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Z690 hero paired with G.Skill 6000mhz XMP unstable configuration

Z690 hero paired with G.Skill 6000mhz XMP unstable configuration

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heyjudge100
Member
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08-22-2021, 03:16 AM
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I need some assistance here. This build has been causing issues since December 21. Initially, I used a G.Skill F5-6000U3636E16GX2 with TZ5RK and everything seemed okay. But when XMP is enabled or disabled, the game would crash randomly after about 10 minutes, especially when using HyperPi. By February 22, I returned the RAM to the seller, who offered a replacement with a different model and extra money for a price difference. I agreed. After a few days, the new RAM arrived and it worked stably once XMP was off. However, after a restart or shutdown, it became unstable again. Sometimes lowering the memory voltage helped temporarily, but it would crash within about an hour.

XMP1 caused instability for two attempts in eight tests, while XMP2 crashed within three minutes. MemoryTest86 passed the control check in under 1.3 seconds. I set everything to default and auto-applied XMP1, but after a restart or power-off it would fail again. I tried adjusting the frequency to 5800 MHz, which sometimes worked but still led to crashes. Changing the voltage (VdD, Vddq, Vm) to 1.35V gave stability, though it changed when I restarted. After BIOS 1403 released this month, the problem persisted. They replaced the RAM today, but the issue remained.

Now I’m unsure if the RAM is the problem or something else. Some people suggest my CPU controller might be weak, or maybe the Intel 12th Gen needs manual voltage tuning for XMP support. My old Z97 worked fine with just enabling XMP. Could anyone advise what to do next? Should I replace the CPU or check if the motherboard is faulty? My specs are: Asus Z690, i7-12700K, AMD Ryzen 360, 16GB DDR4, MSI RTX 3080 Ti, NVMe WD Black SSDs, HDDs, and a Seagate Baracuda 8TB cooler. PSU is Cosmos C700M PSU from Seasonic PX1000.
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heyjudge100
08-22-2021, 03:16 AM #1

I need some assistance here. This build has been causing issues since December 21. Initially, I used a G.Skill F5-6000U3636E16GX2 with TZ5RK and everything seemed okay. But when XMP is enabled or disabled, the game would crash randomly after about 10 minutes, especially when using HyperPi. By February 22, I returned the RAM to the seller, who offered a replacement with a different model and extra money for a price difference. I agreed. After a few days, the new RAM arrived and it worked stably once XMP was off. However, after a restart or shutdown, it became unstable again. Sometimes lowering the memory voltage helped temporarily, but it would crash within about an hour.

XMP1 caused instability for two attempts in eight tests, while XMP2 crashed within three minutes. MemoryTest86 passed the control check in under 1.3 seconds. I set everything to default and auto-applied XMP1, but after a restart or power-off it would fail again. I tried adjusting the frequency to 5800 MHz, which sometimes worked but still led to crashes. Changing the voltage (VdD, Vddq, Vm) to 1.35V gave stability, though it changed when I restarted. After BIOS 1403 released this month, the problem persisted. They replaced the RAM today, but the issue remained.

Now I’m unsure if the RAM is the problem or something else. Some people suggest my CPU controller might be weak, or maybe the Intel 12th Gen needs manual voltage tuning for XMP support. My old Z97 worked fine with just enabling XMP. Could anyone advise what to do next? Should I replace the CPU or check if the motherboard is faulty? My specs are: Asus Z690, i7-12700K, AMD Ryzen 360, 16GB DDR4, MSI RTX 3080 Ti, NVMe WD Black SSDs, HDDs, and a Seagate Baracuda 8TB cooler. PSU is Cosmos C700M PSU from Seasonic PX1000.

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Rounyx
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08-26-2021, 03:48 AM
#2
I think it’s likely a less robust memory controller, and 5600MHz might be too high for your CPU to handle. I’d increase the VCCSA and VCCIO voltages to test. XMP settings for DDR5 often work unpredictably because the Alder Lake memory controller isn’t great. Also, DDR5 can get hot since power is delivered directly to the memory chips, making it sensitive to temperature. If your setup lacks good airflow around the memory slots (like an AIO won’t help much), adding direct airflow might improve stability.
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Rounyx
08-26-2021, 03:48 AM #2

I think it’s likely a less robust memory controller, and 5600MHz might be too high for your CPU to handle. I’d increase the VCCSA and VCCIO voltages to test. XMP settings for DDR5 often work unpredictably because the Alder Lake memory controller isn’t great. Also, DDR5 can get hot since power is delivered directly to the memory chips, making it sensitive to temperature. If your setup lacks good airflow around the memory slots (like an AIO won’t help much), adding direct airflow might improve stability.

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Timmut
Junior Member
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08-31-2021, 09:16 PM
#3
Absolutely, the Alder Lake DDR5 controller performs quite poorly.
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Timmut
08-31-2021, 09:16 PM #3

Absolutely, the Alder Lake DDR5 controller performs quite poorly.

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pocio77
Posting Freak
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09-01-2021, 03:19 PM
#4
Hi, thank you. A processor with a weak memory controller might work, but you should check compatibility. You can return the CPU if needed. Alder Lake users usually handle voltage tuning manually for XMP, though you can leave some settings auto. Running XMP and leaving other settings automatic is possible depending on your setup.
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pocio77
09-01-2021, 03:19 PM #4

Hi, thank you. A processor with a weak memory controller might work, but you should check compatibility. You can return the CPU if needed. Alder Lake users usually handle voltage tuning manually for XMP, though you can leave some settings auto. Running XMP and leaving other settings automatic is possible depending on your setup.

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Aydien
Junior Member
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09-05-2021, 01:08 PM
#5
Your CPU's ASUS BIOS SP rating might not be listed; verify RAM compatibility with the Z690 Hero and contact Asus for a replacement if needed.
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Aydien
09-05-2021, 01:08 PM #5

Your CPU's ASUS BIOS SP rating might not be listed; verify RAM compatibility with the Z690 Hero and contact Asus for a replacement if needed.

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gaLact1cfLea
Member
194
09-05-2021, 01:17 PM
#6
These CPUs are only confirmed to reach 4800MHz when using single rank DIMMs. If you claim 6000MHz isn't possible, they'll likely respond by saying it wasn't specified. For more demanding configurations like 6000MHz, adjusting the voltage settings makes sense. It's not always required, but in your situation it probably is. Also, have you checked for active airflow? It could be that the memory is overheating and causing errors. DDR5 is particularly sensitive to heat, especially with power delivered directly to the chips, so temperatures above 6000MHz would likely need cooling. They usually won't fix it by swapping the CPU and pointing fingers at the memory controller.
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gaLact1cfLea
09-05-2021, 01:17 PM #6

These CPUs are only confirmed to reach 4800MHz when using single rank DIMMs. If you claim 6000MHz isn't possible, they'll likely respond by saying it wasn't specified. For more demanding configurations like 6000MHz, adjusting the voltage settings makes sense. It's not always required, but in your situation it probably is. Also, have you checked for active airflow? It could be that the memory is overheating and causing errors. DDR5 is particularly sensitive to heat, especially with power delivered directly to the chips, so temperatures above 6000MHz would likely need cooling. They usually won't fix it by swapping the CPU and pointing fingers at the memory controller.

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09-05-2021, 03:51 PM
#7
it was 72 points, my RAM was F5-6000J3636F16GX2 TZ5RK, not in ASUS QVL yet until now. Previously, it worked with ASUS QVL, but I still face the same issues—XMP on = game crash + BSOD. I’m planning to bring my motherboard, RAM, CPU, and NVMe to a seller for checking. This problem really frustrates me; almost half a year later, the PC remains unstable.
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Jazzy_Games123
09-05-2021, 03:51 PM #7

it was 72 points, my RAM was F5-6000J3636F16GX2 TZ5RK, not in ASUS QVL yet until now. Previously, it worked with ASUS QVL, but I still face the same issues—XMP on = game crash + BSOD. I’m planning to bring my motherboard, RAM, CPU, and NVMe to a seller for checking. This problem really frustrates me; almost half a year later, the PC remains unstable.

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Camiloute
Member
52
09-05-2021, 10:44 PM
#8
I built it using an older orientation setup, but the Cosmos C700M front fan is far from the RAM area. It sometimes struggles to stay stable, so I restart the PC when it’s still cool inside my room with an AC. Even when playing games, crashes can happen if it can’t reach the required stability. Once it’s stable enough, it can run games smoothly and handle higher loads—even running five times. Under stress from CPU and RAM, it would crash until I reboot. I’ve tried opening a side window to improve airflow inside the PC, but the result remains the same. Stability is unpredictable. On the forum, some people mention the same issue there. XMP settings can help, but do you have the same problem with your specs?
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Camiloute
09-05-2021, 10:44 PM #8

I built it using an older orientation setup, but the Cosmos C700M front fan is far from the RAM area. It sometimes struggles to stay stable, so I restart the PC when it’s still cool inside my room with an AC. Even when playing games, crashes can happen if it can’t reach the required stability. Once it’s stable enough, it can run games smoothly and handle higher loads—even running five times. Under stress from CPU and RAM, it would crash until I reboot. I’ve tried opening a side window to improve airflow inside the PC, but the result remains the same. Stability is unpredictable. On the forum, some people mention the same issue there. XMP settings can help, but do you have the same problem with your specs?

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xshot13
Member
122
09-06-2021, 07:06 AM
#9
This situation seems linked to Gear 2 functionality. Gear 2 enables higher memory speeds but adds some delay. Right now DDR5 only supports it at speeds up to 6200MHz–6400MHz. Past that, stability becomes unpredictable. On the four DIMM boards, instability typically appears around 6200MHz–6400MHz. Factors like a less capable memory controller, board design (my research on ASUS DDR5 isn’t extensive), or overly aggressive timings in memory kits can trigger this issue.

Active cooling is crucial—use a fan directly facing the memory chips, not just an open case. Even opening the side panel reduces airflow, so positioning the fan on the GPU back is ideal. For testing, mount the fan right where it contacts the memory modules.

My current setup uses an R9 5900X with an X570 Taichi, running a G.Skill Ripjaws V at 4400MHz CL17–18-18. I’ve pushed timings to 3800MHz CL16–13–21, aiming for lower CAS latency. Performance differences between 3800CL16 and 3800CL14 are minimal given tight subtimings.

I haven’t personally tried DDR5 yet, but I know others who have faced similar struggles. Enabling XMP only works on about half the systems, and attempting overclocking often leads to failure. Two DIMM platforms (Unify X, Tachyon, Apex, mini-ITX) seem more stable than the Alder Lake DDR5 controller, which behaves similarly to older DDR4 setups.

I might switch to DDR5 within a year, depending on AM5 availability or Intel’s Meteor Lake launch. It’s exciting to experiment, but reliability matters first before diving into tweaks. A basic memory controller is usually the root cause of these problems.
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xshot13
09-06-2021, 07:06 AM #9

This situation seems linked to Gear 2 functionality. Gear 2 enables higher memory speeds but adds some delay. Right now DDR5 only supports it at speeds up to 6200MHz–6400MHz. Past that, stability becomes unpredictable. On the four DIMM boards, instability typically appears around 6200MHz–6400MHz. Factors like a less capable memory controller, board design (my research on ASUS DDR5 isn’t extensive), or overly aggressive timings in memory kits can trigger this issue.

Active cooling is crucial—use a fan directly facing the memory chips, not just an open case. Even opening the side panel reduces airflow, so positioning the fan on the GPU back is ideal. For testing, mount the fan right where it contacts the memory modules.

My current setup uses an R9 5900X with an X570 Taichi, running a G.Skill Ripjaws V at 4400MHz CL17–18-18. I’ve pushed timings to 3800MHz CL16–13–21, aiming for lower CAS latency. Performance differences between 3800CL16 and 3800CL14 are minimal given tight subtimings.

I haven’t personally tried DDR5 yet, but I know others who have faced similar struggles. Enabling XMP only works on about half the systems, and attempting overclocking often leads to failure. Two DIMM platforms (Unify X, Tachyon, Apex, mini-ITX) seem more stable than the Alder Lake DDR5 controller, which behaves similarly to older DDR4 setups.

I might switch to DDR5 within a year, depending on AM5 availability or Intel’s Meteor Lake launch. It’s exciting to experiment, but reliability matters first before diving into tweaks. A basic memory controller is usually the root cause of these problems.

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LunaDoll
Member
193
09-07-2021, 05:54 PM
#10
SP 72 is low, which might indicate a weak CPU memory controller. The best way to confirm is to test another (better) CPU. Also, the Z690 Hero BIOS 1403 has stability issues with RAM, so reverting to 1304 would be wise. XMP2 is the setting you should use to align with manufacturer specifications. The Asus QVL list for Z690 Hero lists memory speeds up to 6000MHz for G and Skill chips, and up to 6400MHz for other brands using SK Hynix. If it can't handle that, consider replacing the board. But before assigning blame, try a different CPU first.
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LunaDoll
09-07-2021, 05:54 PM #10

SP 72 is low, which might indicate a weak CPU memory controller. The best way to confirm is to test another (better) CPU. Also, the Z690 Hero BIOS 1403 has stability issues with RAM, so reverting to 1304 would be wise. XMP2 is the setting you should use to align with manufacturer specifications. The Asus QVL list for Z690 Hero lists memory speeds up to 6000MHz for G and Skill chips, and up to 6400MHz for other brands using SK Hynix. If it can't handle that, consider replacing the board. But before assigning blame, try a different CPU first.

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