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New_air_games
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07-05-2016, 07:58 AM
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I haven't found any official confirmation for that claim. It seems to stem from leaks or rumors rather than verified information. This could be a promising chance to revisit the topic. Note: I recently checked, and reports suggest no workstation-level CPU leaks are emerging. The lower-end HEDT models appear unlikely to return.
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New_air_games
07-05-2016, 07:58 AM #11

I haven't found any official confirmation for that claim. It seems to stem from leaks or rumors rather than verified information. This could be a promising chance to revisit the topic. Note: I recently checked, and reports suggest no workstation-level CPU leaks are emerging. The lower-end HEDT models appear unlikely to return.

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skullman177
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07-12-2016, 07:13 PM
#12
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skullman177
07-12-2016, 07:13 PM #12

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07-12-2016, 09:22 PM
#13
Core counts aren't the sole advantage. I don't require an excessive number of cores. I'm interested in another 8 or 12 core HEDT just for performance gains. More memory channels are the biggest priority, and additional PCIe lanes always help. If Intel discontinues ECC support, that would be a nice bonus. Historically they've skipped it on consumer models. The Sapphire Rapids tile is more than sufficient for a budget HEDT range. AVX-512 support would be ideal, especially if they keep dual units like Skylake-X did, which could render all consumer CPUs with AVX-512 obsolete.
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katnissgirl115
07-12-2016, 09:22 PM #13

Core counts aren't the sole advantage. I don't require an excessive number of cores. I'm interested in another 8 or 12 core HEDT just for performance gains. More memory channels are the biggest priority, and additional PCIe lanes always help. If Intel discontinues ECC support, that would be a nice bonus. Historically they've skipped it on consumer models. The Sapphire Rapids tile is more than sufficient for a budget HEDT range. AVX-512 support would be ideal, especially if they keep dual units like Skylake-X did, which could render all consumer CPUs with AVX-512 obsolete.

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redbi15
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07-19-2016, 09:42 PM
#14
You're looking for alternatives to what's already available on desktop SKUs. While you don't need quad channel, the new faster sticks are arriving at lower prices. Next-gen systems will improve with DDR5 support. Honestly, it'll mainly raise your AIDA64 Extreme ratings—not much else.
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redbi15
07-19-2016, 09:42 PM #14

You're looking for alternatives to what's already available on desktop SKUs. While you don't need quad channel, the new faster sticks are arriving at lower prices. Next-gen systems will improve with DDR5 support. Honestly, it'll mainly raise your AIDA64 Extreme ratings—not much else.

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LuvmyKitty
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07-23-2016, 05:49 PM
#15
HEDT serves those requiring capabilities beyond typical consumer offerings. Avoid comparing it to everyday use scenarios. Its core counts and speed have grown significantly faster than its data-handling capacity. This isn't about Cinebench performance. Skylake-X received criticism from those who missed its purpose. In essence, my workload resembles Prime95 in function but with much higher FP64 demands. I need substantial FP64 precision and efficient data input. My 7800X (6 cores) outperformed any AM4 Zen 2 chip available then, particularly given the fragmented CCX architecture and slower instruction frequency that hinders data flow. DDR5 alone isn't sufficient. Simply adding more channels won't solve the bottleneck; doubling or exceeding it offers only marginal gains. AMD is focusing on cache placement rather than architectural improvements, though a vcache AM5 might work up to eight cores before performance plateaus due to instruction latency.
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LuvmyKitty
07-23-2016, 05:49 PM #15

HEDT serves those requiring capabilities beyond typical consumer offerings. Avoid comparing it to everyday use scenarios. Its core counts and speed have grown significantly faster than its data-handling capacity. This isn't about Cinebench performance. Skylake-X received criticism from those who missed its purpose. In essence, my workload resembles Prime95 in function but with much higher FP64 demands. I need substantial FP64 precision and efficient data input. My 7800X (6 cores) outperformed any AM4 Zen 2 chip available then, particularly given the fragmented CCX architecture and slower instruction frequency that hinders data flow. DDR5 alone isn't sufficient. Simply adding more channels won't solve the bottleneck; doubling or exceeding it offers only marginal gains. AMD is focusing on cache placement rather than architectural improvements, though a vcache AM5 might work up to eight cores before performance plateaus due to instruction latency.

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MrValioBg
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07-23-2016, 08:40 PM
#16
I've used multiple HEDT solutions across all Intel generations, water cooling options, AIO setups, and server air sinks. I likely owned more Intel HEDT than you do now. Don't assume speed based on past performance—your 7800X isn't as strong as a Zen 2 (3000). They'll all struggle with basic tasks except for specialized scenarios like AVX-512. Even then, it's just one scaler unit. My 7900X became useless compared to my 3900X, and it still performs better than that on the platform I use at 4450. You might want to explore AMD HEDT alternatives.
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MrValioBg
07-23-2016, 08:40 PM #16

I've used multiple HEDT solutions across all Intel generations, water cooling options, AIO setups, and server air sinks. I likely owned more Intel HEDT than you do now. Don't assume speed based on past performance—your 7800X isn't as strong as a Zen 2 (3000). They'll all struggle with basic tasks except for specialized scenarios like AVX-512. Even then, it's just one scaler unit. My 7900X became useless compared to my 3900X, and it still performs better than that on the platform I use at 4450. You might want to explore AMD HEDT alternatives.

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Akhylys
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07-23-2016, 11:42 PM
#17
AVX-512 performs well and Zen 4 offers more features. Keep in mind that not all tasks match everyone's needs.
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Akhylys
07-23-2016, 11:42 PM #17

AVX-512 performs well and Zen 4 offers more features. Keep in mind that not all tasks match everyone's needs.

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boarocket
Junior Member
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07-24-2016, 01:12 AM
#18
Well, honestly, the budget HEDT models have always been pretty unexciting. I owned a 7800, but the 7820 really stood out to me because it could reach higher speeds more smoothly. You brought up PCI-E ports, though—most of those are mostly from around 2017. The cards you mentioned, like drive controllers or GPUs, tend to be outdated now. Even then, a lot of these solutions were already fading (remember SLI and CF). Today’s boards focus more on compact M.2 drives built right into the heatsink, which is way more practical. My current setup uses an 8x8x8 board, which isn’t as powerful as my older HEDT, but it’s not bad. What I noticed is that low-end boards don’t always give you full access to all slots—you often end up paying for a high price without getting the best performance. That feels pretty frustrating right now. But back then, it was just disappointing when I tried advanced configurations with top Intel cards and the resulting chaos. I’m also testing a U.2 SSD alongside an M.2 slot on this board, and everything runs smoothly without slowing down the GPU on my Asus X570-WS. There are other AM4 boards with U.2 slots and some ECC support now, but AMD really streamlined things for the most part. A 3700X will definitely beat a 7600X, for example.
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boarocket
07-24-2016, 01:12 AM #18

Well, honestly, the budget HEDT models have always been pretty unexciting. I owned a 7800, but the 7820 really stood out to me because it could reach higher speeds more smoothly. You brought up PCI-E ports, though—most of those are mostly from around 2017. The cards you mentioned, like drive controllers or GPUs, tend to be outdated now. Even then, a lot of these solutions were already fading (remember SLI and CF). Today’s boards focus more on compact M.2 drives built right into the heatsink, which is way more practical. My current setup uses an 8x8x8 board, which isn’t as powerful as my older HEDT, but it’s not bad. What I noticed is that low-end boards don’t always give you full access to all slots—you often end up paying for a high price without getting the best performance. That feels pretty frustrating right now. But back then, it was just disappointing when I tried advanced configurations with top Intel cards and the resulting chaos. I’m also testing a U.2 SSD alongside an M.2 slot on this board, and everything runs smoothly without slowing down the GPU on my Asus X570-WS. There are other AM4 boards with U.2 slots and some ECC support now, but AMD really streamlined things for the most part. A 3700X will definitely beat a 7600X, for example.

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S1NS
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07-24-2016, 02:31 AM
#19
That’s a clear point of view. GPUs are designed to speed up specific tasks, often using parallel processing. They’re built for performance in areas like graphics and scientific computing.
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S1NS
07-24-2016, 02:31 AM #19

That’s a clear point of view. GPUs are designed to speed up specific tasks, often using parallel processing. They’re built for performance in areas like graphics and scientific computing.

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07-25-2016, 10:33 AM
#20
Specific mass compute vs general mass compute. I don’t remember using HSA.
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PigeonPlayer18
07-25-2016, 10:33 AM #20

Specific mass compute vs general mass compute. I don’t remember using HSA.

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