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Amusing X64 Windows experience

Amusing X64 Windows experience

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carlix
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08-11-2016, 09:43 PM
#11
64-bit Logitech Gaming Framework offers no advantage over the 32-bit version.
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carlix
08-11-2016, 09:43 PM #11

64-bit Logitech Gaming Framework offers no advantage over the 32-bit version.

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Ulrica_Seven
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08-12-2016, 04:35 AM
#12
It seems you're questioning the purpose behind something, but it's unclear what you're referring to. Could you clarify your question?
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Ulrica_Seven
08-12-2016, 04:35 AM #12

It seems you're questioning the purpose behind something, but it's unclear what you're referring to. Could you clarify your question?

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BatDogePvP
Junior Member
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08-12-2016, 03:18 PM
#13
He argues that many programs with both 32-bit and 64-bit versions perform similarly in terms of speed, features, or capabilities. The main reason people switch to 64-bit is related to the operating system itself, not the software. Certain applications gain advantages when running in 64-bit mode, especially those handling large amounts of memory (like video and photo editors) or dealing with encryption, encoding, and compression. Although Windows supports backward compatibility, allowing 64-bit versions to run 32-bit programs, the practical gains for most applications are limited.
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BatDogePvP
08-12-2016, 03:18 PM #13

He argues that many programs with both 32-bit and 64-bit versions perform similarly in terms of speed, features, or capabilities. The main reason people switch to 64-bit is related to the operating system itself, not the software. Certain applications gain advantages when running in 64-bit mode, especially those handling large amounts of memory (like video and photo editors) or dealing with encryption, encoding, and compression. Although Windows supports backward compatibility, allowing 64-bit versions to run 32-bit programs, the practical gains for most applications are limited.

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700club
Junior Member
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08-18-2016, 06:23 AM
#14
Did you forget anything in your message? Were you referring to an extreme performance improvement? Please confirm if I mentioned that. As you noted, RAM is just a minor difference. When a program has both 32-bit and 64-bit versions, you usually pick the 64-bit one because it likely needs more than 3GB of RAM or could gain from it later. The only part I added was that the improvements are more about future compatibility than actual speed. Why are you even asking this in a thread that already has a solution?
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700club
08-18-2016, 06:23 AM #14

Did you forget anything in your message? Were you referring to an extreme performance improvement? Please confirm if I mentioned that. As you noted, RAM is just a minor difference. When a program has both 32-bit and 64-bit versions, you usually pick the 64-bit one because it likely needs more than 3GB of RAM or could gain from it later. The only part I added was that the improvements are more about future compatibility than actual speed. Why are you even asking this in a thread that already has a solution?

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ripa5000
Posting Freak
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08-18-2016, 07:22 AM
#15
I’m sharing this because your perspective overlooks the reality of most software situations. In nearly all programs, there’s essentially no meaningful distinction between 32-bit and 64-bit versions. It’s not a marginal improvement—it’s a complete lack of benefit. Sure, performance might dip slightly for the 64-bit option, but that’s rarely noticeable in everyday use. Most applications will still run fine with either architecture, and the shift to 64-bit typically happens only after significant memory demands arise. People stick with 32-bit simply because it’s familiar, and it’s unlikely to change soon. By the time a program needs 64-bit support, it’s usually already been updated through several revisions. The focus shouldn’t be on tiny differences but on understanding what works best for your needs.
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ripa5000
08-18-2016, 07:22 AM #15

I’m sharing this because your perspective overlooks the reality of most software situations. In nearly all programs, there’s essentially no meaningful distinction between 32-bit and 64-bit versions. It’s not a marginal improvement—it’s a complete lack of benefit. Sure, performance might dip slightly for the 64-bit option, but that’s rarely noticeable in everyday use. Most applications will still run fine with either architecture, and the shift to 64-bit typically happens only after significant memory demands arise. People stick with 32-bit simply because it’s familiar, and it’s unlikely to change soon. By the time a program needs 64-bit support, it’s usually already been updated through several revisions. The focus shouldn’t be on tiny differences but on understanding what works best for your needs.

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molpi123
Member
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08-18-2016, 11:58 AM
#16
Your missing my point it seems. By better i do not mean performance wise (at least not in the general sense). Not upset im trying to understand why this debate is even occurring. Like u just mentioned there are cases where it will effect performance so therefore always go 64 bit... The poster i quoted said there was "no tangible way at all" for improvements, you just agreed with me saying some programs there is. Im just trying to inform people so they dont think oh look all 32 bit programs offer same performance as 64 bit. I have not stated anywhere performance is improved in every program. And you really haven't clarified anything just restating stuff that's already been posted-.-
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molpi123
08-18-2016, 11:58 AM #16

Your missing my point it seems. By better i do not mean performance wise (at least not in the general sense). Not upset im trying to understand why this debate is even occurring. Like u just mentioned there are cases where it will effect performance so therefore always go 64 bit... The poster i quoted said there was "no tangible way at all" for improvements, you just agreed with me saying some programs there is. Im just trying to inform people so they dont think oh look all 32 bit programs offer same performance as 64 bit. I have not stated anywhere performance is improved in every program. And you really haven't clarified anything just restating stuff that's already been posted-.-

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Sussu
Senior Member
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08-19-2016, 01:43 PM
#17
It's worth noting that the quote you referenced actually came from @DXMember. They mentioned acknowledging situations where 64-bit might be preferable, but also pointed out that they missed aspects like encryption, encoding, and compression—factors that can significantly affect performance. These are generally more relevant for specialized applications rather than typical software. It's important to remember that choosing 64-bit should be based on availability, not just future-proofing. Many programs lack 64-bit support simply because developers don't see a need for it. This is the core idea I was trying to convey. Often, people ask why so many programs remain 32-bit—because developers don't perceive a benefit. Eventually, this could shift, but we're not discussing long-term security here. The timeline for many applications is still years or decades away. Of course, there are instances where a 64-bit version turns out to be worse or more buggy than the original 32-bit, but that reflects poor development rather than the technology itself. Finally, I've tried to explain my points clearly, which helped clarify much of what was discussed in this thread. If you're still unsure, perhaps we're stuck at a dead end. Good day, sir.
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Sussu
08-19-2016, 01:43 PM #17

It's worth noting that the quote you referenced actually came from @DXMember. They mentioned acknowledging situations where 64-bit might be preferable, but also pointed out that they missed aspects like encryption, encoding, and compression—factors that can significantly affect performance. These are generally more relevant for specialized applications rather than typical software. It's important to remember that choosing 64-bit should be based on availability, not just future-proofing. Many programs lack 64-bit support simply because developers don't see a need for it. This is the core idea I was trying to convey. Often, people ask why so many programs remain 32-bit—because developers don't perceive a benefit. Eventually, this could shift, but we're not discussing long-term security here. The timeline for many applications is still years or decades away. Of course, there are instances where a 64-bit version turns out to be worse or more buggy than the original 32-bit, but that reflects poor development rather than the technology itself. Finally, I've tried to explain my points clearly, which helped clarify much of what was discussed in this thread. If you're still unsure, perhaps we're stuck at a dead end. Good day, sir.

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RigbyPT
Member
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08-21-2016, 08:30 AM
#18
Technically, the platform is x86_64, which corresponds to the instruction set employed.
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RigbyPT
08-21-2016, 08:30 AM #18

Technically, the platform is x86_64, which corresponds to the instruction set employed.

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StreetHobo
Senior Member
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08-21-2016, 01:18 PM
#19
Not sure how my post was interpreted, but to clear any confusion what I meant was - in cases where 64-bit is better, 32-bit just won't work. If 32-bit works and you still require 64-bit, then you probably don't need the 64-bit version or have a bug. when we say '32-bit' or '64-bit' we refer to the size of general purose registers - at least I do when we say x86 or x86_64 we refer to instruction sets
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StreetHobo
08-21-2016, 01:18 PM #19

Not sure how my post was interpreted, but to clear any confusion what I meant was - in cases where 64-bit is better, 32-bit just won't work. If 32-bit works and you still require 64-bit, then you probably don't need the 64-bit version or have a bug. when we say '32-bit' or '64-bit' we refer to the size of general purose registers - at least I do when we say x86 or x86_64 we refer to instruction sets

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