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Exceeded the power allowance. The reason behind it remains unclear.

Exceeded the power allowance. The reason behind it remains unclear.

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Charliemc909
Posting Freak
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07-19-2018, 01:38 PM
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Hello. I faced some instability problems with my overclock and overall system. I wanted to begin anew, so I updated the BIOS before, as there are four newer versions available for my board. I managed to install the BIOS update successfully. I then ran Cinebench R15 tests using only XMP enabled to check everything was functioning properly. Initially, the first few runs worked well, maintaining 4.6GHz across all cores as expected. However, after a couple of runs, I observed my core clock throttling down to 4.2/4.3GHz. According to HWinfo, it reported "Power Limit Exceeded" for all eight cores. https://gyazo.com/060f6aaf5deb2fa2517b9c919f76e685 I understand that adjusting the long and short duration power limits in the BIOS might help. But my CPU is supposed to run at 4.6GHz on all cores by default, which includes Turbo Boost functionality. With a completely fresh BIOS, everything should be set to the stock configuration. Why is this happening? My specifications: i7-9700K, Asus Rog Strix Z390-F NZXT Kraken X72, Asus Rog Strix RTX2070 Corsair Vengeance RGB 3000MHz @ 16GB (2x8), Corsair RM750x. Best regards.
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Charliemc909
07-19-2018, 01:38 PM #1

Hello. I faced some instability problems with my overclock and overall system. I wanted to begin anew, so I updated the BIOS before, as there are four newer versions available for my board. I managed to install the BIOS update successfully. I then ran Cinebench R15 tests using only XMP enabled to check everything was functioning properly. Initially, the first few runs worked well, maintaining 4.6GHz across all cores as expected. However, after a couple of runs, I observed my core clock throttling down to 4.2/4.3GHz. According to HWinfo, it reported "Power Limit Exceeded" for all eight cores. https://gyazo.com/060f6aaf5deb2fa2517b9c919f76e685 I understand that adjusting the long and short duration power limits in the BIOS might help. But my CPU is supposed to run at 4.6GHz on all cores by default, which includes Turbo Boost functionality. With a completely fresh BIOS, everything should be set to the stock configuration. Why is this happening? My specifications: i7-9700K, Asus Rog Strix Z390-F NZXT Kraken X72, Asus Rog Strix RTX2070 Corsair Vengeance RGB 3000MHz @ 16GB (2x8), Corsair RM750x. Best regards.

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Bartekdwarf
Posting Freak
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07-26-2018, 02:29 PM
#2
It seems the motherboard might be limiting the CPU's power, possibly due to updates in the BIOS.
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Bartekdwarf
07-26-2018, 02:29 PM #2

It seems the motherboard might be limiting the CPU's power, possibly due to updates in the BIOS.

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MinaSG
Junior Member
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07-26-2018, 04:43 PM
#3
These issues are manageable and influenced by various parameters. When the CPU hits its capacity, it won't increase further. Similar restrictions apply to power and temperatures, which you can see in HWiNFO. Have you turned on MCE during BIOS setup? That helps bypass certain constraints.
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MinaSG
07-26-2018, 04:43 PM #3

These issues are manageable and influenced by various parameters. When the CPU hits its capacity, it won't increase further. Similar restrictions apply to power and temperatures, which you can see in HWiNFO. Have you turned on MCE during BIOS setup? That helps bypass certain constraints.

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Cake_Defense
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08-11-2018, 07:39 AM
#4
This isn't what I meant.
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Cake_Defense
08-11-2018, 07:39 AM #4

This isn't what I meant.

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Kavenoke
Member
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08-11-2018, 10:58 AM
#5
Everything defaults except XMP is active. MCE runs in auto mode, letting BIOS adjust settings. If MCE is enabled, it likely attempts to raise all cores to 4.9GHz when loading. You can achieve higher speeds than the expected 4.6GHz by running two Cinebench R15 tests, but the third one throttles due to power limits. The article you found explains that auto mode gives the board flexibility on reasonable performance and stability factors.
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Kavenoke
08-11-2018, 10:58 AM #5

Everything defaults except XMP is active. MCE runs in auto mode, letting BIOS adjust settings. If MCE is enabled, it likely attempts to raise all cores to 4.9GHz when loading. You can achieve higher speeds than the expected 4.6GHz by running two Cinebench R15 tests, but the third one throttles due to power limits. The article you found explains that auto mode gives the board flexibility on reasonable performance and stability factors.

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Link848
Junior Member
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08-12-2018, 04:57 AM
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I don’t recall the exact boost method Intel employs, but I think power limits are tied to runtime constraints. Boost likely stops after a certain duration, and any drop in performance might stem from power restrictions. I’m hoping the GamersNexus article helped clarify this—I’d love to locate it again if possible.
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Link848
08-12-2018, 04:57 AM #6

I don’t recall the exact boost method Intel employs, but I think power limits are tied to runtime constraints. Boost likely stops after a certain duration, and any drop in performance might stem from power restrictions. I’m hoping the GamersNexus article helped clarify this—I’d love to locate it again if possible.

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JusteLara
Junior Member
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08-13-2018, 03:41 AM
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The processor is expected to reach 4.6GHz with all eight cores active. During testing, it should maintain that speed in Cinebench R15. However, it throttles because the power limit is exceeded, causing the clock to drop. The reason for throttling under default settings isn’t clear yet.
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JusteLara
08-13-2018, 03:41 AM #7

The processor is expected to reach 4.6GHz with all eight cores active. During testing, it should maintain that speed in Cinebench R15. However, it throttles because the power limit is exceeded, causing the clock to drop. The reason for throttling under default settings isn’t clear yet.

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phoebegracemk
Member
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08-24-2018, 07:53 PM
#8
I am pretty certain there is a duration limit for all-core at 4.6GHz and it won't hold that indefinitely.
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phoebegracemk
08-24-2018, 07:53 PM #8

I am pretty certain there is a duration limit for all-core at 4.6GHz and it won't hold that indefinitely.

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beichner
Senior Member
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08-25-2018, 05:40 AM
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This article offers valuable insights: https://www.anandtech.com/show/14873/rea...metrics-/2
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beichner
08-25-2018, 05:40 AM #9

This article offers valuable insights: https://www.anandtech.com/show/14873/rea...metrics-/2

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FIRESK8ER
Member
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08-25-2018, 10:17 AM
#10
I haven't heard about that before. Right now I'm playing a game with 4.6GHz consistently—no throttling detected. It seems the performance gap between the game and Cinebench R15 comes from how data is sent to the CPU, which is why the power limit gets hit during Cinebench but not the game. I'll check the article you shared.
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FIRESK8ER
08-25-2018, 10:17 AM #10

I haven't heard about that before. Right now I'm playing a game with 4.6GHz consistently—no throttling detected. It seems the performance gap between the game and Cinebench R15 comes from how data is sent to the CPU, which is why the power limit gets hit during Cinebench but not the game. I'll check the article you shared.

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