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Xeons vs i7's Gaming Performance

Xeons vs i7's Gaming Performance

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Ungenuine
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11-02-2016, 11:59 AM
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I have a colleague who’s undecided about purchasing a workstation from me for a much cheaper price than a brand new desktop. I own a Dell Precision T5810 or an HP Z640, either with an 8-core E5-2640 v3 at 2.6 GHz or a 6-core E5-1650 v3 at 3.5 GHz, and 32 GB of RAM. In Fire Strike Physics the E5-2640 v3 gets a score of 12,449 while the i7-6700K scores 12,155. My concern is whether a solid gaming experience requires high clock speeds or if more cores and threads at lower frequencies are enough for today’s mainstream games. Thanks.
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Ungenuine
11-02-2016, 11:59 AM #1

I have a colleague who’s undecided about purchasing a workstation from me for a much cheaper price than a brand new desktop. I own a Dell Precision T5810 or an HP Z640, either with an 8-core E5-2640 v3 at 2.6 GHz or a 6-core E5-1650 v3 at 3.5 GHz, and 32 GB of RAM. In Fire Strike Physics the E5-2640 v3 gets a score of 12,449 while the i7-6700K scores 12,155. My concern is whether a solid gaming experience requires high clock speeds or if more cores and threads at lower frequencies are enough for today’s mainstream games. Thanks.

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jrobbs7
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11-02-2016, 01:30 PM
#2
The outcome relies significantly on the situation.
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jrobbs7
11-02-2016, 01:30 PM #2

The outcome relies significantly on the situation.

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duhazneubin
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11-02-2016, 09:20 PM
#3
It seems most games are released instead of just one particular title.
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duhazneubin
11-02-2016, 09:20 PM #3

It seems most games are released instead of just one particular title.

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foxh0pper
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11-04-2016, 02:09 PM
#4
It’s a delicate adjustment, but generally quicker cores make a difference. My 6c/6t 8600K ran significantly faster than my 8c/16t R7 2700X in gaming, even with the latter having 166% more threads. The performance drop is more apparent in single core clocks and IPC. With a CPU like a 3700X, 9900K/9900KS, or 3900X, you’ll get better results because of the many cores and their speed. FireStrike works well for testing, but it doesn’t reflect real-world demands. Just as your Xeon might score higher in Cinebench than the 6700K, gaming usually needs 4-6 cores, sometimes up to 8. At stock speeds, those Xeons won’t stand a chance against the 6700K or newer high-clocked CPUs.
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foxh0pper
11-04-2016, 02:09 PM #4

It’s a delicate adjustment, but generally quicker cores make a difference. My 6c/6t 8600K ran significantly faster than my 8c/16t R7 2700X in gaming, even with the latter having 166% more threads. The performance drop is more apparent in single core clocks and IPC. With a CPU like a 3700X, 9900K/9900KS, or 3900X, you’ll get better results because of the many cores and their speed. FireStrike works well for testing, but it doesn’t reflect real-world demands. Just as your Xeon might score higher in Cinebench than the 6700K, gaming usually needs 4-6 cores, sometimes up to 8. At stock speeds, those Xeons won’t stand a chance against the 6700K or newer high-clocked CPUs.

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mariahthai
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11-05-2016, 07:47 AM
#5
Both options are solid workstation choices, though they aren't designed for gaming. While some titles can leverage more than four cores—even eight at times—the typical workload usually centers around a single core, which can reach near full capacity (around 100%) when the average is closer to 60%. The scheduling isn’t ideal. It’s also worth noting that you’re benchmarking against a 6700k processor running at its stock speed (4GHz), which isn’t as demanding as what it might handle under typical gaming conditions. Expect performance similar to a Ryzen 1st generation setup, or worse if overclocked.
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mariahthai
11-05-2016, 07:47 AM #5

Both options are solid workstation choices, though they aren't designed for gaming. While some titles can leverage more than four cores—even eight at times—the typical workload usually centers around a single core, which can reach near full capacity (around 100%) when the average is closer to 60%. The scheduling isn’t ideal. It’s also worth noting that you’re benchmarking against a 6700k processor running at its stock speed (4GHz), which isn’t as demanding as what it might handle under typical gaming conditions. Expect performance similar to a Ryzen 1st generation setup, or worse if overclocked.

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toyjay2005
Junior Member
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11-09-2016, 01:30 AM
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For what purpose are these Xeons? They’re essentially similar to Haswell/Haswell-E at comparable speeds, while the 2640 models run slower. The 1650 could work fine, but it shines more when overclocked—R5 1600 can push it to 3.8-4GHz all cores, whereas a single core tops out at 3.8GHz on these chips.
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toyjay2005
11-09-2016, 01:30 AM #6

For what purpose are these Xeons? They’re essentially similar to Haswell/Haswell-E at comparable speeds, while the 2640 models run slower. The 1650 could work fine, but it shines more when overclocked—R5 1600 can push it to 3.8-4GHz all cores, whereas a single core tops out at 3.8GHz on these chips.

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Superlenthe
Junior Member
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11-09-2016, 04:01 AM
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I only look at how stocks performed between the 1700 and 2640v2 because that’s the only option that’s fixed; otherwise, it wouldn’t be accurate. The 1650v3 is available and should surpass the 1600 even with a solid upgrade.
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Superlenthe
11-09-2016, 04:01 AM #7

I only look at how stocks performed between the 1700 and 2640v2 because that’s the only option that’s fixed; otherwise, it wouldn’t be accurate. The 1650v3 is available and should surpass the 1600 even with a solid upgrade.

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TehStratosHD
Senior Member
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11-10-2016, 06:35 PM
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I was considering the E5-1650 v3 as a better choice for gaming on his workstation. Both systems have locked BIOS configurations. (RIP) I’m just checking if this would keep him in the game for a couple of years until he saves more. He already has a 1080 Ti graphics card. Would the 6-core 1650 be sufficient in the meantime, or should we wait to upgrade?
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TehStratosHD
11-10-2016, 06:35 PM #8

I was considering the E5-1650 v3 as a better choice for gaming on his workstation. Both systems have locked BIOS configurations. (RIP) I’m just checking if this would keep him in the game for a couple of years until he saves more. He already has a 1080 Ti graphics card. Would the 6-core 1650 be sufficient in the meantime, or should we wait to upgrade?

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BloodArsenal
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11-10-2016, 08:02 PM
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This setup isn't ideal for a workstation unless your motherboard supports it. The chipset doesn’t allow overclocking. If you manage to get a 1650v3 up to 4.2–4.5Ghz, it should provide strong gaming performance. I use an i7 5820K at 4.2Ghz and it performs similarly under those conditions—no noticeable lag. It runs a bit better at 4.5Ghz, but my cooling isn’t sufficient for that speed; it needs around 1.32V to reach 4.5Ghz, while 4.2Ghz works at 1.2V.
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BloodArsenal
11-10-2016, 08:02 PM #9

This setup isn't ideal for a workstation unless your motherboard supports it. The chipset doesn’t allow overclocking. If you manage to get a 1650v3 up to 4.2–4.5Ghz, it should provide strong gaming performance. I use an i7 5820K at 4.2Ghz and it performs similarly under those conditions—no noticeable lag. It runs a bit better at 4.5Ghz, but my cooling isn’t sufficient for that speed; it needs around 1.32V to reach 4.5Ghz, while 4.2Ghz works at 1.2V.

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Red_Gaurdian7
Junior Member
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11-17-2016, 11:41 AM
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Hope it's not that
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Red_Gaurdian7
11-17-2016, 11:41 AM #10

Hope it's not that

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