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Building AdviceBottleneck or overkill with any of these?

Building AdviceBottleneck or overkill with any of these?

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PancakeReign
Member
59
03-25-2022, 01:17 AM
#1
Hi
I need to consider a complete overhaul:
Gigabyte Z370P D3
I7-8700K
RTX 3070
Two 16GB 3600mhz DDR4 RAMs
My goal is:
MSI PRO Z790-S WiFi Pro Series
I7-12700K
RTX 5070 (if I manage to get one)
Two 16GB 6000mhz DDR5 RAMs
I’m wondering if this setup is balanced or if something feels off?
4K gaming on a 65" QN90D at ultra settings, but I don’t want to focus too much on FPS.
Without the RTX 50 series, would I really see much gain with upgrading the motherboard and RAM? In short, can I afford the upgrade now? Also, I have a Corsair TX850 80 Plus Bronze and a spare RM750x.
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PancakeReign
03-25-2022, 01:17 AM #1

Hi
I need to consider a complete overhaul:
Gigabyte Z370P D3
I7-8700K
RTX 3070
Two 16GB 3600mhz DDR4 RAMs
My goal is:
MSI PRO Z790-S WiFi Pro Series
I7-12700K
RTX 5070 (if I manage to get one)
Two 16GB 6000mhz DDR5 RAMs
I’m wondering if this setup is balanced or if something feels off?
4K gaming on a 65" QN90D at ultra settings, but I don’t want to focus too much on FPS.
Without the RTX 50 series, would I really see much gain with upgrading the motherboard and RAM? In short, can I afford the upgrade now? Also, I have a Corsair TX850 80 Plus Bronze and a spare RM750x.

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powersheep
Junior Member
14
03-26-2022, 02:00 AM
#2
The GPU will be released in February. I recommend waiting to see the reviewer's feedback before deciding to buy, and postpone any major upgrade plans until then.
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powersheep
03-26-2022, 02:00 AM #2

The GPU will be released in February. I recommend waiting to see the reviewer's feedback before deciding to buy, and postpone any major upgrade plans until then.

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03-26-2022, 09:13 AM
#3
Yeah, that seems like a solid approach, but I'm not sure. I'm trying to make a tough decision here—forcing money might not be the best path. Instead, I could invest $400 now and save the rest for another month or two. It feels more manageable mentally.

But from a logic standpoint, what if the RTX50 series isn't up to par and I need a much better GPU? That would mean spending over $1000, so I might have to delay.

Also, the supporting parts like the motherboard CPU and RAM will need upgrades eventually this year. Right now, I don’t think going beyond the 12th generation makes sense for my needs.

Still, I’ll wait a month—it won’t hurt at all.
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willowengstrom
03-26-2022, 09:13 AM #3

Yeah, that seems like a solid approach, but I'm not sure. I'm trying to make a tough decision here—forcing money might not be the best path. Instead, I could invest $400 now and save the rest for another month or two. It feels more manageable mentally.

But from a logic standpoint, what if the RTX50 series isn't up to par and I need a much better GPU? That would mean spending over $1000, so I might have to delay.

Also, the supporting parts like the motherboard CPU and RAM will need upgrades eventually this year. Right now, I don’t think going beyond the 12th generation makes sense for my needs.

Still, I’ll wait a month—it won’t hurt at all.

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THEDOPETREX451
Junior Member
38
03-26-2022, 09:59 AM
#4
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU:
*
Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor
($139.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler:
*
ID-COOLING FROZN A620 PRO SE 58 CFM CPU Cooler
($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard:
*
ASRock Z690 Steel Legend ATX LGA1700 Motherboard
($135.00 @ Amazon)
Total:
$304.98
Costs cover shipping, taxes, and applicable discounts
*Selected lowest-priced items based on criteria
Created by
PCPartPicker
2025-01-30 02:36 EST-0500
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THEDOPETREX451
03-26-2022, 09:59 AM #4

PCPartPicker Part List
CPU:
*
Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor
($139.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler:
*
ID-COOLING FROZN A620 PRO SE 58 CFM CPU Cooler
($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard:
*
ASRock Z690 Steel Legend ATX LGA1700 Motherboard
($135.00 @ Amazon)
Total:
$304.98
Costs cover shipping, taxes, and applicable discounts
*Selected lowest-priced items based on criteria
Created by
PCPartPicker
2025-01-30 02:36 EST-0500

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kiekie
Member
64
03-26-2022, 11:13 AM
#5
The i7-8700 requires its first upgrade. The RTX3070 remains a solid choice. Z790 offers a decent platform upgrade, while 12700k is a reasonable CPU upgrade. You could potentially save money by purchasing a 13700k model. Due to concerns about the 13/14 generation, these processors are facing increased pressure. Updating your motherboard BIOS to the latest version and avoiding voltage adjustments will keep you safe. This should give you a clear understanding of the graphics requirements. If you don’t prioritize fast action gaming, you might not need a new card at all.
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kiekie
03-26-2022, 11:13 AM #5

The i7-8700 requires its first upgrade. The RTX3070 remains a solid choice. Z790 offers a decent platform upgrade, while 12700k is a reasonable CPU upgrade. You could potentially save money by purchasing a 13700k model. Due to concerns about the 13/14 generation, these processors are facing increased pressure. Updating your motherboard BIOS to the latest version and avoiding voltage adjustments will keep you safe. This should give you a clear understanding of the graphics requirements. If you don’t prioritize fast action gaming, you might not need a new card at all.

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rhyno747
Member
79
03-26-2022, 05:15 PM
#6
i prefer not to use amd, but comparing the rx 7800 xt to the rtx 5070 seems unlikely—prices are similar. however, nvidia might be out of reach for a while. used prices will likely stay higher than new ones, which is frustrating since amd is already better in some aspects. mixing amd into this discussion is confusing.
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rhyno747
03-26-2022, 05:15 PM #6

i prefer not to use amd, but comparing the rx 7800 xt to the rtx 5070 seems unlikely—prices are similar. however, nvidia might be out of reach for a while. used prices will likely stay higher than new ones, which is frustrating since amd is already better in some aspects. mixing amd into this discussion is confusing.

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TugaCarlos
Member
165
04-01-2022, 08:45 AM
#7
this setup looks solid for me. the asus prime z790-v supports 14th gen, has ddr5 up to 7200mhz, pcie5.0 x16, and three m.2 slots—no major issues for my needs. i’m considering adding two 16gb 6000 series units, which seems like a common choice. i’ll keep an eye out for good deals on 14th gen models, but i might wait for a 12th or maybe even a 13th if it fits. i have an i7 with k in it, and i’m comfortable with my current configuration of an 8700k, 32gb 3600ddr4 and rtx 3070. i’ll be fine with the new setup either way. why spend $450 on a cpu when i already have a solid 15th?
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TugaCarlos
04-01-2022, 08:45 AM #7

this setup looks solid for me. the asus prime z790-v supports 14th gen, has ddr5 up to 7200mhz, pcie5.0 x16, and three m.2 slots—no major issues for my needs. i’m considering adding two 16gb 6000 series units, which seems like a common choice. i’ll keep an eye out for good deals on 14th gen models, but i might wait for a 12th or maybe even a 13th if it fits. i have an i7 with k in it, and i’m comfortable with my current configuration of an 8700k, 32gb 3600ddr4 and rtx 3070. i’ll be fine with the new setup either way. why spend $450 on a cpu when i already have a solid 15th?

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3gilad3
Senior Member
735
04-01-2022, 12:49 PM
#8
When you're working with 4K even on a 5090, it's tough to tell much difference between CPUs. That's why they focus on 1080. It's unclear if this applies in extreme situations, like choosing between an 8700k and a newer CPU. If GPU prices were more reasonable, you might spend a bit more on the CPU just for the sake of it. With current GPU costs, you'd likely buy the best you can afford and then allocate the rest to a CPU.
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3gilad3
04-01-2022, 12:49 PM #8

When you're working with 4K even on a 5090, it's tough to tell much difference between CPUs. That's why they focus on 1080. It's unclear if this applies in extreme situations, like choosing between an 8700k and a newer CPU. If GPU prices were more reasonable, you might spend a bit more on the CPU just for the sake of it. With current GPU costs, you'd likely buy the best you can afford and then allocate the rest to a CPU.

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oinker69
Member
52
04-01-2022, 02:08 PM
#9
Thanks, yeah I placed the order for the ASUS board—it's top-notch, probably the best I've got.
I can borrow a 12700T from my office whenever I need it, so I think I'll spread out my costs and use this lower-end CPU for now.
I just came across a Kingston Fury Renegade DDR5 7200 chip for $87. That price won't improve anytime soon.
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oinker69
04-01-2022, 02:08 PM #9

Thanks, yeah I placed the order for the ASUS board—it's top-notch, probably the best I've got.
I can borrow a 12700T from my office whenever I need it, so I think I'll spread out my costs and use this lower-end CPU for now.
I just came across a Kingston Fury Renegade DDR5 7200 chip for $87. That price won't improve anytime soon.

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husker53
Posting Freak
802
04-08-2022, 01:27 AM
#10
the seller made an error when listing the ram for 87 dollars, canceled it immediately, and later relisted it at 120. there was a mistake in the address, and he asked to ship it to my old address, which seems like a typical scam tactic. i wasn't aware of that. he promised to wait a few days and lower the price, but i doubted him, thinking the low price might have been accidental.
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husker53
04-08-2022, 01:27 AM #10

the seller made an error when listing the ram for 87 dollars, canceled it immediately, and later relisted it at 120. there was a mistake in the address, and he asked to ship it to my old address, which seems like a typical scam tactic. i wasn't aware of that. he promised to wait a few days and lower the price, but i doubted him, thinking the low price might have been accidental.

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