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A few beginner queries about going to school.

A few beginner queries about going to school.

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Bloodmate
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05-08-2023, 03:00 PM
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So I’m starting at school online via ECPI, aiming for a basic degree in Network Security. I’m halfway through my first semester and had some doubts about a recent assignment. As a newcomer to online learning, I know it’s not always easy—especially since this isn’t my first virtual class. We recently completed a research project on our career path and had to apply for jobs, answering questions along the way. The problem I’m facing is that most job postings seem to demand at least three years of experience, a bunch of unfamiliar certifications, and several years of training in specific skills. My question is: how do you actually land a job in this area when every posting starts with a minimum of years of experience? It feels like a confusing loop—you need the right skills to get hired, but you need hiring to gain those skills. It’s really confusing, and I’m not sure where this whole thing leads. I’d love any advice or insights someone can share, because from my perspective it doesn’t make much sense, and my course material doesn’t address these real-world expectations.
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Bloodmate
05-08-2023, 03:00 PM #1

So I’m starting at school online via ECPI, aiming for a basic degree in Network Security. I’m halfway through my first semester and had some doubts about a recent assignment. As a newcomer to online learning, I know it’s not always easy—especially since this isn’t my first virtual class. We recently completed a research project on our career path and had to apply for jobs, answering questions along the way. The problem I’m facing is that most job postings seem to demand at least three years of experience, a bunch of unfamiliar certifications, and several years of training in specific skills. My question is: how do you actually land a job in this area when every posting starts with a minimum of years of experience? It feels like a confusing loop—you need the right skills to get hired, but you need hiring to gain those skills. It’s really confusing, and I’m not sure where this whole thing leads. I’d love any advice or insights someone can share, because from my perspective it doesn’t make much sense, and my course material doesn’t address these real-world expectations.

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cal_gamer10
Member
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05-08-2023, 05:33 PM
#2
When the job market is tight, you face this challenge. You lack opportunities because you need experience, yet you need experience to get a job. This pattern applies across most fields. The safest approach is to apply for positions and possibly call ahead to clarify your background. Sharing your knowledge of networking, programming, and similar areas can make you a more attractive candidate. For networking careers, certain Cisco certifications are highly valued, particularly in the United States. Adding these credentials can help bridge the gap between your skills and employer expectations.
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cal_gamer10
05-08-2023, 05:33 PM #2

When the job market is tight, you face this challenge. You lack opportunities because you need experience, yet you need experience to get a job. This pattern applies across most fields. The safest approach is to apply for positions and possibly call ahead to clarify your background. Sharing your knowledge of networking, programming, and similar areas can make you a more attractive candidate. For networking careers, certain Cisco certifications are highly valued, particularly in the United States. Adding these credentials can help bridge the gap between your skills and employer expectations.

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AlpFG
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05-08-2023, 06:08 PM
#3
Job postings represent what the organization seeks, preferably. They choose the most suitable offers available. While some roles demand a master’s degree, many professionals in those fields don’t possess it. The final decision often rests with an existing employee during the interview stage. Of course, every company has its own approach, so research where you intend to apply. Another method to gain experience is through an internship. In the tech sector, these opportunities are typically compensated, as most people prefer paid work over free labor. It also creates a pathway for future internships if you enjoy the company and build a positive relationship, eventually leading to a permanent position after graduation.
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AlpFG
05-08-2023, 06:08 PM #3

Job postings represent what the organization seeks, preferably. They choose the most suitable offers available. While some roles demand a master’s degree, many professionals in those fields don’t possess it. The final decision often rests with an existing employee during the interview stage. Of course, every company has its own approach, so research where you intend to apply. Another method to gain experience is through an internship. In the tech sector, these opportunities are typically compensated, as most people prefer paid work over free labor. It also creates a pathway for future internships if you enjoy the company and build a positive relationship, eventually leading to a permanent position after graduation.

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juri1990
Senior Member
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05-11-2023, 06:20 AM
#4
Yes, there are several network security startups in the Valley.
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juri1990
05-11-2023, 06:20 AM #4

Yes, there are several network security startups in the Valley.

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DaanVerweij
Junior Member
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05-16-2023, 08:48 PM
#5
I was thinking about that, but I’d rather be in Colorado, not in California. My degree program might count as a couple of years or two of experience, right? It feels odd to them when everyone else agrees, but it seems like the point is just to say “experienced people only.” Probably means I’ll have to finish this 18-month program and then extend it to the 36-month version. Would that really boost my chances? I’m okay starting at the bottom, especially in a field where I have little or no background. I should mention ECPI’s class format—two classes each semester over five-week periods. This term was just one class because it was a basic intro, and next it’ll be another because it’s a refresher math course. Also, keep in mind that on monster.com, searching “Network Security” without a location gave only about 114 listings across the U.S., which is way fewer than what’s actually available, though most of them were mid-level to upper-level roles.
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DaanVerweij
05-16-2023, 08:48 PM #5

I was thinking about that, but I’d rather be in Colorado, not in California. My degree program might count as a couple of years or two of experience, right? It feels odd to them when everyone else agrees, but it seems like the point is just to say “experienced people only.” Probably means I’ll have to finish this 18-month program and then extend it to the 36-month version. Would that really boost my chances? I’m okay starting at the bottom, especially in a field where I have little or no background. I should mention ECPI’s class format—two classes each semester over five-week periods. This term was just one class because it was a basic intro, and next it’ll be another because it’s a refresher math course. Also, keep in mind that on monster.com, searching “Network Security” without a location gave only about 114 listings across the U.S., which is way fewer than what’s actually available, though most of them were mid-level to upper-level roles.

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1Duduzim
Member
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05-17-2023, 02:55 PM
#6
Seems like they’re leaning toward making cannabis legal in California too, if that’s what you were worried about. This region truly stands out as a center for cutting-edge ideas globally.
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1Duduzim
05-17-2023, 02:55 PM #6

Seems like they’re leaning toward making cannabis legal in California too, if that’s what you were worried about. This region truly stands out as a center for cutting-edge ideas globally.

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Cutie_Kitcat
Senior Member
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05-30-2023, 07:39 AM
#7
I understand the appeal of the weed culture, but I’m wary of any job that tries to micromanage personal time (that’s frustrating). With Cali, the main concern is gun laws—several of them seem unconstitutional, as a recent judge ruled. For me, the top priority is location: I don’t want to live in the suburbs or city, preferring 50 acres near mountains. An hour commute to the city isn’t ideal. Once you hit certain levels in networking security, remote work becomes possible, which would be a huge plus.
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Cutie_Kitcat
05-30-2023, 07:39 AM #7

I understand the appeal of the weed culture, but I’m wary of any job that tries to micromanage personal time (that’s frustrating). With Cali, the main concern is gun laws—several of them seem unconstitutional, as a recent judge ruled. For me, the top priority is location: I don’t want to live in the suburbs or city, preferring 50 acres near mountains. An hour commute to the city isn’t ideal. Once you hit certain levels in networking security, remote work becomes possible, which would be a huge plus.

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coolkillerny
Junior Member
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05-30-2023, 07:44 AM
#8
Having a degree might assist you, though I doubt it qualifies as experience. When they refer to 'experience,' they typically mean hands-on work. A useful hint for your job hunt. These roles are often posted under network or system admin positions. Unless network security has a different meaning here. As @GoodBytes mentioned: companies usually specify their ideal candidate, but they can't always get that and may settle for less. Also, consider asking locals in your area about small computer or networking gigs. Even if you only land occasional projects, they can still serve as references.
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coolkillerny
05-30-2023, 07:44 AM #8

Having a degree might assist you, though I doubt it qualifies as experience. When they refer to 'experience,' they typically mean hands-on work. A useful hint for your job hunt. These roles are often posted under network or system admin positions. Unless network security has a different meaning here. As @GoodBytes mentioned: companies usually specify their ideal candidate, but they can't always get that and may settle for less. Also, consider asking locals in your area about small computer or networking gigs. Even if you only land occasional projects, they can still serve as references.

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Ravenpolly
Member
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05-30-2023, 09:39 PM
#9
That's a valid observation. It seems ECPI offers valuable career support without cost. I’m hoping to earn a fair salary after graduation, even in a rural area with opportunities like IT. Are companies hiring from IT programs through events or recruitment drives? Right now I’m only familiar with basic security tips—changing passwords and avoiding suspicious links.
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Ravenpolly
05-30-2023, 09:39 PM #9

That's a valid observation. It seems ECPI offers valuable career support without cost. I’m hoping to earn a fair salary after graduation, even in a rural area with opportunities like IT. Are companies hiring from IT programs through events or recruitment drives? Right now I’m only familiar with basic security tips—changing passwords and avoiding suspicious links.

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keeger222
Junior Member
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05-31-2023, 05:56 AM
#10
Decide what activities you pursue during your free time. Plus, it makes sense to understand why you'd be upset about gun regulations.
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keeger222
05-31-2023, 05:56 AM #10

Decide what activities you pursue during your free time. Plus, it makes sense to understand why you'd be upset about gun regulations.

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