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7800X3D works well at standard temperatures alongside a Noctua D15.

7800X3D works well at standard temperatures alongside a Noctua D15.

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nerf101
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11-16-2023, 09:03 AM
#11
It doesn't really matter. The 7800X3D features a cache that acts like an insulator for the CPU, unlike standard chips or even the 9800X3D. This is why they were designed with limited overclocking in mind. AMD addressed the main problem with X3D CPUs by positioning the 3D V-cache beneath the CCD, using extra silicon around the edges to match the Core Complex Die dimensions for assembly. This setup formed an insulating layer that restricted heat flow. In contrast, the 9800X3D placed the cache die at the same size as the CCD but positioned it directly under the CPU substrate, allowing better cooling since it was larger and not insulated.
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nerf101
11-16-2023, 09:03 AM #11

It doesn't really matter. The 7800X3D features a cache that acts like an insulator for the CPU, unlike standard chips or even the 9800X3D. This is why they were designed with limited overclocking in mind. AMD addressed the main problem with X3D CPUs by positioning the 3D V-cache beneath the CCD, using extra silicon around the edges to match the Core Complex Die dimensions for assembly. This setup formed an insulating layer that restricted heat flow. In contrast, the 9800X3D placed the cache die at the same size as the CCD but positioned it directly under the CPU substrate, allowing better cooling since it was larger and not insulated.

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SorcererVevo
Member
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12-01-2023, 05:21 AM
#12
Without overclocking, your CPU is rated at 105W tdp and the Noctua D15 is rated at 183W dissipation. So, you should have some slack in case of hotter ambient temperature, bad thermal paste, dust buildup and other unexpected cooling hazards. As for overclocking, I never enable it (except for XMP RAM) because I don't think the reduced lifespan is worth the small increase in performance when it is done correctly. Even if you got thermal headroom, I think it is better to run cooler than to run faster. Have a nice day !
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SorcererVevo
12-01-2023, 05:21 AM #12

Without overclocking, your CPU is rated at 105W tdp and the Noctua D15 is rated at 183W dissipation. So, you should have some slack in case of hotter ambient temperature, bad thermal paste, dust buildup and other unexpected cooling hazards. As for overclocking, I never enable it (except for XMP RAM) because I don't think the reduced lifespan is worth the small increase in performance when it is done correctly. Even if you got thermal headroom, I think it is better to run cooler than to run faster. Have a nice day !

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nc432
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12-01-2023, 07:14 AM
#13
Same chip and Assassin IV look identical, possibly slightly cheaper at CO-20 with almost silent fans. This part can be well cooled using a paperclip.
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nc432
12-01-2023, 07:14 AM #13

Same chip and Assassin IV look identical, possibly slightly cheaper at CO-20 with almost silent fans. This part can be well cooled using a paperclip.

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1234qaz12qaz
Posting Freak
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12-14-2023, 10:56 AM
#14
what is CO -20?
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1234qaz12qaz
12-14-2023, 10:56 AM #14

what is CO -20?

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noahwl
Junior Member
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12-14-2023, 11:50 AM
#15
Curve Optimizer, included in PBO. -20 for all-core undervolting.
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noahwl
12-14-2023, 11:50 AM #15

Curve Optimizer, included in PBO. -20 for all-core undervolting.

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qabooch
Junior Member
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12-14-2023, 12:07 PM
#16
You're using it on Auto in MSI BIOS.
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qabooch
12-14-2023, 12:07 PM #16

You're using it on Auto in MSI BIOS.

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renliff
Member
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12-16-2023, 12:01 AM
#17
Auto for PBO is not working properly. It would help to research or watch tutorials before trying it out. If you prefer quiet operation, the tuning of the fan curve can make a big difference. With this chip and a large cooler, the fans shouldn’t spin faster than about 40-50% PWM at any moment, provided the case is well-ventilated and you’re not in a very hot environment.
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renliff
12-16-2023, 12:01 AM #17

Auto for PBO is not working properly. It would help to research or watch tutorials before trying it out. If you prefer quiet operation, the tuning of the fan curve can make a big difference. With this chip and a large cooler, the fans shouldn’t spin faster than about 40-50% PWM at any moment, provided the case is well-ventilated and you’re not in a very hot environment.

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EmilyRose_
Junior Member
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12-16-2023, 01:36 AM
#18
My CPU fan spins around 700 rpm during games. I wondered why it seemed to be running high since others claimed they achieved 73°C under stress tests with a Noctua D15. I questioned if my setup was causing the issue.
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EmilyRose_
12-16-2023, 01:36 AM #18

My CPU fan spins around 700 rpm during games. I wondered why it seemed to be running high since others claimed they achieved 73°C under stress tests with a Noctua D15. I questioned if my setup was causing the issue.

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AlmightyEag
Posting Freak
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12-16-2023, 03:05 AM
#19
Adjusting voltage can be useful, but since you're still under the tjmax limit (89c), it doesn't really change much.
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AlmightyEag
12-16-2023, 03:05 AM #19

Adjusting voltage can be useful, but since you're still under the tjmax limit (89c), it doesn't really change much.

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Ged_Merrillin
Member
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12-16-2023, 06:01 AM
#20
My performance ratings range from 68 to 76, which is considered solid. As for your future, it's hard to predict exactly, but with proper maintenance and upgrades, you can likely keep things running smoothly for many years. Planning on replacing your PC in five years sounds smart—just make sure to invest in a reliable build then.
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Ged_Merrillin
12-16-2023, 06:01 AM #20

My performance ratings range from 68 to 76, which is considered solid. As for your future, it's hard to predict exactly, but with proper maintenance and upgrades, you can likely keep things running smoothly for many years. Planning on replacing your PC in five years sounds smart—just make sure to invest in a reliable build then.

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