Building AdviceQuestions for a custom system
Building AdviceQuestions for a custom system
First off, I'd like to start by saying this is my first time ever posting here, and that my first language isn't English, so please, forgive any mistakes you see along this post.
I'm planning on getting a new PC and contacted a shop that builds custom PCs, in my area. My budget was more or less 1500€, for the build only, as I already have the rest of the peripherals.
Here's what they came up with:
https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/user/Nori133...iew=FV7DwP
The prices are the same as they are right now when I'm writing this, all from the same retailer,
PCDiga
With that said, I have some doubts and questions I'm hoping to get answered without the obvious conflict of interest of wanting more money from the client:
Isn't the RAM they chose a bit too slow? Maybe they were just saving on the budget but I think that a 3600MHz CL16 RAM would be their first choice. Something like
this
or
this
. Note that I specifically said that I wanted 32GB of RAM
I'm not aware of how good Kingston's SSDs are, but the one they picked seems pretty solid, especially when compared with WD's or Samsung's of the same price. Can anyone give their opinion on this?
I saw somewhere, someone recommending
PCBuild's bottleneck calculator
and I used that to see if I had a significant bottleneck between my CPU and GPU, and it turns out I have a 13% bottleneck in my system, whatever that means. With that being said,
I found it odd that they went for an RTX 4070, given that my budget is not insanely high (not that it is low), instead of a 30 series GPU, and trying to balance out the system a bit more.
Also on the topic of the RTX 4070, I'm afraid a 750W 80+ bronze PCU might not be enough or be risky to use given that the RTX 4070 supposedly draws up to 650W. Am I being paranoid or should I be safer than sorry?
Having these concerns in mind, and possibly some of your own that I'd love to hear, what do you think of the build they gave me? What would you change, if anything? Please keep my budget in mind and, if you want to recommend specific components, I'd appreciate it if you could use PCDiga's website as a reference (there doesn't seem to be an English version, so your browser's website translation tool ought to be enough), given that the prices between retailers are more or less the same here.
I'm aware that building a PC now might not be the best idea, given the fact that we're sitting on the transition between DDR4 and DDR5 and there's no backward compatibility between DDR5, which means that my upgrade path is limited to what's left of DDR4 compatible components. Either way, for this build, my approach is to get something that lasts years, for a moderate price, even if that means that I'll have to build a new one in 5-6 years. It might not make a lot of sense (I don't know if it does, I'd think this approach is person-dependent), but that's what I want to do, given my financial situation.
Edit: I'd like to add that I'm a noob when it comes to PC building. I only know what I've learned from my own research (watching YT videos) and even that is fairly limited, so please, don't go hard on me.
Edit 2: I've added my monitor to the pcpartpicker list seeing it might be relevant for this. I do not plan on going beyond 144hz 1080p any time soon.
Ignore that matter and never pay attention to that individual again.
Yes, it might help to know the reasoning behind their selection.
This configuration places you in a setup with improved air circulation, featuring a DDR4 3200 processor and an ATX power supply rated at 3.0 watts. The 120mm fan is integrated into the back panel of the case, serving as an exhaust unit.
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU:
*Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor
(€407.90 @ Globaldata)
CPU Cooler:
*Deepcool AG620 BK ARGB 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler
(€59.90 @ Switch Technology)
Motherboard:
*MSI PRO B760-P DDR4 II ATX LGA1700 Motherboard
(€139.90 @ Globaldata)*
Memory:
*G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory
(€78.50 @ Switch Technology)*
Storage:
*Crucial P5 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD
(€78.90 @ Globaldata)*
Video Card:
*Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card
(€549.90 @ Globaldata)*
Case:
*Fractal Design Focus 2 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case
(€74.89 @ Switch Technology)*
Power Supply:
*Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
(€111.81 @ PC Componentes)*
Case Fan:
*ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan
(€7.50 @ Switch Technology)*
Total: €1509.20
Costs encompass shipping, taxes, and applicable discounts
*Selected components chosen based on predefined parameters*
Generated by
PCPartPicker
2023-11-30 03:01 WET+0000
A closer inspection of these parts is recommended.
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B760...I/Overview
https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...-3...tions.html
https://www.deepcool.com/products/C...al...6082.shtml
https://www.crucial.com/ssd/p5-plus/ct1000p5pssd8
https://www.sapphiretech.com/en/consumer...-16g-gddr6
https://www.corsair.com/eu/en/p/psu...ul...9020262-eu
P12 PWM PST | 120 mm PWM Fan with Cable Splitter | ACFAN00120A | ARCTIC
ARCTIC P12 PWM PST | 120 mm fan optimized for pressure, PWM Sharing Technology for synchronized cooling, ensuring swift performance and timely delivery | Available at ARCTIC Store
www.arctic.de
https://www.fractal-design.com/products/...lear-tint/
For more details, see the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIG4vFQbDn4
The 5800x3d is a strong CPU, but it might be a bit unusual for a new AM4 system.
I’d recommend going with a CL16 3600 with 32GB in AM4 systems.
A better choice would be a B650e and an 7700 non-X, with the chance to add an X3D CPU later.
With that 4070 GPU, MSI suggests a 650W power supply; a 750W would be sufficient or an 850W just for extra power.
@Why_Me
I believe we might naturally lean toward Intel, since you often suggest the LGA1700 socket, but I personally don’t see it being significantly better than AM4 right now.
Can you accommodate an AM5 configuration within that budget without using a Ryzen 5?