Do you have any suggestions for new components to upgrade your system?
Do you have any suggestions for new components to upgrade your system?
When I first began, I also purchased an MSI GTX 1060 Gaming X 3G.
However, in Q1 '20 I upgraded my GPU to the MSI GTX 1660 Ti Gaming X 6G, which I still use today.
If it weren't for the annoying problem of Win11 not supporting my CPU, I would have continued using my current setup longer. Unfortunately, Micro$soft is requiring an upgrade if you want to run on Windows 11.
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This model stands at 159mm tall. The Thermalright coolers work perfectly.
Here are some recommended air coolers:
https://www.hepsiburada.com/thermal...te...00007GI3OB
Peerless Assassin 120 Digital,
https://www.hepsiburada.com/thermal...te...00008HGBO6
Peerless Assassin 120 (non-Digital) is priced the same as the Digital version,
https://www.hepsiburada.com/thermal...te...00006F0442
Either of these three options will suffice even for the R7 7800X3D.
I assumed this since only these two models have a 620W capacity PSU from Seasonic.
The M12II-620 EVO is actually a fully-modular version of the S12II-620. At that time, the S12II was considered the best group-regulated PSU ever produced, and I even used it for my initial Skylake build with an S12II-520 PSU.
But since I borrowed the PSU from my main build and running two systems on a single PSU isn't feasible, within about two months after purchasing it, I upgraded to a new PC case (Corsair 760T V2 Black) and a new PSU (Seasonic PRIME 650 80+ Titanium [SSR-650TD]), which I still use today. Its warranty remains intact, having been valid for 12 years.
If you also have a Seasonic PRIME PSU, you could continue using it. However, with the M12II-620 EVO, a new one is necessary.
I checked my stores but, without knowing your budget for a PSU, it's hard to recommend suitable options. But I thought you might appreciate a proper PSU selection list, so you can compare what's available in your area. Tier A would be ideal. Tier B+, such as Corsair RMe or Asus PRIME, could also work if better PSUs aren't within your budget.
Edit:
I found this: Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 750W. Tier A+.
Store:
https://www.hepsiburada.com/thermal...-s...magaza=TNT Teknoloji
This should fit your budget.
It's curious how much the price difference is between the tray version and retail or boxed CPUsāabout ā¬12 or so. Meanwhile, the 9800X3D CPU costs around ā¬500.
Your choice of PSU model and exact CPU will depend on your preferences.
IKR!!!!! Windows 11 and Microsoft got me. I bought a laptop for my sole work needs and it ran on Windows 11āat least it wasnāt too bad. On my desktop PC (used for gaming and fun stuff), I occasionally saw the upgrade prompt to switch to Windows 11, but I just ignored it. But when I heard that Windows 10 was being phased out, I figured it was time. The update process popped up and said: "Your system is too old for Windows 11, upgrade now you low socioeconomic peasant!"... That really hit me personally.
Also, after playing Expedition 33 and seeing my Warrior GTX 1060 struggle with newer titles, I decided to upgrade. So I went for a dealātwo for two.
I found a Lian Li PSU EDGE 750W Gold thatās actually quite affordable. After checking the list you sent, it got an A rating, and after some searching, itās the only PSU with an A rating thatās reasonably priced.
By the way, I really like this PSUāit looks pretty bad, but I love it. I might also get a double chamber case from Lian Li or maybe a standard mid-tower. Their design and prices are pretty good too.
Yeah, it's almost the same here.
I'm still confused about how my i5-6600K can't run Win11 even though I have an i3-8100. It seems like it has much more computing power overall.
Oh, I just tweaked my answer earlier.
Do you know if the Thermaltake Praetor 130 is in stock somewhere? It seems to be a better option than the Phantom Spirit Evo.
Thermaltake? "Praetor"? Did you intend Thermal Right Royal Pretor 130? Review: If yes, I verified the store's information and couldn't locate it there. Even if it existed, the price is quite significant. For instance, the Noctua NH-D15 G2 offers superior cooling at a lower cost compared to Royal Pretor 130, but at what expense? Cooling performance (higher is preferable), with prices at the official store; 226.3W - NH-D15 / 14999 TL 234.3W - Peerless Assassin 120 / 2221.77 TL 239.7W - Phantom Spirit 120 EVO / 3139.02 TL 243W - Royal Pretor 130 /? 243.5W - NH-D15 G2 /? Thermals: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/noctu...ler/6.html
Yeah that one... The "Pretor" is 50 dollars here compared to the phantom spirit evo which is also about 50 dollars. If they were the same price, it would make sense.
Everyone, thank you for your assistanceāit has been quite useful. I've chosen a few components and plan to buy them gradually. However, I still have some questions that I hope you can help with.
PSU:
I have two options that are nearly identical in price. The Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 750W and the Lian Li EDGE 750W Gold. Iām leaning towards the Lian Li since itās slightly more affordable, but Iām also thinking about the 850W version later. I believe the Lian Li offers a better look and additional features that made it more attractive compared to the Thermaltake. Still, regarding quality, Iām curious which one performs better and what your experiences are like. The design of the Lian Li is appealing, but I prioritize the durability over flashy aesthetics.
GPU:
Now comes a more personal question focused on real-world performance and results. Please share your honest opinion, without numbers.
As previously mentioned, Iām interested in the RTX 5060 Ti with 16GB RAM. The only two models Iām considering are the MSI Gaming OC and the Trio version (whichever is cheaper and available now). Before proceeding, Iād like to explain why Iām not leaning toward other brands.
Gigabyte: itās affordable for a reason... You get what you pay for.
Asus: they seem to have poor customer service lately and havenāt delivered quality lately.
Palit, Zotac, and PNY are not available here, but their images and unboxings suggest theyāre more budget-friendly.
Lower-end MSI options like the Ventus or Shadow are close in price to the Gaming OC and Trio. Thereās no compelling reason to choose them when thereās a 10-15% price difference between models.
Now, regarding the RX 9070 XT: itās another GPU tier. The Sapphire RX is significantly more expensive than the MSI RTX Trio, but I could wait a month or two for it. My main concerns are how it affects my gaming experience compared to the newer AMD cards.
The RTX offers features like DLSS and frame generation that AMD doesnāt have, but it also provides more raw power and "brute force" performance. On the other hand, Nvidia generally has better driver and software support. My question is: how would choosing a more expensive AMD card change my gaming experience? What benefits am I gaining and what drawbacks might I face?
Iāve played with an 1060 for the past ten years, so I donāt have a direct comparison. However, Iām open to considering 1440p in the future.
I feel like if I go with Nvidia, Iāll be missing out on a powerful GPU. But if I choose AMD, I might miss out on many features, even though I havenāt experienced them yet. I donāt want to spend a lot of money unnecessarily on one option.
Also, I noticed that prices in my region are high, especially with discounts or promotions. Thatās why I started doubting myself.
By the way, before you say so, the 5070 is not a good choice with 12GB of VRAM and costs more than the 9070 XT. The 5070 Ti does cost significantly moreāover 50% moreāand itās out of my budget.
Thanks for your help!
This one?
Specs:
https://lian-li.com/product/lancool-207/
If so, this doesn't happen:
Lian-Li L-shaped PSU is 182mm long,
specs:
https://lian-li.com/product/edge-gold/
While the Lian-Li 207 case supports PSUs up to 160mm. And since PSU is at the front with 90 degree rotation, the case itself, physically, isn't wide enough to house that PSU.
So, i guess that answers your PSU question. Unless you change the PC case.
But to answer your PSU build quality question;
In my 2nd reply, i linked PSU tier list.
Lian-Li Edge Gold is Tier A PSU. Solid, good quality unit.
Tt GF3, when ARGB version, is also Tier A PSU.
Tt GF3 non-RGB version, in the other hand, is Tier A+, great quality PSU. (The one i linked to you.)
Why do i get a feeling that you didn't read my 1st reply here, where i talked about RTX 5060 Ti 16GB vs RX 9060 XT 16GB?
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There i gave my opinion about both GPUs.
Unless you want to hear other folks opinions as well, other than mine.
For 1440p gaming, you need a new monitor as well, that can display 1440p. Something to keep in mind.
My perspective, I believe you're wrong. Check this video:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1xCss6yZbA
The person is using a 1000W Lian Li PSU with the 207 case and it fits perfectly. The main issue is the length of the cables, but after some research, they found a solution.
Yes, I also saved the GF3. Next week I plan to start purchasing slowly, checking which option is more affordable and offers installment possibilities.
As for the GPU, I followed your advice. Between the 5060 Ti and the 9060 XT, I'll choose Nvidia. But if you notice, I was talking about the 9070 XT, not the 60 version. That's why I asked for an opinion, since we're comparing two different tiers, and I'm particularly interested in the price difference.
And yes, I need a new monitor for 1440p. Right now I can't buy one, but maybe in a year or two I'll be able to. That's why I was wondering about the difference between the 5060 Ti and the 9070 XT (not the 9060 XT).
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Review of 1000W unit:
https://hwbusters.com/psus/lian-li-eg100...-review/2/
Keep in mind that only 1kW and 1.2kW models include the detachable USB hub. For a 750W model, youāll need to purchase it separately if you plan to use it.
RX 9070 XT is more suited for 1440p displays and doesnāt match up well with 9060 XT or 5060 Ti. A 5070 Ti would be a better fit. Overall, Nvidia still delivers stronger performance in comparison.
Source:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/sapph...se/35.html
Even for 1080p gaming, the RTX 5070 Ti generally outperforms the RX 9070 XT.
Key stats:
- 95.8 FPS - RX 9060 XT 16GB
- 106.2 FPS - RTX 5060 Ti 16GB
- 163.8 FPS - RX 9070 XT 16GB
- 171.5 FPS - RTX 5070 Ti 16GB
Source:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/sapph...oc/31.html
The decision really depends on your budget.
Based on your comments, the RX 9070 XT may exceed your financial limits, and you might not be able to afford it in the long run. Even if you manage to stretch the cost, you wonāt see significant gains with a 1440p monitor soonāonly a slight boost at 1080p.
Also, consider your current monitorās refresh rate. If itās 144 Hz or lower, youāre missing out on performance potential for the RX 9070 XT on 1080p. Your limitations are mainly tied to the monitor you own.
Power usage is another concern:
- RX 9060 XT 16GB: 160W
- RTX 5060 Ti 16GB: 180W
- RTX 5070 Ti 16GB: 300W
- RX 9070 XT 16GB: 304W
Running the GPU at 300W is already high, so Iād likely opt for a 850W power supply.
Personally, I wouldnāt push my budget further and would prefer the RTX 5060 Ti instead. It offers a much better upgrade compared to what you currently have.
Additionally, weāre uncertain about future trends. You might want to avoid a 1440p monitor (or lack funds for it) or go for a 4K display with a new GPU. By then, the RTX 60-series and Radeon 10000-series will be available, offering even better options for 4K gaming.