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Zen2+ will focus on enhancing VRM performance.

Zen2+ will focus on enhancing VRM performance.

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Error_Sans55
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10-04-2022, 09:10 AM
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Hello Guys, I currently have a Ryzen 3700X on my ASUS X570-F Gaming Board wich has 200A VRM, saddly I didn't know, that the 570-E Gaming has better VRM (250A) when I preordered this board a while ago. So I am hoping to upgrade to a Ryzen 9 4950X or so, when it's released but do you think this will even run on the 570-F Gaming. The 570-F Gaming is currently short in europe so I would get about 280€ for mine used and the 570-E Gaming costs like 295€. Should I pay this 15€ for that upgrade or even wait till X670 Boards release and be fine with my config now? I'm struggling with this Idea now because it would be very anoying if the 200A VRM wouldn't be enough for the next gen Ryzen 9 and the 250A would be. But it also would be anoying if I make this upgrade now and would need a x670 board then anyways. What's your opinion on this conclusion?
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Error_Sans55
10-04-2022, 09:10 AM #1

Hello Guys, I currently have a Ryzen 3700X on my ASUS X570-F Gaming Board wich has 200A VRM, saddly I didn't know, that the 570-E Gaming has better VRM (250A) when I preordered this board a while ago. So I am hoping to upgrade to a Ryzen 9 4950X or so, when it's released but do you think this will even run on the 570-F Gaming. The 570-F Gaming is currently short in europe so I would get about 280€ for mine used and the 570-E Gaming costs like 295€. Should I pay this 15€ for that upgrade or even wait till X670 Boards release and be fine with my config now? I'm struggling with this Idea now because it would be very anoying if the 200A VRM wouldn't be enough for the next gen Ryzen 9 and the 250A would be. But it also would be anoying if I make this upgrade now and would need a x670 board then anyways. What's your opinion on this conclusion?

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M_Xx_H
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10-04-2022, 05:16 PM
#2
You can use a 3950X/4950X on a 4-phase B450 board with active cooling. Just make sure you're not pushing it too hard.
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M_Xx_H
10-04-2022, 05:16 PM #2

You can use a 3950X/4950X on a 4-phase B450 board with active cooling. Just make sure you're not pushing it too hard.

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LissieBear
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10-05-2022, 04:52 AM
#3
I won't be increasing the clock speed much, especially not to the point of ln². My plans are to upgrade to Zen 2 or later in the near future. I'm currently using a 280mm custom loop.
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LissieBear
10-05-2022, 04:52 AM #3

I won't be increasing the clock speed much, especially not to the point of ln². My plans are to upgrade to Zen 2 or later in the near future. I'm currently using a 280mm custom loop.

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xXTheBlackXx
Junior Member
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10-06-2022, 06:43 PM
#4
you won't consistently hit over 250-300W at full power, and that's not a big deal—those $170 X570 boards would work just fine. They likely share the same VRM design. But unless you're really relying on 16 cores now or soon, it's hard to predict what will change in 2021 with a new socket and Zen 3 chips using 7nm+++ processes.
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xXTheBlackXx
10-06-2022, 06:43 PM #4

you won't consistently hit over 250-300W at full power, and that's not a big deal—those $170 X570 boards would work just fine. They likely share the same VRM design. But unless you're really relying on 16 cores now or soon, it's hard to predict what will change in 2021 with a new socket and Zen 3 chips using 7nm+++ processes.

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McRockShard
Junior Member
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10-07-2022, 12:43 AM
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Essentially, most X570 boards work fine for OC'd R9 3950X, even without some mATX models and budget MSI units. It performs well on B450 Tomahawk with adequate airflow in the VRM. You're doing great with this board—next-gen chips are expected to be more power-efficient, drawing less power overall.
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McRockShard
10-07-2022, 12:43 AM #5

Essentially, most X570 boards work fine for OC'd R9 3950X, even without some mATX models and budget MSI units. It performs well on B450 Tomahawk with adequate airflow in the VRM. You're doing great with this board—next-gen chips are expected to be more power-efficient, drawing less power overall.

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tudyrusy1
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10-07-2022, 02:24 AM
#6
I expect DDR5 developments but we'll stay comfortable with Ryzen 9 4XXX. It's similar to how I handled my FX8350 during watercooling until July this year—still using it as an HTPC with a 980Ti, running most games well after optimization and overclocking. EDIT: I'm planning to include a VRM full cover water block when it launches. I hope the X570-E release a few weeks back from EKWB is a good sign for replacing the board.
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tudyrusy1
10-07-2022, 02:24 AM #6

I expect DDR5 developments but we'll stay comfortable with Ryzen 9 4XXX. It's similar to how I handled my FX8350 during watercooling until July this year—still using it as an HTPC with a 980Ti, running most games well after optimization and overclocking. EDIT: I'm planning to include a VRM full cover water block when it launches. I hope the X570-E release a few weeks back from EKWB is a good sign for replacing the board.

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fandras7
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10-13-2022, 01:52 AM
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The key benefit is expected to be noticeable improvements in single-threaded speed, especially with the 5000 series. Do you really need a 16-core processor? For gaming, an 8-core setup will likely suffice for many users.
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fandras7
10-13-2022, 01:52 AM #7

The key benefit is expected to be noticeable improvements in single-threaded speed, especially with the 5000 series. Do you really need a 16-core processor? For gaming, an 8-core setup will likely suffice for many users.

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YoloGeek22
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10-13-2022, 03:10 PM
#8
How long has this been going on? Planning ahead is wise, and I enjoy 3D modeling and photo editing as a side project—it’s rewarding there.
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YoloGeek22
10-13-2022, 03:10 PM #8

How long has this been going on? Planning ahead is wise, and I enjoy 3D modeling and photo editing as a side project—it’s rewarding there.

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sjoerdje007
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10-15-2022, 11:45 AM
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you really wont be running into 200A powerdraw on newer parts. at least not stock. and overclocking is fairly redundant. and there is no pointers they will go up in corecount.
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sjoerdje007
10-15-2022, 11:45 AM #9

you really wont be running into 200A powerdraw on newer parts. at least not stock. and overclocking is fairly redundant. and there is no pointers they will go up in corecount.

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RAINBOWSkylex
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10-16-2022, 01:47 AM
#10
We're not sure if there was any value in using a Ryzen 9 16-core now. It's possible the 4950X will have 32 cores, similar to the Threadripper 2950, and the Ryzen 9 3950 already does that. We don't have enough information.
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RAINBOWSkylex
10-16-2022, 01:47 AM #10

We're not sure if there was any value in using a Ryzen 9 16-core now. It's possible the 4950X will have 32 cores, similar to the Threadripper 2950, and the Ryzen 9 3950 already does that. We don't have enough information.

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