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iTsMrLuisMC_
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11-12-2017, 06:52 AM
#11
You're right, but it seems he should adjust the settings differently, particularly when using an older version. It relies on the idle voltage—meaning no programs running and 0% CPU usage is ideal. It might have been mentioned before, but it often comes up again. What's your CPU idle voltage? You can check Ryzen Master or CPUZ for details.
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iTsMrLuisMC_
11-12-2017, 06:52 AM #11

You're right, but it seems he should adjust the settings differently, particularly when using an older version. It relies on the idle voltage—meaning no programs running and 0% CPU usage is ideal. It might have been mentioned before, but it often comes up again. What's your CPU idle voltage? You can check Ryzen Master or CPUZ for details.

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lammy13
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11-12-2017, 06:52 AM
#12
I recently used DDU two days ago to reinstall the nvidia driver and remove some old AMD video drivers. I won't downgrade my drivers since my latest games run better with them. At this stage, if Ryse works a bit with stuttering, it's no longer an issue. Still, after updating the drivers, Ryse functions well at 1920x1080 with supersampling at 1.5x. Yes, that was my mistake. I assumed it would run smoothly at 4K/60, as mentioned in the title, even though I noticed people playing the game at that resolution required powerful systems like GTX Titan Z in SLI and RTX 2080 Ti with an i9 9990K, achieving 78-80 FPS. I discovered Ryse uses the same engine as Crysis 3, which is very demanding. Also, according to what I read online, setting both parameters to 100% might help reduce stuttering. However, after updating the AMD chipset, a custom power plan was installed specifically for AMD Ryzen 3000 series, and I'm currently using the High Performance plan with min at 5% and max at 100%.

Hi Mark, my idle voltage is 1.094 V, but in the BIOS I override it to a maximum of 1.355 V to avoid overheating. What do you mean by that?

Thanks again to Intransigent and to Mark!
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lammy13
11-12-2017, 06:52 AM #12

I recently used DDU two days ago to reinstall the nvidia driver and remove some old AMD video drivers. I won't downgrade my drivers since my latest games run better with them. At this stage, if Ryse works a bit with stuttering, it's no longer an issue. Still, after updating the drivers, Ryse functions well at 1920x1080 with supersampling at 1.5x. Yes, that was my mistake. I assumed it would run smoothly at 4K/60, as mentioned in the title, even though I noticed people playing the game at that resolution required powerful systems like GTX Titan Z in SLI and RTX 2080 Ti with an i9 9990K, achieving 78-80 FPS. I discovered Ryse uses the same engine as Crysis 3, which is very demanding. Also, according to what I read online, setting both parameters to 100% might help reduce stuttering. However, after updating the AMD chipset, a custom power plan was installed specifically for AMD Ryzen 3000 series, and I'm currently using the High Performance plan with min at 5% and max at 100%.

Hi Mark, my idle voltage is 1.094 V, but in the BIOS I override it to a maximum of 1.355 V to avoid overheating. What do you mean by that?

Thanks again to Intransigent and to Mark!

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Seer413
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11-12-2017, 06:52 AM
#13
There are certain settings where the automatic voltage regulation for the 3000 series doesn't function correctly and causes excessive voltage. However, it seems this isn't an issue for you—around 1V works just fine. You probably don't need to adjust this in BIOS; the chip performs best when it handles it automatically. I suggest setting the voltage to automatic in BIOS and testing various power plans in Windows. Personally, "windows balanced" gave me the best results and is also recommended by AMD. Just try it yourself. Also, make sure to occasionally check the idle voltage—it should ideally be under 1V, though a slight increase like 1.1 is acceptable.
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Seer413
11-12-2017, 06:52 AM #13

There are certain settings where the automatic voltage regulation for the 3000 series doesn't function correctly and causes excessive voltage. However, it seems this isn't an issue for you—around 1V works just fine. You probably don't need to adjust this in BIOS; the chip performs best when it handles it automatically. I suggest setting the voltage to automatic in BIOS and testing various power plans in Windows. Personally, "windows balanced" gave me the best results and is also recommended by AMD. Just try it yourself. Also, make sure to occasionally check the idle voltage—it should ideally be under 1V, though a slight increase like 1.1 is acceptable.

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IzADerpCookie
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11-12-2017, 06:52 AM
#14
Yes, it is generally preferable to let the CPU voltage adjust automatically.
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IzADerpCookie
11-12-2017, 06:52 AM #14

Yes, it is generally preferable to let the CPU voltage adjust automatically.

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PGVortex
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11-12-2017, 06:52 AM
#15
Well, yeap.
Also adjusting it max to ~1.3 isn't ideal since it increases to 1.5 by default, which could explain your problems too. Just revert to the default setting, then test the power options in Windows and look at the idle voltage.
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PGVortex
11-12-2017, 06:52 AM #15

Well, yeap.
Also adjusting it max to ~1.3 isn't ideal since it increases to 1.5 by default, which could explain your problems too. Just revert to the default setting, then test the power options in Windows and look at the idle voltage.

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SilverPhantum
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11-12-2017, 06:52 AM
#16
Ok, thanks Mark!
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SilverPhantum
11-12-2017, 06:52 AM #16

Ok, thanks Mark!

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npalmen
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11-12-2017, 06:52 AM
#17
No worries! For Windows 1903 users, you likely won't need an update since these voltage problems should already be resolved in that version. It's probably best not to force an update either—let Windows handle it automatically as your PC might not be fully prepared for 1909 yet.
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npalmen
11-12-2017, 06:52 AM #17

No worries! For Windows 1903 users, you likely won't need an update since these voltage problems should already be resolved in that version. It's probably best not to force an update either—let Windows handle it automatically as your PC might not be fully prepared for 1909 yet.

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zKiller171
Junior Member
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11-12-2017, 06:52 AM
#18
Windows Update indicates that my PC is prepared for this update in about a month and a half. Additionally, other updates continue to fail. Some suggest it relates to the WinSxS folder, though cleaning that folder doesn't resolve the issue.
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zKiller171
11-12-2017, 06:52 AM #18

Windows Update indicates that my PC is prepared for this update in about a month and a half. Additionally, other updates continue to fail. Some suggest it relates to the WinSxS folder, though cleaning that folder doesn't resolve the issue.

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iBarambe
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11-12-2017, 06:52 AM
#19
It might help to keep the minimum and maximum at full capacity to potentially lessen stuttering; it depends on the user to observe how the CPU behaves when set to 5% and 100% versus 100% and 100%. To verify this, display your CPU's clock speed while playing games. I usually see mine remain stable at 3.2 GHz even though I'm using 100% clocking, with a minimum of 5% and a maximum of 100%. This could be due to manually adjusting my GPU settings in BIOS to 3.2 GHz and turning off turbo boost. Regardless, I've experienced no problems when I stick to 5% and 100%. If you notice fluctuations during gaming at those levels, reverting back to 100% and 100% might improve performance. However, it's advisable to return to 5% and 100% when not gaming to avoid keeping the CPU constantly at maximum speed while idle. To simplify, create two power plans—one for gaming and another for non-gaming periods. This way, you can experiment and see what works best for you.

I've observed this effect in some users, who also face overheating concerns.

The only situation where adjusting voltage seems necessary is after thorough research on a specific CPU. Personally, I stick to balanced settings with a minimum of 5% and a maximum of 100%. I recall switching to this configuration about a year ago, which significantly improved performance.

Exactly. And it's important to monitor your voltage during gaming and while idle. This helps you understand your CPU's behavior under different conditions and aids in deciding whether overclocking or manual clocking is appropriate.

From my experience, updating Windows should be done when you shut down your PC and see the prompts: "Update and Shutdown" or "Update and Restart." If these options aren't present, it's likely unnecessary. I recently encountered difficulties forcing an update to version 1909 on my laptop a month ago, and restoring everything to normal was frustrating. Fortunately, it returned to its normal state without requiring an update. Currently, it shows "Feature update to Windows 10, version 1909," which is fine as it doesn't trigger the shutdown prompt yet. This suggests my laptop isn't fully prepared for such changes. I'm content with that.

My desktop also displays a similar message: "Optional updates available. Feature update to Windows 10, version 1909. With a red download and install button." It doesn't include the "Update and Shutdown" option, so I won't initiate an update unless prompted.

I'm pleased you're getting Ryse to function better. Although I haven't played that game in a while, it's a solid title. It reminds me of the 2008 game *Rise of the Argonauts*. Funny, I just noticed they both feature Ryse/Rise in their titles. I wonder why that is.
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iBarambe
11-12-2017, 06:52 AM #19

It might help to keep the minimum and maximum at full capacity to potentially lessen stuttering; it depends on the user to observe how the CPU behaves when set to 5% and 100% versus 100% and 100%. To verify this, display your CPU's clock speed while playing games. I usually see mine remain stable at 3.2 GHz even though I'm using 100% clocking, with a minimum of 5% and a maximum of 100%. This could be due to manually adjusting my GPU settings in BIOS to 3.2 GHz and turning off turbo boost. Regardless, I've experienced no problems when I stick to 5% and 100%. If you notice fluctuations during gaming at those levels, reverting back to 100% and 100% might improve performance. However, it's advisable to return to 5% and 100% when not gaming to avoid keeping the CPU constantly at maximum speed while idle. To simplify, create two power plans—one for gaming and another for non-gaming periods. This way, you can experiment and see what works best for you.

I've observed this effect in some users, who also face overheating concerns.

The only situation where adjusting voltage seems necessary is after thorough research on a specific CPU. Personally, I stick to balanced settings with a minimum of 5% and a maximum of 100%. I recall switching to this configuration about a year ago, which significantly improved performance.

Exactly. And it's important to monitor your voltage during gaming and while idle. This helps you understand your CPU's behavior under different conditions and aids in deciding whether overclocking or manual clocking is appropriate.

From my experience, updating Windows should be done when you shut down your PC and see the prompts: "Update and Shutdown" or "Update and Restart." If these options aren't present, it's likely unnecessary. I recently encountered difficulties forcing an update to version 1909 on my laptop a month ago, and restoring everything to normal was frustrating. Fortunately, it returned to its normal state without requiring an update. Currently, it shows "Feature update to Windows 10, version 1909," which is fine as it doesn't trigger the shutdown prompt yet. This suggests my laptop isn't fully prepared for such changes. I'm content with that.

My desktop also displays a similar message: "Optional updates available. Feature update to Windows 10, version 1909. With a red download and install button." It doesn't include the "Update and Shutdown" option, so I won't initiate an update unless prompted.

I'm pleased you're getting Ryse to function better. Although I haven't played that game in a while, it's a solid title. It reminds me of the 2008 game *Rise of the Argonauts*. Funny, I just noticed they both feature Ryse/Rise in their titles. I wonder why that is.

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koning_koala
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11-12-2017, 06:52 AM
#20
Good guidance. I'll stick to it.
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koning_koala
11-12-2017, 06:52 AM #20

Good guidance. I'll stick to it.

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