F5F Stay Refreshed Hardware Desktop 12400F plus H610 divided by B660 eliminates every other construction method

12400F plus H610 divided by B660 eliminates every other construction method

12400F plus H610 divided by B660 eliminates every other construction method

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iTzDMaR_
Junior Member
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12-09-2016, 04:08 AM
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Here’s a rephrased version of your text:

This setup combines the 12400F (180 EUR) and ASUS Prime H610M-A D4 (105 EUR), paired with Crucial 3000MHz 15-15-16, a motherboard featuring two M.2 slots plus a VRM heatsink, PCI-E 4.0 support, dual-channel RAM, and a Wi-Fi slot. It stands out as one of only two CPU+motherboard+RAM setups that truly fits the top-tier best-buy list—alongside another option: 12400F (180 EUR) with ASUS Prime B660M-K D4 (129 EUR), Crucial 3600MHz 16-18-18, and a motherboard supporting PCi-E 4.0 M.2 SSDs plus memory overclocking. This configuration not only meets the 5600x standard but also outperforms it slightly in low-end scenarios, while being more energy-efficient than AMD options (per current tests—though Steve’s validation is still needed). It matches 1080p at 240Hz within a 10% margin and uses less power than comparable AMD or Intel chips.

Additionally, consider the optional Arctic Freezer i13 X tray version for 15 EUR if you want quieter operation and better thermal performance. Pair it with Kioxia Exceria 500GB M.2 NVMe (42-46 EUR), which offers solid speeds and fits well under 600 EUR depending on your power supply and case choices.

Your total could range from around 535 EUR for the H610 or 565 EUR for the B660, depending on your PSU and case selection. You’re getting excellent value for high performance, especially if you skip the stock cooler and opt for a quiet case like the SilentiumPC Ventum VT4V TG (55 EUR).

For even lower costs, you can go with budget-friendly Intel or AMD CPUs—like the ARC A370/A380 or 6500 XT for under 200 EUR—and pair them with affordable PSUs and cases. Even then, you’ll still be getting solid gaming performance at 1080p until late summer.

Avoid generic Seasonic units; they often lack the necessary cooling and features. This combination gives you a great balance of power, efficiency, and price.
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iTzDMaR_
12-09-2016, 04:08 AM #1

Here’s a rephrased version of your text:

This setup combines the 12400F (180 EUR) and ASUS Prime H610M-A D4 (105 EUR), paired with Crucial 3000MHz 15-15-16, a motherboard featuring two M.2 slots plus a VRM heatsink, PCI-E 4.0 support, dual-channel RAM, and a Wi-Fi slot. It stands out as one of only two CPU+motherboard+RAM setups that truly fits the top-tier best-buy list—alongside another option: 12400F (180 EUR) with ASUS Prime B660M-K D4 (129 EUR), Crucial 3600MHz 16-18-18, and a motherboard supporting PCi-E 4.0 M.2 SSDs plus memory overclocking. This configuration not only meets the 5600x standard but also outperforms it slightly in low-end scenarios, while being more energy-efficient than AMD options (per current tests—though Steve’s validation is still needed). It matches 1080p at 240Hz within a 10% margin and uses less power than comparable AMD or Intel chips.

Additionally, consider the optional Arctic Freezer i13 X tray version for 15 EUR if you want quieter operation and better thermal performance. Pair it with Kioxia Exceria 500GB M.2 NVMe (42-46 EUR), which offers solid speeds and fits well under 600 EUR depending on your power supply and case choices.

Your total could range from around 535 EUR for the H610 or 565 EUR for the B660, depending on your PSU and case selection. You’re getting excellent value for high performance, especially if you skip the stock cooler and opt for a quiet case like the SilentiumPC Ventum VT4V TG (55 EUR).

For even lower costs, you can go with budget-friendly Intel or AMD CPUs—like the ARC A370/A380 or 6500 XT for under 200 EUR—and pair them with affordable PSUs and cases. Even then, you’ll still be getting solid gaming performance at 1080p until late summer.

Avoid generic Seasonic units; they often lack the necessary cooling and features. This combination gives you a great balance of power, efficiency, and price.

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lalaloopsy89
Junior Member
47
12-09-2016, 04:08 AM
#2
H610 is limited to one memory channel. Dual-channel RAM is not supported.
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lalaloopsy89
12-09-2016, 04:08 AM #2

H610 is limited to one memory channel. Dual-channel RAM is not supported.

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Tucker1313
Junior Member
18
12-09-2016, 04:08 AM
#3
On top of all of this with 12100/12400F + H610 supporting 3200 MHz memory, and Alder Lake IMC scaling by frequency seemingly being bad, together with another boost the H610 has over B660/H670 (I mention below) pretty much makes no VRM heatsink Asus H610M-K the best option for gaming from 3050-3090 Ti, 1080p - 8k - 480Hz. Asus having outdone themselves, and their segmentation being the most consumer-oriented, I think they might end up winning this generation amongst the cheapest boards. Not only do their H610 boards have (on paper) better VRM Mosfets the all their <TUF H610/B660/H670 with 64A Mosfets, as I mentioned the segmentation is so good. cheapest H610 ($95) > medium H610($100) > cheapest B660 ($120) > medium B660 ($140) which translates into (1xM.2 PCI-E 3.0 > 2xM.2 PCI-E 3.0 > 2xM.2 PCI-E 4.0 > 3xM2 PCI-E 4.0). and then H670 brings more PCI-E graphic lanes. Granted there's a lack of USB-C, DDR5/PCI-E 5.0 which the competition has, but overall go Asus!, cheapeast board 100% running 12400F without heatsink and without overheating (pending HardwareUnboxed/Gamersnexus/other review of course). below detailed comparison of them: https://geizhals.eu/?cmp=2660862&cmp=266...mp=2660681 From left to right, Prime H610M-K, Prime H610M-A, Prime B660M-A, Prime B660-Plus: H610 (cheapeast Asus Prime) is shaping up to be the only board necessary for 12100/12400F provided that it supports MCE and unlocked TDP. Hopefully someone tests this soon. (and of course as u need more I/O/Lanes just step up to the next H610/B660/H670/
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Tucker1313
12-09-2016, 04:08 AM #3

On top of all of this with 12100/12400F + H610 supporting 3200 MHz memory, and Alder Lake IMC scaling by frequency seemingly being bad, together with another boost the H610 has over B660/H670 (I mention below) pretty much makes no VRM heatsink Asus H610M-K the best option for gaming from 3050-3090 Ti, 1080p - 8k - 480Hz. Asus having outdone themselves, and their segmentation being the most consumer-oriented, I think they might end up winning this generation amongst the cheapest boards. Not only do their H610 boards have (on paper) better VRM Mosfets the all their <TUF H610/B660/H670 with 64A Mosfets, as I mentioned the segmentation is so good. cheapest H610 ($95) > medium H610($100) > cheapest B660 ($120) > medium B660 ($140) which translates into (1xM.2 PCI-E 3.0 > 2xM.2 PCI-E 3.0 > 2xM.2 PCI-E 4.0 > 3xM2 PCI-E 4.0). and then H670 brings more PCI-E graphic lanes. Granted there's a lack of USB-C, DDR5/PCI-E 5.0 which the competition has, but overall go Asus!, cheapeast board 100% running 12400F without heatsink and without overheating (pending HardwareUnboxed/Gamersnexus/other review of course). below detailed comparison of them: https://geizhals.eu/?cmp=2660862&cmp=266...mp=2660681 From left to right, Prime H610M-K, Prime H610M-A, Prime B660M-A, Prime B660-Plus: H610 (cheapeast Asus Prime) is shaping up to be the only board necessary for 12100/12400F provided that it supports MCE and unlocked TDP. Hopefully someone tests this soon. (and of course as u need more I/O/Lanes just step up to the next H610/B660/H670/

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NaiROolF
Senior Member
685
12-09-2016, 04:08 AM
#4
The video demonstrates Alder Lake IMC performance with H610 boards running at 3200MHz and precise timings such as 14-14-14/15-16-16/16-16-18. These results match top CPUs and MOBAs. Further, the following clip highlights the Intel i3-12100 outperforming the Ryzen 3600, achieving 137 FPS in Warzone and 20 extra FPS at low settings, reaching 108 FPS in Cyberpunk 2077 with an additional 10 at lows. Overall, Intel shows strong performance across most titles, with minor exceptions for Horizon Zero Dawn and PUBG. Asrock is pushing boundaries by supporting their B660 boards (B660M/B660 Steel Legend, B660 PRO RS/D5) with the new 14000MB/s PCI-E 5.0 M.2 NVMe interface. This setup could potentially use bifurcation support via a riser, splitting the main PCIe 5.0 graphics slot into separate Gen5x8 slots for GPU and dual NVMe drives. While Asus TUF and similar models may also accommodate this, no official confirmation exists in manuals or guides. It's worth noting that such a configuration isn't as refined as the 6 x Z690 boards featuring dedicated PCIe 5.0 M.2 slots, though the most affordable option is around $475, and these B660 Asrock units could drop to about $150.
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NaiROolF
12-09-2016, 04:08 AM #4

The video demonstrates Alder Lake IMC performance with H610 boards running at 3200MHz and precise timings such as 14-14-14/15-16-16/16-16-18. These results match top CPUs and MOBAs. Further, the following clip highlights the Intel i3-12100 outperforming the Ryzen 3600, achieving 137 FPS in Warzone and 20 extra FPS at low settings, reaching 108 FPS in Cyberpunk 2077 with an additional 10 at lows. Overall, Intel shows strong performance across most titles, with minor exceptions for Horizon Zero Dawn and PUBG. Asrock is pushing boundaries by supporting their B660 boards (B660M/B660 Steel Legend, B660 PRO RS/D5) with the new 14000MB/s PCI-E 5.0 M.2 NVMe interface. This setup could potentially use bifurcation support via a riser, splitting the main PCIe 5.0 graphics slot into separate Gen5x8 slots for GPU and dual NVMe drives. While Asus TUF and similar models may also accommodate this, no official confirmation exists in manuals or guides. It's worth noting that such a configuration isn't as refined as the 6 x Z690 boards featuring dedicated PCIe 5.0 M.2 slots, though the most affordable option is around $475, and these B660 Asrock units could drop to about $150.

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TdmFan92
Senior Member
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12-09-2016, 04:08 AM
#5
HardwareUnboxed highlighted how a 12400F at 65w versus unlocked shows minimal variation, making the H610 boards—especially the Asus Prime H610M-K and H610M-A—the ideal choice for optimal performance. The price is so close to 5600x/12600k that it really boosts their value.
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TdmFan92
12-09-2016, 04:08 AM #5

HardwareUnboxed highlighted how a 12400F at 65w versus unlocked shows minimal variation, making the H610 boards—especially the Asus Prime H610M-K and H610M-A—the ideal choice for optimal performance. The price is so close to 5600x/12600k that it really boosts their value.

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Lillmust
Member
153
12-09-2016, 04:08 AM
#6
I wouldn't dismiss VRM issues from Asus just yet. If you reviewed the HUB B560 videos, you'll understand that the Asus Prime models had some serious problems with the B560 boards. The Prime B560M-K struggled to maintain temperature even with the stock 11400, let alone higher-end variants like the 11700F or any upgrades. After stress testing, the VRMs were running at 96°C with the 11400. The 12400 seems promising, but budget components aren't ideal with such powerful parts. The H610 board you mentioned doesn't include a VRM heatsink, which raises doubts about its ability to manage six or more cores. Perhaps the 12100 could be a better fit, though I wouldn't assume Asus overlooked VRM efficiency until proven otherwise.
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Lillmust
12-09-2016, 04:08 AM #6

I wouldn't dismiss VRM issues from Asus just yet. If you reviewed the HUB B560 videos, you'll understand that the Asus Prime models had some serious problems with the B560 boards. The Prime B560M-K struggled to maintain temperature even with the stock 11400, let alone higher-end variants like the 11700F or any upgrades. After stress testing, the VRMs were running at 96°C with the 11400. The 12400 seems promising, but budget components aren't ideal with such powerful parts. The H610 board you mentioned doesn't include a VRM heatsink, which raises doubts about its ability to manage six or more cores. Perhaps the 12100 could be a better fit, though I wouldn't assume Asus overlooked VRM efficiency until proven otherwise.

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Stunflix
Member
174
12-09-2016, 04:08 AM
#7
Highly unlikely this time around, the Mosfets themselves are upgraded from 58A to 64A, but more importantly instead of 3 doubled/teamed FETs, there's now a true/real 6x64A VRM section. That coupled with even lower power usage of 12400F compared to 11400F and the irrelevance of running over 65w stock, the H610 Prime boards should perform extremely well. That is if there's not something weird Asus did in the implementation. What happened with B560 wasn't a weird Snafu, (not in the context I'm using it now, my Snafu context is something that Builzoid wouldn't notice after examining detailed specs+pictures), it was just a too weak design choice. Exactly, the only reason I'm mentioning them is because on paper Asus hasn't cut any corners this time around. On the contrary, they seem to have done a full 180 with the lowest segment.
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Stunflix
12-09-2016, 04:08 AM #7

Highly unlikely this time around, the Mosfets themselves are upgraded from 58A to 64A, but more importantly instead of 3 doubled/teamed FETs, there's now a true/real 6x64A VRM section. That coupled with even lower power usage of 12400F compared to 11400F and the irrelevance of running over 65w stock, the H610 Prime boards should perform extremely well. That is if there's not something weird Asus did in the implementation. What happened with B560 wasn't a weird Snafu, (not in the context I'm using it now, my Snafu context is something that Builzoid wouldn't notice after examining detailed specs+pictures), it was just a too weak design choice. Exactly, the only reason I'm mentioning them is because on paper Asus hasn't cut any corners this time around. On the contrary, they seem to have done a full 180 with the lowest segment.

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12-09-2016, 04:08 AM
#8
It looks like this setup is more than sufficient for gaming at any resolution and in most titles. The i3-12100F at $97 delivers solid performance compared to older models like the Ryzen 5 3600 and i5-11400, even at minimal clock speeds. Pairing it with a Prime H610M-K brings the total under $200, including memory and cooling. You can handle 8K/4K content smoothly on devices like the 6900 XT and 3090 Ti. The 12900K still offers strong gains, and while future CPUs may surpass 4 cores, this configuration remains a solid choice right now.
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Lybrothodontia
12-09-2016, 04:08 AM #8

It looks like this setup is more than sufficient for gaming at any resolution and in most titles. The i3-12100F at $97 delivers solid performance compared to older models like the Ryzen 5 3600 and i5-11400, even at minimal clock speeds. Pairing it with a Prime H610M-K brings the total under $200, including memory and cooling. You can handle 8K/4K content smoothly on devices like the 6900 XT and 3090 Ti. The 12900K still offers strong gains, and while future CPUs may surpass 4 cores, this configuration remains a solid choice right now.

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Velizar06
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12-09-2016, 04:08 AM
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Despite your statements otherwise, GN continues to claim the H610 provides just one memory channel, supported by what appears to be an Intel slide. Do you have any documentation from Intel that explains this situation? If the H610 is restricted to a single channel, then using a high-end 4c/8t CPU on it would likely cause significant problems.
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Velizar06
12-09-2016, 04:08 AM #9

Despite your statements otherwise, GN continues to claim the H610 provides just one memory channel, supported by what appears to be an Intel slide. Do you have any documentation from Intel that explains this situation? If the H610 is restricted to a single channel, then using a high-end 4c/8t CPU on it would likely cause significant problems.

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SixJuan
Member
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12-09-2016, 04:08 AM
#10
Some "# of DIMMs per channel" values indicate the configuration. The Intel H610 shows 1 slot while the Intel B660 lists 2, possibly suggesting just two memory locations. Similar reports confirm this pattern for the Gigabyte H610 dual-channel setup with only two RAM slots.
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SixJuan
12-09-2016, 04:08 AM #10

Some "# of DIMMs per channel" values indicate the configuration. The Intel H610 shows 1 slot while the Intel B660 lists 2, possibly suggesting just two memory locations. Similar reports confirm this pattern for the Gigabyte H610 dual-channel setup with only two RAM slots.

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