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Yes, there is specialized RAM designed for AMD systems.

Yes, there is specialized RAM designed for AMD systems.

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WeaseLR
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05-01-2016, 04:42 PM
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Stumbled upon several discussions about it elsewhere. The issue is about letting the AMD FX8350 Black Edition run at full capacity without hitting memory bottlenecks. https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/gig...d.2535702/ (AMD specific RAM info) I own two 8GB sticks: one is Patriot DDR3 8GB PC3 12800/1600MHz CL11, the other is a generic off-brand with matching specs. Do I have to swap to dedicated AMD modules? Or can I find better options to get the most performance out of my 1070 until I upgrade the motherboard, CPU, or RAM? Thanks!
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WeaseLR
05-01-2016, 04:42 PM #1

Stumbled upon several discussions about it elsewhere. The issue is about letting the AMD FX8350 Black Edition run at full capacity without hitting memory bottlenecks. https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/gig...d.2535702/ (AMD specific RAM info) I own two 8GB sticks: one is Patriot DDR3 8GB PC3 12800/1600MHz CL11, the other is a generic off-brand with matching specs. Do I have to swap to dedicated AMD modules? Or can I find better options to get the most performance out of my 1070 until I upgrade the motherboard, CPU, or RAM? Thanks!

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marre37
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05-01-2016, 11:39 PM
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there isn't specific intel or amd ram sticks mentioned unless you're referring to an xmp profile unique to intel or amd. generally, it's about finding the best mhz to cas ratio, aiming for lower cas with higher mhz performance. typically, 3200mhz paired with a 16th case is better than 3400mhz with the same case. but if your processor is an fx8350, it can be a major bottleneck—consider switching to a ryzen instead to save money.
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marre37
05-01-2016, 11:39 PM #2

there isn't specific intel or amd ram sticks mentioned unless you're referring to an xmp profile unique to intel or amd. generally, it's about finding the best mhz to cas ratio, aiming for lower cas with higher mhz performance. typically, 3200mhz paired with a 16th case is better than 3400mhz with the same case. but if your processor is an fx8350, it can be a major bottleneck—consider switching to a ryzen instead to save money.

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gamerpgf
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05-03-2016, 01:18 AM
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Back then, certain devices only functioned on the AMD system. I didn’t own them and don’t remember the specifics, but it required a quirky setup that made them work on AMD while not on Intel at that time. Nowadays, those distinctions are almost gone, even though products are still targeted to particular platforms.
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gamerpgf
05-03-2016, 01:18 AM #3

Back then, certain devices only functioned on the AMD system. I didn’t own them and don’t remember the specifics, but it required a quirky setup that made them work on AMD while not on Intel at that time. Nowadays, those distinctions are almost gone, even though products are still targeted to particular platforms.

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rando2
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05-03-2016, 04:16 PM
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Ty. Appreciate the update from mhz, didn’t realize. The 8350 is really a bottleneck. Just read that if the BIOS doesn’t adjust the timings, 1600 won’t work. So 1333mhz was a waste. I’ll check cpu-z for timing details.
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rando2
05-03-2016, 04:16 PM #4

Ty. Appreciate the update from mhz, didn’t realize. The 8350 is really a bottleneck. Just read that if the BIOS doesn’t adjust the timings, 1600 won’t work. So 1333mhz was a waste. I’ll check cpu-z for timing details.

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05-04-2016, 07:38 PM
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Likely existed during the AMD64 era since AMD was the sole 64-bit processor available then.
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Frowning_Clown
05-04-2016, 07:38 PM #5

Likely existed during the AMD64 era since AMD was the sole 64-bit processor available then.

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ChickenPhoYou
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05-06-2016, 11:57 AM
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Focusing on trending claims and leveraging consumer optimism about tailored products. I own a G-Skill fortis model built for AMD Ryzen, and because marketing often fails to resonate, it’s actually the most affordable option available for its capabilities.
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ChickenPhoYou
05-06-2016, 11:57 AM #6

Focusing on trending claims and leveraging consumer optimism about tailored products. I own a G-Skill fortis model built for AMD Ryzen, and because marketing often fails to resonate, it’s actually the most affordable option available for its capabilities.

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10th_Doctor_
Posting Freak
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05-07-2016, 08:52 PM
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Here’s a simplified version: You have four slots for RAM, with two black and two gray sticks. Each stick fits into one of the gray slots. The setup seems to be dual-channel mode. You’re noticing that only half of the 1600 MHz sticks are showing up in CPU-Z, which is confusing. You’re wondering if you’re actually using dual-channel and why some sticks aren’t appearing.
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10th_Doctor_
05-07-2016, 08:52 PM #7

Here’s a simplified version: You have four slots for RAM, with two black and two gray sticks. Each stick fits into one of the gray slots. The setup seems to be dual-channel mode. You’re noticing that only half of the 1600 MHz sticks are showing up in CPU-Z, which is confusing. You’re wondering if you’re actually using dual-channel and why some sticks aren’t appearing.

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alejandrobo1
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05-19-2016, 03:56 PM
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DDR3 and DDR4 are fully compatible with AMD systems. Although some memory modules might be specially tuned for Intel chipsets, they still function on AMD boards and processors. In the past, DDR2 faced issues where certain Intel chipset models couldn't support all memory types. The small chips inside memory cards needed specific placement on the RAM stick. AMD motherboards and chipsets offered a different arrangement method, enabling manufacturers to produce smaller, more affordable chips that could store larger amounts of data. For instance, a RAM stick using 16 x 128 MB chips could provide 2 GB, whereas Intel systems required 8 x 256 MB chips for the same capacity, which were costlier. This explains why eBay listings often mention "For AMD systems"—it simply indicates that most Intel chipsets from that era wouldn't work with those sticks, while AMD (and possibly Via) would still function properly.
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alejandrobo1
05-19-2016, 03:56 PM #8

DDR3 and DDR4 are fully compatible with AMD systems. Although some memory modules might be specially tuned for Intel chipsets, they still function on AMD boards and processors. In the past, DDR2 faced issues where certain Intel chipset models couldn't support all memory types. The small chips inside memory cards needed specific placement on the RAM stick. AMD motherboards and chipsets offered a different arrangement method, enabling manufacturers to produce smaller, more affordable chips that could store larger amounts of data. For instance, a RAM stick using 16 x 128 MB chips could provide 2 GB, whereas Intel systems required 8 x 256 MB chips for the same capacity, which were costlier. This explains why eBay listings often mention "For AMD systems"—it simply indicates that most Intel chipsets from that era wouldn't work with those sticks, while AMD (and possibly Via) would still function properly.

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Eppikx
Senior Member
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05-26-2016, 10:13 AM
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A2 and b2 are your designated slots. You're seeing only half of this because the data rate is below 1600MHz, actually around 800MHz, and the sticks indicate they aren't compatible. Mixing RAM with different latency cases is really problematic (as you now know).
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Eppikx
05-26-2016, 10:13 AM #9

A2 and b2 are your designated slots. You're seeing only half of this because the data rate is below 1600MHz, actually around 800MHz, and the sticks indicate they aren't compatible. Mixing RAM with different latency cases is really problematic (as you now know).

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TheGoonDude
Junior Member
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05-26-2016, 10:46 AM
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It isn't a major issue. The BIOS sets slower speeds for both sticks, and the first stick will operate more loosely, which is fine. Issues arise only if the RAM requires different voltages at certain frequencies—then the BIOS will choose the quickest setting, using standard 1.5V (or 1.2V for DDR4). Check the manual online for guidance on placing the sticks in dual channel mode. Ideally, put both sticks in the same color slots, preferably the pair farthest from the CPU—usually slot 2 and 4. Most boards follow this layout: [channel 1, slot 1], [channel 1, slot 2], [channel 2, slot 1], [channel 2, slot 2]. For dual channel, insert one stick in each channel, like [channel 1, slot 2] and [channel 2, slot 2]. In practice, the RAM runs at half the advertised speed. For example, a 1600 MHz stick will actually operate at 800 MHz. Your sticks are both 1600 MHz—one uses JEDEC #7 profile (11-11-11-28-39), the other XMP-1600 or AMP (10-10-10-27-39). Because one is slower, the BIOS will default to slower timings for both. This doesn’t depend on dual channel; it’s about how the controller handles data transfer. In dual channel mode, the processor and memory controller read/write from both channels simultaneously, speeding up access by half the time for a given size. They claim double the real frequency for comparison with older RAM, due to faster data transfer methods in newer chips.
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TheGoonDude
05-26-2016, 10:46 AM #10

It isn't a major issue. The BIOS sets slower speeds for both sticks, and the first stick will operate more loosely, which is fine. Issues arise only if the RAM requires different voltages at certain frequencies—then the BIOS will choose the quickest setting, using standard 1.5V (or 1.2V for DDR4). Check the manual online for guidance on placing the sticks in dual channel mode. Ideally, put both sticks in the same color slots, preferably the pair farthest from the CPU—usually slot 2 and 4. Most boards follow this layout: [channel 1, slot 1], [channel 1, slot 2], [channel 2, slot 1], [channel 2, slot 2]. For dual channel, insert one stick in each channel, like [channel 1, slot 2] and [channel 2, slot 2]. In practice, the RAM runs at half the advertised speed. For example, a 1600 MHz stick will actually operate at 800 MHz. Your sticks are both 1600 MHz—one uses JEDEC #7 profile (11-11-11-28-39), the other XMP-1600 or AMP (10-10-10-27-39). Because one is slower, the BIOS will default to slower timings for both. This doesn’t depend on dual channel; it’s about how the controller handles data transfer. In dual channel mode, the processor and memory controller read/write from both channels simultaneously, speeding up access by half the time for a given size. They claim double the real frequency for comparison with older RAM, due to faster data transfer methods in newer chips.

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