2023, 12:43 PM #17

I believe the lancer kit is shown as compatible on the ADATA website.

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Karowitoc
Junior Member
5
07-06-2023, 09:46 AM
#18
I’d likely enhance that build, making it easier to maintain and postponing the upgrade for several years. Your motherboard can handle a Ryzen 7 5800X3D, which remains one of the top gaming processors available. You could update your BIOS to the newest version and install one of the latest models. You might also switch your RAM from 16GB to 32GB, and consider getting an RX 7800 XT—offering more VRAM and slightly better performance than the RTX 4070 without ray tracing, all at a lower cost. These upgrades would deliver strong gaming performance for years to come, all under £900.

Below is the complete parts list, along with reviews for the RX 7800 XT and I7 14700K, which include comparisons for other components. I also added a review of the cooler and a rough estimate for the power supply.

[PCPartPicker Part List](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zxXL9c)

| Type | Item | Price |
|------|------|-------|
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Karowitoc
07-06-2023, 09:46 AM #18

I’d likely enhance that build, making it easier to maintain and postponing the upgrade for several years. Your motherboard can handle a Ryzen 7 5800X3D, which remains one of the top gaming processors available. You could update your BIOS to the newest version and install one of the latest models. You might also switch your RAM from 16GB to 32GB, and consider getting an RX 7800 XT—offering more VRAM and slightly better performance than the RTX 4070 without ray tracing, all at a lower cost. These upgrades would deliver strong gaming performance for years to come, all under £900.

Below is the complete parts list, along with reviews for the RX 7800 XT and I7 14700K, which include comparisons for other components. I also added a review of the cooler and a rough estimate for the power supply.

[PCPartPicker Part List](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zxXL9c)

| Type | Item | Price |
|------|------|-------|

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TNTJeb1
Junior Member
35
07-06-2023, 10:43 PM
#19
This seems to be a relatively new development, or at least something fresh compared to before. Back then, the Adata website didn’t offer a compatibility list for products like G.Skill memory configurator, Corsair memory finder, or Crucial memory advisor. Knowing this helps, because it’s one of the main reasons I usually steer clear of other manufacturers unless they specifically list their kits on the QVL for that board. Still, there’s another concern here—Corsair seems to have its own issues, even if not in the same way.

Adata tends to buy high-quality ICs during initial releases of a memory model or product, which usually ensures good reviews. They also provide compatibility information there. However, once they start switching products, they often use less reliable and less compatible chips, similar to Corsair’s approach, though for different reasons. That makes me cautious about trusting their offerings.
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TNTJeb1
07-06-2023, 10:43 PM #19

This seems to be a relatively new development, or at least something fresh compared to before. Back then, the Adata website didn’t offer a compatibility list for products like G.Skill memory configurator, Corsair memory finder, or Crucial memory advisor. Knowing this helps, because it’s one of the main reasons I usually steer clear of other manufacturers unless they specifically list their kits on the QVL for that board. Still, there’s another concern here—Corsair seems to have its own issues, even if not in the same way.

Adata tends to buy high-quality ICs during initial releases of a memory model or product, which usually ensures good reviews. They also provide compatibility information there. However, once they start switching products, they often use less reliable and less compatible chips, similar to Corsair’s approach, though for different reasons. That makes me cautious about trusting their offerings.

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Morvaxx
Member
153
07-07-2023, 12:29 AM
#20
The CX650 features a single cable equipped with two 6+2 pin connectors.
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Morvaxx
07-07-2023, 12:29 AM #20

The CX650 features a single cable equipped with two 6+2 pin connectors.

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