F5F Stay Refreshed Hardware Desktop Would this package make sense compared to your existing configuration?

Would this package make sense compared to your existing configuration?

Would this package make sense compared to your existing configuration?

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xNBYv2
Junior Member
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05-08-2022, 05:23 PM
#1
You're experiencing limitations with your 7900 XTX due to insufficient memory, while your system has 5950x with 32g of RAM available.
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xNBYv2
05-08-2022, 05:23 PM #1

You're experiencing limitations with your 7900 XTX due to insufficient memory, while your system has 5950x with 32g of RAM available.

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ArneTheArne123
Junior Member
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05-09-2022, 01:53 AM
#2
It varies based on your specific requirements for the PC.
For gaming, the R7 9700X provides higher FPS thanks to improved single-core performance.
Gaming comparison link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHzNKBKG5L4
However, for workstation tasks where multi-threaded efficiency is crucial, you'll lose half of your cores and threads. The transition would be from 16c/32t to 8c/16t.
Synthetic comparison details: https://technical.city/en/cpu/Ryzen-9-59...en-7-9700X
For the current top AMD GPU, the only suitable CPU pairing would be the R7 9800X3D, often referred to as the gaming king.
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ArneTheArne123
05-09-2022, 01:53 AM #2

It varies based on your specific requirements for the PC.
For gaming, the R7 9700X provides higher FPS thanks to improved single-core performance.
Gaming comparison link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHzNKBKG5L4
However, for workstation tasks where multi-threaded efficiency is crucial, you'll lose half of your cores and threads. The transition would be from 16c/32t to 8c/16t.
Synthetic comparison details: https://technical.city/en/cpu/Ryzen-9-59...en-7-9700X
For the current top AMD GPU, the only suitable CPU pairing would be the R7 9800X3D, often referred to as the gaming king.

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DarkerDC
Junior Member
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05-09-2022, 05:03 AM
#3
This would be strictly for gaming purposes, aiming to access the new architecture and enable upgrades. Is it a good approach?
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DarkerDC
05-09-2022, 05:03 AM #3

This would be strictly for gaming purposes, aiming to access the new architecture and enable upgrades. Is it a good approach?

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Discogamer08
Junior Member
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05-18-2022, 02:09 AM
#4
Right now the R7 9800X3D stands out as the top choice for gaming. With 4K high/ultra settings, you'll see about 40 FPS more than with your current CPU. Check out the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyWyEYKYo8A. The Ryzen 10000-series (Zen6 "Morpheus") is expected to launch in Q3/Q4 of 2026, and AMD plans to support the AM5 platform through 2027, possibly even longer. If you decide to upgrade now with a Ryzen 9000-series, the best time would be around 1.5 years from now while keeping the same motherboard. Your existing CPU is already quite strong, making it a great workstation processor thanks to its high core and thread count. If your main goal is higher FPS without sacrificing resolution and you can afford a new CPU with the right components (AM5 only supports DDR5 RAM), then definitely consider the R7 9800X3D.
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Discogamer08
05-18-2022, 02:09 AM #4

Right now the R7 9800X3D stands out as the top choice for gaming. With 4K high/ultra settings, you'll see about 40 FPS more than with your current CPU. Check out the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyWyEYKYo8A. The Ryzen 10000-series (Zen6 "Morpheus") is expected to launch in Q3/Q4 of 2026, and AMD plans to support the AM5 platform through 2027, possibly even longer. If you decide to upgrade now with a Ryzen 9000-series, the best time would be around 1.5 years from now while keeping the same motherboard. Your existing CPU is already quite strong, making it a great workstation processor thanks to its high core and thread count. If your main goal is higher FPS without sacrificing resolution and you can afford a new CPU with the right components (AM5 only supports DDR5 RAM), then definitely consider the R7 9800X3D.

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xXDinklemanXx
Member
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05-18-2022, 04:55 PM
#5
The intention was to acquire this bundle first, followed by upgrading to the 9800X3D in January.
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xXDinklemanXx
05-18-2022, 04:55 PM #5

The intention was to acquire this bundle first, followed by upgrading to the 9800X3D in January.

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RasierShampoo
Member
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05-20-2022, 01:41 AM
#6
Well, that implies spending a lot on CPU, but you're still paying for it. I checked the setup more closely and noticed MoBo is the less reliable component in that configuration. That’s likely why this particular combination ended up first.

The AMD 600-series (such as B650) was launched at the same time as the Ryzen 7000-series CPUs. For the Ryzen 7000-series, a B650 chipset would be adequate (X670 would be preferable). For the Ryzen 9000-series, B850 or X870/X870E would be more suitable.

When comparing AM5 chipsets, you can find more details here: https://www.amd.com/en/products/processo...html#specs

Regarding the Gigabyte MoBo, it falls into the lower-end category among other B650 models. You can review its specifications at: https://www.techspot.com/review/2699-amd...herboards/
And see more details here: https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B65...v-1x/sp#sp

The two main drawbacks are the limited VRM phase count (just 8 phases total, including 8+2+2) and the absence of PCI-E 5.0 support (except for one M.2 slot). It would be a decent choice to pair with an R5 7600 or similar.

In terms of overall hardware combinations, these aren’t ideal for regular consumers looking for great value. They’re more suited for retailers trying to clear out inventory that doesn’t sell well. The CPU itself is solid, likely highlighted as the main selling point. MoBo is an older generation, mid-range model, and sits at the lower end of its tier. It probably represents excess stock that manufacturers want to dispose of. Similar issues could apply to RAM as well.

Stock availability for these setups is limited. If you’re considering this path, it’s up to you. However, if you go with the R7 9800X3D, I’d recommend a better MoBo option.

In fact, I’m currently looking at purchasing the R7 9800X3D myself. But I plan to buy it later this year. I’ve already selected the hardware and will be getting a MoBo with 20+2+2 VRM phases to go along with my R7 9800X3D (X870E chipset).
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RasierShampoo
05-20-2022, 01:41 AM #6

Well, that implies spending a lot on CPU, but you're still paying for it. I checked the setup more closely and noticed MoBo is the less reliable component in that configuration. That’s likely why this particular combination ended up first.

The AMD 600-series (such as B650) was launched at the same time as the Ryzen 7000-series CPUs. For the Ryzen 7000-series, a B650 chipset would be adequate (X670 would be preferable). For the Ryzen 9000-series, B850 or X870/X870E would be more suitable.

When comparing AM5 chipsets, you can find more details here: https://www.amd.com/en/products/processo...html#specs

Regarding the Gigabyte MoBo, it falls into the lower-end category among other B650 models. You can review its specifications at: https://www.techspot.com/review/2699-amd...herboards/
And see more details here: https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B65...v-1x/sp#sp

The two main drawbacks are the limited VRM phase count (just 8 phases total, including 8+2+2) and the absence of PCI-E 5.0 support (except for one M.2 slot). It would be a decent choice to pair with an R5 7600 or similar.

In terms of overall hardware combinations, these aren’t ideal for regular consumers looking for great value. They’re more suited for retailers trying to clear out inventory that doesn’t sell well. The CPU itself is solid, likely highlighted as the main selling point. MoBo is an older generation, mid-range model, and sits at the lower end of its tier. It probably represents excess stock that manufacturers want to dispose of. Similar issues could apply to RAM as well.

Stock availability for these setups is limited. If you’re considering this path, it’s up to you. However, if you go with the R7 9800X3D, I’d recommend a better MoBo option.

In fact, I’m currently looking at purchasing the R7 9800X3D myself. But I plan to buy it later this year. I’ve already selected the hardware and will be getting a MoBo with 20+2+2 VRM phases to go along with my R7 9800X3D (X870E chipset).

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ItsUgly
Junior Member
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06-01-2022, 02:23 AM
#7
Would this serve as a superior choice?
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ItsUgly
06-01-2022, 02:23 AM #7

Would this serve as a superior choice?

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Narava
Member
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06-01-2022, 02:34 AM
#8
Well, CPU is better, former king of gaming (until R7 9800X3D released).
Despite R7 7800X3D being gen older than R7 9700X, in gaming, you still get ~15 FPS more with former king;
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANEOIfkU9qI
MoBo is still weak part of the combo, 8+2 VRM phases and the same lack of PCI-E 5.0 support (as Gigabyte above, Asus also has just one M.2 PCI-E slot, while the rest, including PCI-E x16 slots are all PCI-E 4.0),
specs:
https://www.asus.com/motherboards-compon...50-e-wifi/
And the RAM is very same as in previous combo.
The more phases VRM has (including proper cooling) - the more stable power CPU (actually entire PC) can get through MoBo. Having more VRM phases is especially critical for high power consumption CPUs, even more so when you OC the CPU.
Here is good Q&A about VRM:
https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/glossary/vrm/
If you looked the B650 MoBo roundup, there are few MoBos with mere 4 phase VRM. Then one has 6 phase VRM. Followed by 8, 10 (one MoBo), 12 (most MoBos), 14, 16 and ends with insane 24 phase AsRock MoBo.
So, in B650 lineup, MoBo VRM phase selection is: 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16 and 24 (namely 24+2+1). Since Ryzen 7 is high-end CPU (regardless if you go with 7800X3D, 9700X, 9800X3D), i'd pair such high-end CPU with minimum 12 VRM phase MoBo. While more would be better. (As i said earlier, i'm pairing my 9800X3D with 20+2+2 VRM phase MoBo. While the current MoBo what i'm using, from 2016, MSI Z170A Gaming M5, has 12 VRM phases.)
From the Lenovo link i shared above, you can read what issues may arise when you skimp over VRM phases. So, your call if you want to get weak MoBo (VRM) with your high-end CPU.
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Narava
06-01-2022, 02:34 AM #8

Well, CPU is better, former king of gaming (until R7 9800X3D released).
Despite R7 7800X3D being gen older than R7 9700X, in gaming, you still get ~15 FPS more with former king;
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANEOIfkU9qI
MoBo is still weak part of the combo, 8+2 VRM phases and the same lack of PCI-E 5.0 support (as Gigabyte above, Asus also has just one M.2 PCI-E slot, while the rest, including PCI-E x16 slots are all PCI-E 4.0),
specs:
https://www.asus.com/motherboards-compon...50-e-wifi/
And the RAM is very same as in previous combo.
The more phases VRM has (including proper cooling) - the more stable power CPU (actually entire PC) can get through MoBo. Having more VRM phases is especially critical for high power consumption CPUs, even more so when you OC the CPU.
Here is good Q&A about VRM:
https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/glossary/vrm/
If you looked the B650 MoBo roundup, there are few MoBos with mere 4 phase VRM. Then one has 6 phase VRM. Followed by 8, 10 (one MoBo), 12 (most MoBos), 14, 16 and ends with insane 24 phase AsRock MoBo.
So, in B650 lineup, MoBo VRM phase selection is: 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16 and 24 (namely 24+2+1). Since Ryzen 7 is high-end CPU (regardless if you go with 7800X3D, 9700X, 9800X3D), i'd pair such high-end CPU with minimum 12 VRM phase MoBo. While more would be better. (As i said earlier, i'm pairing my 9800X3D with 20+2+2 VRM phase MoBo. While the current MoBo what i'm using, from 2016, MSI Z170A Gaming M5, has 12 VRM phases.)
From the Lenovo link i shared above, you can read what issues may arise when you skimp over VRM phases. So, your call if you want to get weak MoBo (VRM) with your high-end CPU.

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Wollnie_Like
Member
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06-01-2022, 10:37 AM
#9
Just for gaming? Pretty solid deal, as has been said the mobo isn’t great but it’s not awful either.
There’s always something better if you throw more money at it but for gaming this is a decent upgrade.
Just be sure you don’t need the extra cores you have now for work or a game that loves lots of cores.
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Wollnie_Like
06-01-2022, 10:37 AM #9

Just for gaming? Pretty solid deal, as has been said the mobo isn’t great but it’s not awful either.
There’s always something better if you throw more money at it but for gaming this is a decent upgrade.
Just be sure you don’t need the extra cores you have now for work or a game that loves lots of cores.

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iTsMrLuisMC_
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06-10-2022, 10:00 PM
#10
It would be fine. You could switch to a slightly better board for a higher price. I don't mind PCI-E gen5, as it's just an extra feature. The drives aren't very useful in real life unless you're handling a lot of big files, which isn't typical for a gaming build. Gen 5 graphics are also overkill. Yes, Nvidia offers Gen5 on the 50 series, but it's mainly for marketing purposes.
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iTsMrLuisMC_
06-10-2022, 10:00 PM #10

It would be fine. You could switch to a slightly better board for a higher price. I don't mind PCI-E gen5, as it's just an extra feature. The drives aren't very useful in real life unless you're handling a lot of big files, which isn't typical for a gaming build. Gen 5 graphics are also overkill. Yes, Nvidia offers Gen5 on the 50 series, but it's mainly for marketing purposes.

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