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Identify Intel stability problems or CPU/MBO failures?

Identify Intel stability problems or CPU/MBO failures?

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opticgunship
Posting Freak
815
04-25-2024, 08:03 PM
#1
Good afternoon, morning – wherever you are! I never imagined I’d need help, let alone be at this point. I recently installed a new PC for my wife about two weeks ago. It’s a 14700k XPG Lancer Blade with 6400mhz CL32, 2x16GB RAM, and an Asrock Z790 Riptide Wifi Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360 AIO XPX Core Reactor 850w. Gigabyte Gaming 4070ti Super Kingston KC3000 2TB plus NZXT H7 Flow. The strange behavior this machine is showing is the most unusual thing I’ve experienced in all my builds over the past twenty years. I have some experience, but I’m far from experts like buildzoid or Anthony from LMG. I did work with BIOS on MSI/ASUS boards before, and the last time I touched Asrock was during the Haswell era – Z87 Extreme 4. When I assembled it, I didn’t have time for BIOS updates because of the holidays. The system ran smoothly at first, though temps were higher than usual. But then everything started freezing, especially during character creation. Even basic checks like prime95 and memtest didn’t reveal anything. After a reboot, it never stabilized. I updated the BIOS to 10.x and 11.x from Asrock’s site, tried all troubleshooting steps – clearing CMOS, using default settings, even booting from a USB drive. Still, nothing changed. I ran memtest86+ to check for errors, but the images showed crashes. I disassembled the machine, replaced the Arctic cooler, and it cooled down. But the instability persisted. I attempted to install Win11 from a bootable USB, but it either froze endlessly or restarted itself. I also tried using a different RAM stick in another slot, but the problem remained. I’ve looked through many forums and threads, even disabled HT, which seemed to fix the memtest crash. It’s been working for about three hours now. I’m running some tests – if this is CPU or MBOO-related, I’m open to suggestions. I’d really appreciate any advice or a tip from someone who can help. P.S. I’ve tried iGPU too, but it works fine and shows the same results. Changing PLL settings didn’t help either. Thanks in advance for your time!
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opticgunship
04-25-2024, 08:03 PM #1

Good afternoon, morning – wherever you are! I never imagined I’d need help, let alone be at this point. I recently installed a new PC for my wife about two weeks ago. It’s a 14700k XPG Lancer Blade with 6400mhz CL32, 2x16GB RAM, and an Asrock Z790 Riptide Wifi Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360 AIO XPX Core Reactor 850w. Gigabyte Gaming 4070ti Super Kingston KC3000 2TB plus NZXT H7 Flow. The strange behavior this machine is showing is the most unusual thing I’ve experienced in all my builds over the past twenty years. I have some experience, but I’m far from experts like buildzoid or Anthony from LMG. I did work with BIOS on MSI/ASUS boards before, and the last time I touched Asrock was during the Haswell era – Z87 Extreme 4. When I assembled it, I didn’t have time for BIOS updates because of the holidays. The system ran smoothly at first, though temps were higher than usual. But then everything started freezing, especially during character creation. Even basic checks like prime95 and memtest didn’t reveal anything. After a reboot, it never stabilized. I updated the BIOS to 10.x and 11.x from Asrock’s site, tried all troubleshooting steps – clearing CMOS, using default settings, even booting from a USB drive. Still, nothing changed. I ran memtest86+ to check for errors, but the images showed crashes. I disassembled the machine, replaced the Arctic cooler, and it cooled down. But the instability persisted. I attempted to install Win11 from a bootable USB, but it either froze endlessly or restarted itself. I also tried using a different RAM stick in another slot, but the problem remained. I’ve looked through many forums and threads, even disabled HT, which seemed to fix the memtest crash. It’s been working for about three hours now. I’m running some tests – if this is CPU or MBOO-related, I’m open to suggestions. I’d really appreciate any advice or a tip from someone who can help. P.S. I’ve tried iGPU too, but it works fine and shows the same results. Changing PLL settings didn’t help either. Thanks in advance for your time!

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pocio77
Posting Freak
783
04-26-2024, 06:22 AM
#2
Based on my observations with a 14900K, the most effective approach is to keep everything at stock settings except: turn off XMP, disable underclocking for the P cores. My machine had two cores running at 6Ghz and others at 5.7Ghz. I adjusted the higher-frequency cores to match 5.7Ghz, which resolved the problems and confirmed CPU degradation. After a $25 shipping fee, the new unit arrived quickly. For the 14700K, I would lower all P cores to 5.5–5.6GHz, and if issues remain, reduce E cores to 4Ghz. If both adjustments fail, it’s likely not CPU-related. Also, occasionally, when changing core frequencies or toggling features, my first few boots might trigger a BSOD, though never afterward. Remember: after these steps, power down and restart 2–4 times—if problems persist, it’s almost certainly not the CPU.

Additional notes:
1. Earlier, with a failing PSU, I ignored a blinking GPU indicator light, thinking it was normal. Researching the GPU later clarified it was a known issue.
2. Power supply problems make it tough to pinpoint the exact cause, as they affect multiple components. When I addressed the PSU, I suspected RAM or CPU failure because random visual glitches appeared even with iGPU and extra RAM.
3. The new BIOS only prevents further harm; it won’t restore a degraded CPU. If damage is severe, replacement is the only solution, or you must tolerate reduced performance.
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pocio77
04-26-2024, 06:22 AM #2

Based on my observations with a 14900K, the most effective approach is to keep everything at stock settings except: turn off XMP, disable underclocking for the P cores. My machine had two cores running at 6Ghz and others at 5.7Ghz. I adjusted the higher-frequency cores to match 5.7Ghz, which resolved the problems and confirmed CPU degradation. After a $25 shipping fee, the new unit arrived quickly. For the 14700K, I would lower all P cores to 5.5–5.6GHz, and if issues remain, reduce E cores to 4Ghz. If both adjustments fail, it’s likely not CPU-related. Also, occasionally, when changing core frequencies or toggling features, my first few boots might trigger a BSOD, though never afterward. Remember: after these steps, power down and restart 2–4 times—if problems persist, it’s almost certainly not the CPU.

Additional notes:
1. Earlier, with a failing PSU, I ignored a blinking GPU indicator light, thinking it was normal. Researching the GPU later clarified it was a known issue.
2. Power supply problems make it tough to pinpoint the exact cause, as they affect multiple components. When I addressed the PSU, I suspected RAM or CPU failure because random visual glitches appeared even with iGPU and extra RAM.
3. The new BIOS only prevents further harm; it won’t restore a degraded CPU. If damage is severe, replacement is the only solution, or you must tolerate reduced performance.

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omniclean
Member
192
05-11-2024, 07:47 PM
#3
Please confirm whether to lower the P/E multiples with or without HT support. Also, note how quickly the system failed after just three weeks—this machine was solely for Sims 4/Skyrim and had no additional mods.
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omniclean
05-11-2024, 07:47 PM #3

Please confirm whether to lower the P/E multiples with or without HT support. Also, note how quickly the system failed after just three weeks—this machine was solely for Sims 4/Skyrim and had no additional mods.

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ghostface090
Junior Member
13
05-14-2024, 11:44 AM
#4
Using my 14900K without HT on/off settings hasn’t been a priority. If you can’t swap out the CPU but need it to function, HT might be worth a try. I haven’t used the old CPU every day for about six months after installation, so I’m unsure when any issues began—possibly right from the start or within the first couple of months.
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ghostface090
05-14-2024, 11:44 AM #4

Using my 14900K without HT on/off settings hasn’t been a priority. If you can’t swap out the CPU but need it to function, HT might be worth a try. I haven’t used the old CPU every day for about six months after installation, so I’m unsure when any issues began—possibly right from the start or within the first couple of months.

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seomilk77
Member
181
05-14-2024, 01:20 PM
#5
Disabled XMP settings, set P/E cores to 5.0/4.0 with HT off but no improvement—still can’t boot from USB after loading Windows, then restarting the PC. I’m testing different NVMe slots in another M.2 drive. Since I’m not a Linux expert, I’m wondering if creating a bootable Linux drive might help. -- Regarding PSU, I removed the 4070 and still face issues: Windows spins endlessly when loading, USB crashes after a few seconds, and restarting the PC. I’m hoping switching NVMe to another slot could work.
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seomilk77
05-14-2024, 01:20 PM #5

Disabled XMP settings, set P/E cores to 5.0/4.0 with HT off but no improvement—still can’t boot from USB after loading Windows, then restarting the PC. I’m testing different NVMe slots in another M.2 drive. Since I’m not a Linux expert, I’m wondering if creating a bootable Linux drive might help. -- Regarding PSU, I removed the 4070 and still face issues: Windows spins endlessly when loading, USB crashes after a few seconds, and restarting the PC. I’m hoping switching NVMe to another slot could work.

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SpaceButerfly
Junior Member
22
05-17-2024, 12:36 AM
#6
If underclocking the cores didn’t help, it’s likely the CPU isn’t the problem. The main boot issues only appeared when I pushed RAM overclocking too high, requiring a CMOS reset. If you’ve already reset your CMOS, consider testing with lower RAM speeds—like 4400 or 4200—since those are the options I’m aware of.
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SpaceButerfly
05-17-2024, 12:36 AM #6

If underclocking the cores didn’t help, it’s likely the CPU isn’t the problem. The main boot issues only appeared when I pushed RAM overclocking too high, requiring a CMOS reset. If you’ve already reset your CMOS, consider testing with lower RAM speeds—like 4400 or 4200—since those are the options I’m aware of.

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zackebacke
Junior Member
11
05-17-2024, 01:20 AM
#7
It previously worked smoothly at xmp without issues for two to three weeks. When testing with memory, problems appeared only when enabling xmp, while with HT active we got six clean passes in four hours. The memtest managed even without xmp, but after switching the NVMe slot it didn’t restart and kept loading the wheel.
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zackebacke
05-17-2024, 01:20 AM #7

It previously worked smoothly at xmp without issues for two to three weeks. When testing with memory, problems appeared only when enabling xmp, while with HT active we got six clean passes in four hours. The memtest managed even without xmp, but after switching the NVMe slot it didn’t restart and kept loading the wheel.

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nikolzgamingGR
Junior Member
18
05-17-2024, 02:59 AM
#8
Recent changes made to the NVMe slot. Loading for Windows setup began but then froze right after. Switched NVMe type and it worked similarly. No GPU present—just curious how memtest can run while the whole system freezes. Photos taken at 50x on P, 40x on E with HT off. I'm frustrated and almost think about installing a 1.45V fixed Vcore. After updating BIOS, the Vcore value fluctuates between 1.2 and 1.3—does that happen normally? Shouldn't it be stable in BIOS? It seems like a power supply issue might be the problem, though the 850W unit should work with the 4070TI Super and 14700K. I expect better stability when the GPU is removed.
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nikolzgamingGR
05-17-2024, 02:59 AM #8

Recent changes made to the NVMe slot. Loading for Windows setup began but then froze right after. Switched NVMe type and it worked similarly. No GPU present—just curious how memtest can run while the whole system freezes. Photos taken at 50x on P, 40x on E with HT off. I'm frustrated and almost think about installing a 1.45V fixed Vcore. After updating BIOS, the Vcore value fluctuates between 1.2 and 1.3—does that happen normally? Shouldn't it be stable in BIOS? It seems like a power supply issue might be the problem, though the 850W unit should work with the 4070TI Super and 14700K. I expect better stability when the GPU is removed.

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jdclay
Member
154
05-18-2024, 12:00 PM
#9
I recently experienced two Intel CPUs failing. One failed after just 1.5 months, and the replacement stopped working immediately. I tested them across four motherboards, two power supplies, and three RAM configurations. At Best Buy I switched to AMD. The Intel model that lasted longer was running on the latest BIOS, which likely prevented the failure. It seems either outdated CPUs are being sold as new or the Intel problem remains widespread.
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jdclay
05-18-2024, 12:00 PM #9

I recently experienced two Intel CPUs failing. One failed after just 1.5 months, and the replacement stopped working immediately. I tested them across four motherboards, two power supplies, and three RAM configurations. At Best Buy I switched to AMD. The Intel model that lasted longer was running on the latest BIOS, which likely prevented the failure. It seems either outdated CPUs are being sold as new or the Intel problem remains widespread.

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PC_Playz
Junior Member
3
05-19-2024, 05:45 PM
#10
I've noticed these issues on CPUs from Intel, where they trigger BSODs that resemble memory errors in a debugger. Other reports mention BSODs as well, but few have examined the dump files closely. Have you experienced any of these?
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PC_Playz
05-19-2024, 05:45 PM #10

I've noticed these issues on CPUs from Intel, where they trigger BSODs that resemble memory errors in a debugger. Other reports mention BSODs as well, but few have examined the dump files closely. Have you experienced any of these?

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