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MrSuslik
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09-03-2023, 02:45 AM
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Using only 13 Ryzen 5 7600 chips, he clearly demonstrated how significant differences can arise even among identical processors. He emphasized that relying on a single CPU review—especially when comparing to other semiconductor products—is a flawed approach.
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MrSuslik
09-03-2023, 02:45 AM #1

Using only 13 Ryzen 5 7600 chips, he clearly demonstrated how significant differences can arise even among identical processors. He emphasized that relying on a single CPU review—especially when comparing to other semiconductor products—is a flawed approach.

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BrunoBross
Junior Member
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09-04-2023, 03:02 PM
#2
I've consistently stated that any percentage difference in single digits falls within the acceptable range. In short, two nearly identical machines showing a 9% gap in benchmarks for a specific part are still seen as performing similarly in my view.
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BrunoBross
09-04-2023, 03:02 PM #2

I've consistently stated that any percentage difference in single digits falls within the acceptable range. In short, two nearly identical machines showing a 9% gap in benchmarks for a specific part are still seen as performing similarly in my view.

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ali_303
Member
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09-05-2023, 07:19 PM
#3
Der8auer significantly boosted the CPU performance, pushing them beyond standard power constraints, effectively bypassing the default settings reviewers typically employ. Although I understand the importance of considering multiple review sources, I find this approach doesn't really support the claim. It highlights how overclocking can lead to unpredictable results in hardware testing.
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ali_303
09-05-2023, 07:19 PM #3

Der8auer significantly boosted the CPU performance, pushing them beyond standard power constraints, effectively bypassing the default settings reviewers typically employ. Although I understand the importance of considering multiple review sources, I find this approach doesn't really support the claim. It highlights how overclocking can lead to unpredictable results in hardware testing.

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Skulhead2a
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09-07-2023, 10:33 AM
#4
Many reviewers use PBO, which essentially means the same thing. Additionally, several boards allow features such as default power limits, making it reasonable to test in non-standard configurations.
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Skulhead2a
09-07-2023, 10:33 AM #4

Many reviewers use PBO, which essentially means the same thing. Additionally, several boards allow features such as default power limits, making it reasonable to test in non-standard configurations.

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khanna30
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09-12-2023, 10:26 PM
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Shxe
Junior Member
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09-13-2023, 07:13 AM
#6
And I believe anything at 9% or above falls well beyond the margin of error. If it were nearer to 2%, we'd be in for a different conversation. From my perspective, any difference of plus or minus 9% would be unacceptable, and such a part should not be sold. Of course, we need to establish our measurement standards for a proper discussion, but generally speaking, a variance of 9% or more is considered defective. That level is too broad for acceptable tolerances.
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Shxe
09-13-2023, 07:13 AM #6

And I believe anything at 9% or above falls well beyond the margin of error. If it were nearer to 2%, we'd be in for a different conversation. From my perspective, any difference of plus or minus 9% would be unacceptable, and such a part should not be sold. Of course, we need to establish our measurement standards for a proper discussion, but generally speaking, a variance of 9% or more is considered defective. That level is too broad for acceptable tolerances.

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JawsomeEvil
Junior Member
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09-14-2023, 05:03 PM
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This has been a consistent practice all along, not something introduced recently.
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JawsomeEvil
09-14-2023, 05:03 PM #7

This has been a consistent practice all along, not something introduced recently.

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malusdominus
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09-14-2023, 06:50 PM
#8
It seems uncertain whether this product is available since it's participating in an expo. This situation is concerning because there are no standard evaluations being conducted, making it hard for people to decide. It feels misleading because once sold, the manufacturer might deny any support or warranty.
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malusdominus
09-14-2023, 06:50 PM #8

It seems uncertain whether this product is available since it's participating in an expo. This situation is concerning because there are no standard evaluations being conducted, making it hard for people to decide. It feels misleading because once sold, the manufacturer might deny any support or warranty.

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Lipokily
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09-16-2023, 06:40 PM
#9
Sure, I understand. The 9% is acceptable for me.
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Lipokily
09-16-2023, 06:40 PM #9

Sure, I understand. The 9% is acceptable for me.

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ciberbrine
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09-16-2023, 07:05 PM
#10
derBauer noted that every difference he observed fell inside the acceptable range...
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ciberbrine
09-16-2023, 07:05 PM #10

derBauer noted that every difference he observed fell inside the acceptable range...

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