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Windows 11: What's going on with Microsoft? (Yelling)

Windows 11: What's going on with Microsoft? (Yelling)

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KennyGT
Junior Member
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06-26-2021, 11:59 AM
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I am predicting this now: Windows 11 will be the worst Microsoft OS since Vista and 8, and it's all because of 11's stupid requirements. Really Microsoft what the hell are you thinking, cutting off all processors made before 2017 all based on stupid requirements no one asked for. TPM is a joke, really it is, as the only thing it really does is stop keyloggers, which is something you can do inside the OS if you knew how. It doesn't stop malware, or viruses or ransomware and as secure as a motorbike protected by a keychain. And ask any Linux user how much security secure boot offers, hello on Linux now with secure boot, bite me Microsoft. The only reason Microsoft is doing this is to sell people new computers, they are desperate for money and think doing this will lure people to new machines in fear of their current machines being obsolete, it's a scam and I will not stand for it and nether should you. If I were the Windows community I would let as many people know that this is a scam, and that there are alternatives that are not Macs. Like I dunno... Linux's mint, it's free, easy to use and a 5-year-old can use it, it works for most hardware and if you don't need overpriced software like photoshop or games it's fine. Or sticking it to Microsoft and dualboot with Windows 10 and only use windows once every so often in protest. Lets show Microsoft not to fuck around with its users.
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KennyGT
06-26-2021, 11:59 AM #1

I am predicting this now: Windows 11 will be the worst Microsoft OS since Vista and 8, and it's all because of 11's stupid requirements. Really Microsoft what the hell are you thinking, cutting off all processors made before 2017 all based on stupid requirements no one asked for. TPM is a joke, really it is, as the only thing it really does is stop keyloggers, which is something you can do inside the OS if you knew how. It doesn't stop malware, or viruses or ransomware and as secure as a motorbike protected by a keychain. And ask any Linux user how much security secure boot offers, hello on Linux now with secure boot, bite me Microsoft. The only reason Microsoft is doing this is to sell people new computers, they are desperate for money and think doing this will lure people to new machines in fear of their current machines being obsolete, it's a scam and I will not stand for it and nether should you. If I were the Windows community I would let as many people know that this is a scam, and that there are alternatives that are not Macs. Like I dunno... Linux's mint, it's free, easy to use and a 5-year-old can use it, it works for most hardware and if you don't need overpriced software like photoshop or games it's fine. Or sticking it to Microsoft and dualboot with Windows 10 and only use windows once every so often in protest. Lets show Microsoft not to fuck around with its users.

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FailixTV
Junior Member
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06-26-2021, 02:49 PM
#2
Microsoft earns revenue primarily through licensing Windows, not from hardware sales. They can offer Windows 10 just as effectively as Windows 11. The release of Windows 11 came only because the necessary modifications were deemed too significant for a simple upgrade. If you're hesitant about updates, you might want to avoid Windows 11. Linux still has a long journey ahead to match Windows' compatibility levels. Numerous games require specialized compatibility solutions like Proton, and even then, full functionality isn't assured. Features such as VRR and HDR remain absent. Consequently, Linux lags considerably in the gaming space. Steam's efforts to promote Linux gaming are encouraging developers to consider it, but support remains limited for most creators. Windows 11 is firmly established, and when you stop focusing on compatibility issues, it offers many appealing improvements. Those who prefer simplicity or lack interest in newer capabilities can continue using Windows 10.
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FailixTV
06-26-2021, 02:49 PM #2

Microsoft earns revenue primarily through licensing Windows, not from hardware sales. They can offer Windows 10 just as effectively as Windows 11. The release of Windows 11 came only because the necessary modifications were deemed too significant for a simple upgrade. If you're hesitant about updates, you might want to avoid Windows 11. Linux still has a long journey ahead to match Windows' compatibility levels. Numerous games require specialized compatibility solutions like Proton, and even then, full functionality isn't assured. Features such as VRR and HDR remain absent. Consequently, Linux lags considerably in the gaming space. Steam's efforts to promote Linux gaming are encouraging developers to consider it, but support remains limited for most creators. Windows 11 is firmly established, and when you stop focusing on compatibility issues, it offers many appealing improvements. Those who prefer simplicity or lack interest in newer capabilities can continue using Windows 10.

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MadMax2theBone
Junior Member
34
06-29-2021, 09:28 AM
#3
Just don't use it...? Are you crazy? You can deal with W11 issues, but Microsoft doesn’t care much. They offer choices, and that’s all. Same with a store—you can pick a banana, but you’ll never control how it tastes.
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MadMax2theBone
06-29-2021, 09:28 AM #3

Just don't use it...? Are you crazy? You can deal with W11 issues, but Microsoft doesn’t care much. They offer choices, and that’s all. Same with a store—you can pick a banana, but you’ll never control how it tastes.

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TNTJeb1
Junior Member
35
06-29-2021, 09:56 AM
#4
Updated to Windows version
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TNTJeb1
06-29-2021, 09:56 AM #4

Updated to Windows version

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07-02-2021, 01:45 PM
#5
It's also important to remember that hardware compatibility on Linux varies—things like graphics cards, laptop switchable graphics, and wireless components can be inconsistent. You might find some claims exaggerated, but based on my experience, a few statements hold up.
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LupusGladiator
07-02-2021, 01:45 PM #5

It's also important to remember that hardware compatibility on Linux varies—things like graphics cards, laptop switchable graphics, and wireless components can be inconsistent. You might find some claims exaggerated, but based on my experience, a few statements hold up.

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Pimousse62620
Member
234
07-02-2021, 02:01 PM
#6
Sure, I believe the term 'planned obsolescence' has been widely used and repeated to the point where its original meaning is being weakened.
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Pimousse62620
07-02-2021, 02:01 PM #6

Sure, I believe the term 'planned obsolescence' has been widely used and repeated to the point where its original meaning is being weakened.

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oOEmmaOo
Posting Freak
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07-03-2021, 06:21 AM
#7
I dislike components such as the Ryzen 5 1600 and similar chips that claim TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot but are marked as unsupported.
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oOEmmaOo
07-03-2021, 06:21 AM #7

I dislike components such as the Ryzen 5 1600 and similar chips that claim TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot but are marked as unsupported.

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bigfatwhales26
Junior Member
5
07-03-2021, 02:20 PM
#8
The decision for using CPUs comes from their ability to handle MBCE. Without this support, performance drops significantly.
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bigfatwhales26
07-03-2021, 02:20 PM #8

The decision for using CPUs comes from their ability to handle MBCE. Without this support, performance drops significantly.

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davachio
Member
204
07-08-2021, 10:00 AM
#9
Can't set up W11? Sadly, you have four years to save some cash for a new machine. Honestly, you can't keep using a PC forever and software can't maintain compatibility either. That's why W11 has limited compatibility—it's meant to take advantage of newer technologies for better performance. I prefer my 3770K, but it's getting outdated now. It lacks the power it once had because newer software is more optimized for modern systems. I suspect you might have mistyped your search on Google, since TPM doesn't behave that way. Try again. Yes, many people spend hours tweaking their Linux to get everything working. Don't misunderstand me—I love Linux, but it's not a plug-and-play solution. You'll always need to set things up yourself. Linux isn't truly ready for everyday users, even Torvalds agrees. If you're not knowledgeable, things can go wrong easily.
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davachio
07-08-2021, 10:00 AM #9

Can't set up W11? Sadly, you have four years to save some cash for a new machine. Honestly, you can't keep using a PC forever and software can't maintain compatibility either. That's why W11 has limited compatibility—it's meant to take advantage of newer technologies for better performance. I prefer my 3770K, but it's getting outdated now. It lacks the power it once had because newer software is more optimized for modern systems. I suspect you might have mistyped your search on Google, since TPM doesn't behave that way. Try again. Yes, many people spend hours tweaking their Linux to get everything working. Don't misunderstand me—I love Linux, but it's not a plug-and-play solution. You'll always need to set things up yourself. Linux isn't truly ready for everyday users, even Torvalds agrees. If you're not knowledgeable, things can go wrong easily.

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Streiyn
Posting Freak
768
07-14-2021, 04:09 AM
#10
The requirement for CPUs in X generation seems excessive, don't you think? It appears a low-power dual-core i3-8140U is acceptable, but a high-performance threadripper 1950x isn't. It doesn't seem to be about performance at all. Still, they're preventing you from using older systems—probably because they expect someone will find a workaround. They seem to believe this would push people toward buying new machines, which benefits them financially and gives them more control over hardware for data collection. Most likely, those seeking simple browsing or streaming will opt for a laptop instead of a tower, which typically includes features like webcams, microphones, and fingerprint readers. Clearly, no one is asking for this, and they don't care about user preferences. What will you do? If you need Windows for work, accept it. Many of these 'security' features are either ineffective or just another way for companies to tighten control. Consider smartphones—Apple promotes iCloud as a security tool, yet they haven't warned users about devices still linked to old accounts. Millions could be affected if Apple doesn't remove them from iCloud. Samsung also falls short, restricting bootloader access in the US for safety reasons. They claim this boosts security, but it mainly protects carriers from bypassing restrictions like hotspot features. Once support ends, you're out of options—just enjoy the outdated device. That's the point. They're chasing profit and data. This isn't new, but what will you do? Millions use Windows for years, and it's often necessary for work. Apple can push its own model, but people will keep using Windows. Linux is powerful for many, especially those mainly browsing the web, which is common. Support is improving, but software coverage remains vast compared to Windows. The issue is that many depend on specific programs for their jobs. Change scares them, so they stick with what works—even if it's outdated. Things like wireless headphones are pricier, sometimes lower quality, drain battery faster, have higher latency, and often fail after a few years. People ignore these downsides because they prefer convenience over hassle. They'd rather accept the trade-offs than deal with setup, especially if it means missing out on features like Bluetooth. You can't expect regular users to switch between operating systems easily; most just want to use what works for their needs.
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Streiyn
07-14-2021, 04:09 AM #10

The requirement for CPUs in X generation seems excessive, don't you think? It appears a low-power dual-core i3-8140U is acceptable, but a high-performance threadripper 1950x isn't. It doesn't seem to be about performance at all. Still, they're preventing you from using older systems—probably because they expect someone will find a workaround. They seem to believe this would push people toward buying new machines, which benefits them financially and gives them more control over hardware for data collection. Most likely, those seeking simple browsing or streaming will opt for a laptop instead of a tower, which typically includes features like webcams, microphones, and fingerprint readers. Clearly, no one is asking for this, and they don't care about user preferences. What will you do? If you need Windows for work, accept it. Many of these 'security' features are either ineffective or just another way for companies to tighten control. Consider smartphones—Apple promotes iCloud as a security tool, yet they haven't warned users about devices still linked to old accounts. Millions could be affected if Apple doesn't remove them from iCloud. Samsung also falls short, restricting bootloader access in the US for safety reasons. They claim this boosts security, but it mainly protects carriers from bypassing restrictions like hotspot features. Once support ends, you're out of options—just enjoy the outdated device. That's the point. They're chasing profit and data. This isn't new, but what will you do? Millions use Windows for years, and it's often necessary for work. Apple can push its own model, but people will keep using Windows. Linux is powerful for many, especially those mainly browsing the web, which is common. Support is improving, but software coverage remains vast compared to Windows. The issue is that many depend on specific programs for their jobs. Change scares them, so they stick with what works—even if it's outdated. Things like wireless headphones are pricier, sometimes lower quality, drain battery faster, have higher latency, and often fail after a few years. People ignore these downsides because they prefer convenience over hassle. They'd rather accept the trade-offs than deal with setup, especially if it means missing out on features like Bluetooth. You can't expect regular users to switch between operating systems easily; most just want to use what works for their needs.

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