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ARM serves as the processor for personal computers.

ARM serves as the processor for personal computers.

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Metal_Blox
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04-01-2020, 06:15 AM
#11
Explore additional details about these improvements. Linux often performs better on M systems compared to macOS, suggesting the performance gain comes from a well-engineered core with ample die space. The comparison highlights that speed isn't just due to hardware but also to thoughtful software optimizations. You can see this in action by compiling code on macOS and observing its efficiency versus Windows/Linux on x86 platforms.
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Metal_Blox
04-01-2020, 06:15 AM #11

Explore additional details about these improvements. Linux often performs better on M systems compared to macOS, suggesting the performance gain comes from a well-engineered core with ample die space. The comparison highlights that speed isn't just due to hardware but also to thoughtful software optimizations. You can see this in action by compiling code on macOS and observing its efficiency versus Windows/Linux on x86 platforms.

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XgAbYoP
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04-02-2020, 09:10 AM
#12
The benchmark highlights Apple's large cores as a sign of progress toward unified memory and seamless CPU/GPU integration. It seems the focus leans more on showcasing these trends rather than being strictly about ARM technology.
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XgAbYoP
04-02-2020, 09:10 AM #12

The benchmark highlights Apple's large cores as a sign of progress toward unified memory and seamless CPU/GPU integration. It seems the focus leans more on showcasing these trends rather than being strictly about ARM technology.

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PingMitte
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04-02-2020, 04:34 PM
#13
From a CPU perspective, it usually matches or exceeds the best x86 desktops and servers. Unified memory or the integrated graphics don’t improve these results. Apple has consistently delivered strong CPU designs.
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PingMitte
04-02-2020, 04:34 PM #13

From a CPU perspective, it usually matches or exceeds the best x86 desktops and servers. Unified memory or the integrated graphics don’t improve these results. Apple has consistently delivered strong CPU designs.

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BadMemory
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04-03-2020, 10:41 PM
#14
The high memory bandwidth in advanced chips like Apple's is a key benefit of their tightly integrated architecture. However, sacrificing much customization—such as with the Ryzen 'AI' processors soldered into memory—limits our ability to match ARM performance on desktop systems. While I acknowledge Apple's impressive figures, it's important to recognize that other design factors also provide them with significant advantages.
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BadMemory
04-03-2020, 10:41 PM #14

The high memory bandwidth in advanced chips like Apple's is a key benefit of their tightly integrated architecture. However, sacrificing much customization—such as with the Ryzen 'AI' processors soldered into memory—limits our ability to match ARM performance on desktop systems. While I acknowledge Apple's impressive figures, it's important to recognize that other design factors also provide them with significant advantages.

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Faustlacher
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04-04-2020, 12:13 AM
#15
Both M4 and Ryzen AI 300 utilize LPDDR5x memory. Clock speeds differ slightly—8000 versus 7500—but the memory architecture remains comparable. The higher memory bandwidth in larger chips supports multi-core performance, while single-threaded applications may still benefit from it. The bigger M chips offer more memory bandwidth and cores but also include a larger GPU.
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Faustlacher
04-04-2020, 12:13 AM #15

Both M4 and Ryzen AI 300 utilize LPDDR5x memory. Clock speeds differ slightly—8000 versus 7500—but the memory architecture remains comparable. The higher memory bandwidth in larger chips supports multi-core performance, while single-threaded applications may still benefit from it. The bigger M chips offer more memory bandwidth and cores but also include a larger GPU.

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ItsLuckySG
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04-04-2020, 12:47 AM
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The choice of ARM isn't about raw speed or power efficiency. Most everyday users don’t need to worry about the ISA used by a chip—it mainly reflects the designer’s intent. Strix Halo supports quad channel, but even a single core can handle high bandwidth if needed. Performance really depends on the workload; you can achieve near double speeds with enough memory bandwidth for data that crosses the LLC line. Running quad channel DDR5 could push us close to 20 GFLOPS in single precision, limited only by bandwidth.
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ItsLuckySG
04-04-2020, 12:47 AM #16

The choice of ARM isn't about raw speed or power efficiency. Most everyday users don’t need to worry about the ISA used by a chip—it mainly reflects the designer’s intent. Strix Halo supports quad channel, but even a single core can handle high bandwidth if needed. Performance really depends on the workload; you can achieve near double speeds with enough memory bandwidth for data that crosses the LLC line. Running quad channel DDR5 could push us close to 20 GFLOPS in single precision, limited only by bandwidth.

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X_the_king
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04-04-2020, 10:17 PM
#17
I'm working with a multi-platform finite element analysis workload to evaluate performance differences between ARM and x86 cores. Optimized math libraries are being tested on Apple's ARM64, Intel/AMD x86_64, and ARM's AArch64 architectures. This setup helps compare how each platform handles the same task using efficient code. Comparing the Apple M1 Ultra with Intel Xeon W5-3435X or Ryzen 7950X3D makes sense since they all feature 16 P-cores and were released around the same time. The CFD benchmark focuses on computation speed, while the other two metrics are memory-related.
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X_the_king
04-04-2020, 10:17 PM #17

I'm working with a multi-platform finite element analysis workload to evaluate performance differences between ARM and x86 cores. Optimized math libraries are being tested on Apple's ARM64, Intel/AMD x86_64, and ARM's AArch64 architectures. This setup helps compare how each platform handles the same task using efficient code. Comparing the Apple M1 Ultra with Intel Xeon W5-3435X or Ryzen 7950X3D makes sense since they all feature 16 P-cores and were released around the same time. The CFD benchmark focuses on computation speed, while the other two metrics are memory-related.

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