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For Intel 13/14 generation issues, consider a CPU with strong performance and good efficiency.

For Intel 13/14 generation issues, consider a CPU with strong performance and good efficiency.

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iiSweeTzz
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03-05-2023, 01:47 AM
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Prices have been revised, making the Ryzen 7 7700X a solid choice. The X3D processors remain useful longer because of their cache, though you might find a Ryzen 7 7800X3D at a similar cost if you're lucky.
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iiSweeTzz
03-05-2023, 01:47 AM #11

Prices have been revised, making the Ryzen 7 7700X a solid choice. The X3D processors remain useful longer because of their cache, though you might find a Ryzen 7 7800X3D at a similar cost if you're lucky.

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EmissaryZ
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03-06-2023, 01:08 AM
#12
I'm thinking about switching back to AMD because of the issues with the 13th generation. I haven't heard much about the i5 yet, but since I'm putting together a new PC, I don't want to rely on anything uncertain.
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EmissaryZ
03-06-2023, 01:08 AM #12

I'm thinking about switching back to AMD because of the issues with the 13th generation. I haven't heard much about the i5 yet, but since I'm putting together a new PC, I don't want to rely on anything uncertain.

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Tuxedo_Dog
Junior Member
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03-06-2023, 05:04 AM
#13
That's exactly what I think. Since I don't usually change my setup—my current build has been stable for seven years with no blue screens or issues—I don’t want to risk instability by trying a new configuration. It’s frustrating I can’t get the PC I wanted, but I’m hoping to keep most components and just swap the motherboard CPU.
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Tuxedo_Dog
03-06-2023, 05:04 AM #13

That's exactly what I think. Since I don't usually change my setup—my current build has been stable for seven years with no blue screens or issues—I don’t want to risk instability by trying a new configuration. It’s frustrating I can’t get the PC I wanted, but I’m hoping to keep most components and just swap the motherboard CPU.

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Kai4Christ
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03-13-2023, 03:33 PM
#14
I understand you're not looking to purchase it unless you're enhancing your current setup. I'd focus on the AM5 now. The decision really hinges on your core and thread requirements. The 7700 matches well in single-core performance compared to the 13600K, though it lags in multithreaded tasks. Photoshop tends to run on a single core, but this can vary based on your usage patterns and specific features. The 7900 offers balanced performance across single and multi-core configurations. The 7700 non-X and 7900 non-X models come with included coolers, whereas the 7700X and 7900X do not. I find the non-X 7900 impressive for its efficiency and strong performance across various workloads.
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Kai4Christ
03-13-2023, 03:33 PM #14

I understand you're not looking to purchase it unless you're enhancing your current setup. I'd focus on the AM5 now. The decision really hinges on your core and thread requirements. The 7700 matches well in single-core performance compared to the 13600K, though it lags in multithreaded tasks. Photoshop tends to run on a single core, but this can vary based on your usage patterns and specific features. The 7900 offers balanced performance across single and multi-core configurations. The 7700 non-X and 7900 non-X models come with included coolers, whereas the 7700X and 7900X do not. I find the non-X 7900 impressive for its efficiency and strong performance across various workloads.

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rosTRak
Junior Member
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03-20-2023, 03:38 PM
#15
The 7700 fits my budget, but switching to AM5 will increase costs for RAM and the motherboard. Should I really get that much performance boost with AM5, or should I stick with AM4? I don’t intend to upgrade in five years, so I’ll likely build a new system then.
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rosTRak
03-20-2023, 03:38 PM #15

The 7700 fits my budget, but switching to AM5 will increase costs for RAM and the motherboard. Should I really get that much performance boost with AM5, or should I stick with AM4? I don’t intend to upgrade in five years, so I’ll likely build a new system then.

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03-20-2023, 07:30 PM
#16
It shouldn't be that expensive, though it does vary based on the board and RAM you choose. The 5900 delivers strong performance for multithreaded tasks, while the 7700 excels in single-thread scenarios. For most everyday users—even with many workstation users—the need for single-core speed is greater than multithreading. An AM5 CPU usually covers the gap, but if you frequently wait for long multithreaded jobs (hours daily or weekly), a higher core CPU like the 5900 becomes more sensible.
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superdavideito
03-20-2023, 07:30 PM #16

It shouldn't be that expensive, though it does vary based on the board and RAM you choose. The 5900 delivers strong performance for multithreaded tasks, while the 7700 excels in single-thread scenarios. For most everyday users—even with many workstation users—the need for single-core speed is greater than multithreading. An AM5 CPU usually covers the gap, but if you frequently wait for long multithreaded jobs (hours daily or weekly), a higher core CPU like the 5900 becomes more sensible.

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__kekc__
Junior Member
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03-21-2023, 03:04 AM
#17
You can get the most for your money starting around 200, unless you opt for a used B650 with 16GB RAM. For a decent build, the cheapest options are around 130 with 32GB of 6000MT RAM, plus taxes. Switching to Zen 3 or a Z690 setup is better than just upgrading to AM4. Skip AM5 entirely—wait for Zen 6 or 7, since we’re unsure if Zen 3 will work on AM5. Also, using DDR4 will reduce performance by about 10%, as seen in your part picker data. It’s not worth it when Zen 3 is available on your AM4 board with DDR4.
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__kekc__
03-21-2023, 03:04 AM #17

You can get the most for your money starting around 200, unless you opt for a used B650 with 16GB RAM. For a decent build, the cheapest options are around 130 with 32GB of 6000MT RAM, plus taxes. Switching to Zen 3 or a Z690 setup is better than just upgrading to AM4. Skip AM5 entirely—wait for Zen 6 or 7, since we’re unsure if Zen 3 will work on AM5. Also, using DDR4 will reduce performance by about 10%, as seen in your part picker data. It’s not worth it when Zen 3 is available on your AM4 board with DDR4.

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psych0builder
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03-21-2023, 05:42 PM
#18
I’d likely hold off until the 9000 line arrives, preferably until the X3D is released, since the 7800X3D might become more affordable once the 9800X3D is available.
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psych0builder
03-21-2023, 05:42 PM #18

I’d likely hold off until the 9000 line arrives, preferably until the X3D is released, since the 7800X3D might become more affordable once the 9800X3D is available.

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ByrRoZz
Member
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03-23-2023, 07:49 PM
#19
If the issue is actually a fabrication failure or contamination in the fab, Intel faces a significant challenge in addressing the 13th and 14th generation problems. They can't just rely on a clean lab environment. Instead, they must halt production of the current generation and revert to older models. Their upcoming CPUs will need completely different chipsets and sockets, making a swift return to the previous generations unlikely. Given the substantial changes required, it seems improbable they will simply refund customers without a genuine effort to improve. Regarding the available CPUs, it's wise to wait for the Ryzen 9000 launch and review benchmarks. This could signal a major industry shift. Many major clients are switching to Ryzen, which underscores the urgency. The latest GN video suggests Intel is in a tough spot right now. I truly hope they resolve their issues promptly, replace underperforming units, remove unnecessary leadership roles, and regain competitiveness soon. If the next-gen Ryzen series truly becomes a dominant force, fair pricing will become much harder to achieve. I admire AMD's Ryzen lineup, but without strong competition, manufacturers won't feel motivated to match prices. It reminds me of Intel's past strategy before the 12th generation.
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ByrRoZz
03-23-2023, 07:49 PM #19

If the issue is actually a fabrication failure or contamination in the fab, Intel faces a significant challenge in addressing the 13th and 14th generation problems. They can't just rely on a clean lab environment. Instead, they must halt production of the current generation and revert to older models. Their upcoming CPUs will need completely different chipsets and sockets, making a swift return to the previous generations unlikely. Given the substantial changes required, it seems improbable they will simply refund customers without a genuine effort to improve. Regarding the available CPUs, it's wise to wait for the Ryzen 9000 launch and review benchmarks. This could signal a major industry shift. Many major clients are switching to Ryzen, which underscores the urgency. The latest GN video suggests Intel is in a tough spot right now. I truly hope they resolve their issues promptly, replace underperforming units, remove unnecessary leadership roles, and regain competitiveness soon. If the next-gen Ryzen series truly becomes a dominant force, fair pricing will become much harder to achieve. I admire AMD's Ryzen lineup, but without strong competition, manufacturers won't feel motivated to match prices. It reminds me of Intel's past strategy before the 12th generation.

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opus21
Junior Member
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03-23-2023, 08:53 PM
#20
I'm not upgrading my current setup. I intend to start fresh. The challenge was avoiding the 13600k as originally planned because of problems, opting instead to go back to Team Red for better stability. AMD isn't as strong in productivity tasks compared to Intel, but I'm okay with a slight performance drop if it means long-term reliability. After considering this, I'm fairly confident I'll build a new AMD system rather than sticking with the Intel plan. Now I'm weighing AM4 against AM5. I don't intend to compromise on quality—either the motherboard or CPU will be top-notch. The 7800X3D fits within my budget and I've heard positive feedback about it. I expect the 9000 series to become even more affordable, which would give me a better deal. However, I'm still unsure about the performance gap between the 13600k and the 7800X3D. The only certainty for the latter is its efficiency, though I don't have much insight on productivity workloads. Thanks a lot!
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opus21
03-23-2023, 08:53 PM #20

I'm not upgrading my current setup. I intend to start fresh. The challenge was avoiding the 13600k as originally planned because of problems, opting instead to go back to Team Red for better stability. AMD isn't as strong in productivity tasks compared to Intel, but I'm okay with a slight performance drop if it means long-term reliability. After considering this, I'm fairly confident I'll build a new AMD system rather than sticking with the Intel plan. Now I'm weighing AM4 against AM5. I don't intend to compromise on quality—either the motherboard or CPU will be top-notch. The 7800X3D fits within my budget and I've heard positive feedback about it. I expect the 9000 series to become even more affordable, which would give me a better deal. However, I'm still unsure about the performance gap between the 13600k and the 7800X3D. The only certainty for the latter is its efficiency, though I don't have much insight on productivity workloads. Thanks a lot!

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