Discuss responsible and smart consumer habits, brand loyalty, and the 5800x3d concept.
Discuss responsible and smart consumer habits, brand loyalty, and the 5800x3d concept.
the 5600x matched the price of the 3600x when it first launched. the 5800x cost just over $50 more than the 3800x at its launch. the 5900x was only $50 higher than the 3900x originally. the 5950x priced equally with the 3950x at launch. if you’re upset about prices, look back at the original costs of similar CPUs from the previous generation. the 5800x3d is essentially a 105w processor—an older x370 would suffice, as it wouldn’t be overclocked. many buyers opting for the 12900ks for gaming might prefer a 5800x3d instead of spending on a more expensive system, since it’s more affordable and offers comparable performance. except, these models are currently less appealing, as both the 5800x and 5600x saw significant discounts, making them potentially worth the investment for better stock availability or improved performance. the price gap between the 5800x and 5700x is just $40, and between the 5600x and 5600 it’s only $20. I’m sure about this, even as a fan, focusing solely on AMD can be misleading. You’re concentrating mainly on AMD fans who see more recent examples. Some still insist on choosing an Intel CPU over alternatives when it might be better to skip that choice. If you already own a 3600x or B5/450, upgrading to a 5600x would likely be more cost-effective than selling your current setup for an Intel board. The difference in speed between the 3.0 and 4.0 generations is only 2-4%, which isn’t huge for most users. Most motherboards don’t include Wi-Fi, but if you need it, a dedicated card is usually the easiest solution. Bringing up PCB thickness now seems unlikely. If you have an older x370, your RAM might already be outdated. You’ll probably reach the memory limit before the board supports modern features. VRM efficiency is sufficient on boards with strong heatsinks, which is a well-established fact. Yes, the boards from this generation were subpar, but they weren’t completely useless—especially if you’re using a mid-range CPU.
It's still mostly a pointless addition if you're being honest. Most boards today or ever don't offer Wi-Fi at all.
I never mentioned pairing it with b550 boards. B550 boards are really efficient for the cost. Those older AMD models I’m having trouble with were much worse across all measurements. B550/X570 marked a big improvement. You keep referencing the 12700k/12900k—those aren’t the chips I recommend. It’s actually the 12700f. You can manage its power draw up to 65W and still handle even the 5900x/5950x single-core. The only competitor is the 5800x3d, which offers double the price but much lower performance.