F5F Stay Refreshed Hardware Desktop 12400F plus H610 divided by B660 eliminates every other construction method

12400F plus H610 divided by B660 eliminates every other construction method

12400F plus H610 divided by B660 eliminates every other construction method

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12-09-2016, 04:08 AM
#11
They mentioned the video below and pointed out that Intel reached out to confirm it was an error in the slides. This aligns with the official specifications listed on each motherboard page, along with several conversations on other forums and Reddit where Intel addressed the issue.
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Awesome_Aaron_
12-09-2016, 04:08 AM #11

They mentioned the video below and pointed out that Intel reached out to confirm it was an error in the slides. This aligns with the official specifications listed on each motherboard page, along with several conversations on other forums and Reddit where Intel addressed the issue.

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manhunter4747
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12-09-2016, 04:08 AM
#12
I believe "obsolete" isn't the best choice. Other options remain superior, though they come at a higher cost.
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manhunter4747
12-09-2016, 04:08 AM #12

I believe "obsolete" isn't the best choice. Other options remain superior, though they come at a higher cost.

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Silvinha10
Senior Member
694
12-09-2016, 04:08 AM
#13
H610 operates with two memory slots on the main memory path (dual channel), yet it restricts the user from selecting a different channel for the manufacturer. This explains why only two RAM slots are available on those boards. I’m uncertain about whether mismatched modules are possible—like combining a 4Gb and an 8Gb device—or more importantly, whether such setups would actually work. The AMD hybrid dual channel concept seems unlikely here, probably reserved for future budget upgrades. The 12400F is expected to be more limited compared to i7/i9 models, but my main worry is the increased power demands on the VRM. Based on 10th/11th generation H-series chips, they’re known for throttling even with mid-range CPUs, and the 12th gen might introduce efficiency cores, though this doesn’t imply real efficiency—just like adding a small electric motor and battery to a powerful Lamborghini V12.
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Silvinha10
12-09-2016, 04:08 AM #13

H610 operates with two memory slots on the main memory path (dual channel), yet it restricts the user from selecting a different channel for the manufacturer. This explains why only two RAM slots are available on those boards. I’m uncertain about whether mismatched modules are possible—like combining a 4Gb and an 8Gb device—or more importantly, whether such setups would actually work. The AMD hybrid dual channel concept seems unlikely here, probably reserved for future budget upgrades. The 12400F is expected to be more limited compared to i7/i9 models, but my main worry is the increased power demands on the VRM. Based on 10th/11th generation H-series chips, they’re known for throttling even with mid-range CPUs, and the 12th gen might introduce efficiency cores, though this doesn’t imply real efficiency—just like adding a small electric motor and battery to a powerful Lamborghini V12.

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Grggles
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12-09-2016, 04:08 AM
#14
12100/F and 12400/F lack efficiency cores, but generally 12th generation power (big) cores perform better than 10th/11th gen. GamersNexus indicated that the single core in a 12100F is marginally more efficient than the 5600X, marking a significant leap compared to earlier Intel models. This advantage comes later than AMD's offerings, and it's likely short-lived since AMD AM5 may overtake Intel. Until mid-year, Intel retains the efficiency lead. The Asus Prime H610 VRM performs roughly 1.75 to 2 times better than the Prime B560, outperforming most other H610 variants and half of the B660/H670 models (at least according to specs).
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Grggles
12-09-2016, 04:08 AM #14

12100/F and 12400/F lack efficiency cores, but generally 12th generation power (big) cores perform better than 10th/11th gen. GamersNexus indicated that the single core in a 12100F is marginally more efficient than the 5600X, marking a significant leap compared to earlier Intel models. This advantage comes later than AMD's offerings, and it's likely short-lived since AMD AM5 may overtake Intel. Until mid-year, Intel retains the efficiency lead. The Asus Prime H610 VRM performs roughly 1.75 to 2 times better than the Prime B560, outperforming most other H610 variants and half of the B660/H670 models (at least according to specs).

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Caribbean_Blue
Senior Member
609
12-09-2016, 04:08 AM
#15
You recently purchased this bundle for $462.03 in CAD including shipping. I’ll note my personal reference points later.
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Caribbean_Blue
12-09-2016, 04:08 AM #15

You recently purchased this bundle for $462.03 in CAD including shipping. I’ll note my personal reference points later.

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Ferri
Junior Member
17
12-09-2016, 04:08 AM
#16
One things I noticed from GamersNexus video is that there's an error with the (not currently official listed) Gigabyte B660 DS3H DDR4 lineup, as on geizhals the VRMs don't seem to match what's on the official site (that's not completely out of the ordinary before the board gets actual prices), but still unfortunate. https://geizhals.eu/gigabyte-b660-ds3h-d...61685.html https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B66...-rev-10#kf This makes this Gigabyte board really interesting for the price. And also we really need a test, or someone to take a detailed look on those Asus Prime H610s. If geizhals made a mistake on the VRMs data, the Primes might not be as good (which is irrelevant for 12100/12400, but might deflate my dreams of 12600/12700 on H610 xD) Here's a video of the 12400F and the the cheapeast H610 with the worst VRM on the market, and the conclusion is, no throttling. Granted a more detailed test from HardwareUnboxed would be better (as the board might be doing high temps on the VRMs) but this is a good a showing:
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Ferri
12-09-2016, 04:08 AM #16

One things I noticed from GamersNexus video is that there's an error with the (not currently official listed) Gigabyte B660 DS3H DDR4 lineup, as on geizhals the VRMs don't seem to match what's on the official site (that's not completely out of the ordinary before the board gets actual prices), but still unfortunate. https://geizhals.eu/gigabyte-b660-ds3h-d...61685.html https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B66...-rev-10#kf This makes this Gigabyte board really interesting for the price. And also we really need a test, or someone to take a detailed look on those Asus Prime H610s. If geizhals made a mistake on the VRMs data, the Primes might not be as good (which is irrelevant for 12100/12400, but might deflate my dreams of 12600/12700 on H610 xD) Here's a video of the 12400F and the the cheapeast H610 with the worst VRM on the market, and the conclusion is, no throttling. Granted a more detailed test from HardwareUnboxed would be better (as the board might be doing high temps on the VRMs) but this is a good a showing:

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Sismicgamer
Junior Member
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12-09-2016, 04:08 AM
#17
I also discovered a 12100+H610M-K model that performs exceptionally well, delivering 40W in PUBG. The 12100/12100F configuration can handle nearly any device. As demonstrated in the video, XMP supports both H610 models. A 3000MHz or 3200MHz setup with timing options like 15-16-16 or 16-18-18 will be highly effective.
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Sismicgamer
12-09-2016, 04:08 AM #17

I also discovered a 12100+H610M-K model that performs exceptionally well, delivering 40W in PUBG. The 12100/12100F configuration can handle nearly any device. As demonstrated in the video, XMP supports both H610 models. A 3000MHz or 3200MHz setup with timing options like 15-16-16 or 16-18-18 will be highly effective.

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Kev67824
Member
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12-09-2016, 04:08 AM
#18
Hey, everything looks fine. Is there any VRM throttling on the H610M-K or other problems affecting your 12400F full performance? I'm also thinking about getting this setup.
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Kev67824
12-09-2016, 04:08 AM #18

Hey, everything looks fine. Is there any VRM throttling on the H610M-K or other problems affecting your 12400F full performance? I'm also thinking about getting this setup.

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AsianAddict
Junior Member
39
12-09-2016, 04:08 AM
#19
The new CPU will be assembled later this evening. Looking for ways to check if VRM throttling is happening.
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AsianAddict
12-09-2016, 04:08 AM #19

The new CPU will be assembled later this evening. Looking for ways to check if VRM throttling is happening.

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mustangtamer
Junior Member
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12-09-2016, 04:08 AM
#20
Perform a prolonged heavy workload such as Cinebench for an extended duration (e.g., 30 minutes or more) to observe any decline in frequency or potential system failure.
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mustangtamer
12-09-2016, 04:08 AM #20

Perform a prolonged heavy workload such as Cinebench for an extended duration (e.g., 30 minutes or more) to observe any decline in frequency or potential system failure.

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