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Yes, Apple Firewall is disabled by default.

Yes, Apple Firewall is disabled by default.

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Robotic_Slap
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03-19-2024, 01:07 AM
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In recent weeks I've been installing numerous new iMacs for my professional use. A recurring observation is that the firewall stays disabled by default and needs to be activated. When adjusting settings on my laptop, I found the firewall was also off even though it had been enabled previously with a "set it and forget it" approach, understanding it would remain active unless something disabled it or I intentionally turned it off. Is this an isolated issue? Of course, if your network is safeguarded you still have some security measures in place, but it feels unnecessary to manually enable protections when the system already has them on automatically. (And it clearly alerts you when it's not.) The main point I'm asking is why Apple would include a security feature that remains inactive right out of the box.
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Robotic_Slap
03-19-2024, 01:07 AM #1

In recent weeks I've been installing numerous new iMacs for my professional use. A recurring observation is that the firewall stays disabled by default and needs to be activated. When adjusting settings on my laptop, I found the firewall was also off even though it had been enabled previously with a "set it and forget it" approach, understanding it would remain active unless something disabled it or I intentionally turned it off. Is this an isolated issue? Of course, if your network is safeguarded you still have some security measures in place, but it feels unnecessary to manually enable protections when the system already has them on automatically. (And it clearly alerts you when it's not.) The main point I'm asking is why Apple would include a security feature that remains inactive right out of the box.

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Abood_99am
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03-24-2024, 07:32 AM
#2
They can easily monitor your activity when the firewall is disabled.
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Abood_99am
03-24-2024, 07:32 AM #2

They can easily monitor your activity when the firewall is disabled.

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DRAGON91160
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03-25-2024, 10:43 PM
#3
Like other Unix-like systems, firewalls are useful but not always essential. If no activity is detected on a port, nothing should occur. Many services typically don’t use ports by default, which is why firewalls aren’t as critical as they are on Windows, where dozens of ports often open automatically at startup.
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DRAGON91160
03-25-2024, 10:43 PM #3

Like other Unix-like systems, firewalls are useful but not always essential. If no activity is detected on a port, nothing should occur. Many services typically don’t use ports by default, which is why firewalls aren’t as critical as they are on Windows, where dozens of ports often open automatically at startup.

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DB010
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03-26-2024, 04:06 AM
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Looking at the number of laptop users makes it a really bad move for Apple. Even if ports aren’t widely used, a single glitch or user-installed software change can quickly turn into a major security problem.
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DB010
03-26-2024, 04:06 AM #4

Looking at the number of laptop users makes it a really bad move for Apple. Even if ports aren’t widely used, a single glitch or user-installed software change can quickly turn into a major security problem.

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aicontepig
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04-14-2024, 07:54 PM
#5
Most routers come with a firewall, though it might seem less important than it appears.
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aicontepig
04-14-2024, 07:54 PM #5

Most routers come with a firewall, though it might seem less important than it appears.

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Pestail
Junior Member
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04-15-2024, 04:10 AM
#6
Unlike common assumptions, Apple isn’t focused on gathering your personal details. They actually avoid collecting user data.
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Pestail
04-15-2024, 04:10 AM #6

Unlike common assumptions, Apple isn’t focused on gathering your personal details. They actually avoid collecting user data.

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tomasaro
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04-15-2024, 04:59 AM
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However, you might not be connecting to your computer over a secure network, which creates an issue. Additionally, if your network uses IPv6, it's hard to know exactly what access your router is granting. Assuming one company's security for another is simply poor practice! If neither Apple nor your router maker cares, you're in trouble.
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tomasaro
04-15-2024, 04:59 AM #7

However, you might not be connecting to your computer over a secure network, which creates an issue. Additionally, if your network uses IPv6, it's hard to know exactly what access your router is granting. Assuming one company's security for another is simply poor practice! If neither Apple nor your router maker cares, you're in trouble.

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Nejc007
Senior Member
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04-15-2024, 10:04 AM
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I believe the confusion comes from security perspectives. However, if you wish to critique Apple, you should address every Linux distribution since they don’t include it by default. Honestly, it’s not such a major issue.
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Nejc007
04-15-2024, 10:04 AM #8

I believe the confusion comes from security perspectives. However, if you wish to critique Apple, you should address every Linux distribution since they don’t include it by default. Honestly, it’s not such a major issue.

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BadrBoss
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04-15-2024, 07:25 PM
#9
Apple gadgets suit beginners, while Linux caters to advanced users—clearly a big gap. I’m also not confident it’s accurate; it seems I had to turn off the firewall manually each time I installed Linux.
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BadrBoss
04-15-2024, 07:25 PM #9

Apple gadgets suit beginners, while Linux caters to advanced users—clearly a big gap. I’m also not confident it’s accurate; it seems I had to turn off the firewall manually each time I installed Linux.

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gmp355
Junior Member
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04-15-2024, 08:59 PM
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Ubuntu recently began allowing the firewall by default last year. Despite this change, it’s worth questioning why you’re turning it off.
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gmp355
04-15-2024, 08:59 PM #10

Ubuntu recently began allowing the firewall by default last year. Despite this change, it’s worth questioning why you’re turning it off.

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