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Windows 11 doesn’t have a valid reason to restrict first-generation Threadripper, yet this situation exists...

Windows 11 doesn’t have a valid reason to restrict first-generation Threadripper, yet this situation exists...

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GuessWhoNot
Junior Member
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06-12-2021, 04:31 AM
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It's quite strange not to see the explanation for missing requirements...
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GuessWhoNot
06-12-2021, 04:31 AM #1

It's quite strange not to see the explanation for missing requirements...

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kensteele
Member
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06-12-2021, 07:10 AM
#2
IIRC, its just what Microsoft knows works correctly with it right now, its just that they haven't really tested outside of those "compatible" processors. We are still months away from a official build, theres still a high chance that support will be added later, and even then, you can still install it anyways.
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kensteele
06-12-2021, 07:10 AM #2

IIRC, its just what Microsoft knows works correctly with it right now, its just that they haven't really tested outside of those "compatible" processors. We are still months away from a official build, theres still a high chance that support will be added later, and even then, you can still install it anyways.

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BoliviaPower
Junior Member
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06-26-2021, 04:59 PM
#3
Microsoft initially set the limit for the second generation Ryzen. True. Your Athlon 3000G can handle Windows 11 better than your Threadripper 1950X, according to Windows.
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BoliviaPower
06-26-2021, 04:59 PM #3

Microsoft initially set the limit for the second generation Ryzen. True. Your Athlon 3000G can handle Windows 11 better than your Threadripper 1950X, according to Windows.

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A_Sound
Senior Member
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07-05-2021, 01:28 PM
#4
Windows 11 seems like a joke. If that’s their approach, I’d prefer to say no, thank you.
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A_Sound
07-05-2021, 01:28 PM #4

Windows 11 seems like a joke. If that’s their approach, I’d prefer to say no, thank you.

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kitkat7650
Member
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07-06-2021, 10:39 AM
#5
There could be a valid explanation for why Microsoft doesn't support those older CPUs. It's not just about TPM. Windows 11 uses HCVI, which was introduced with 8th generation Intel and Zen 2 CPUs. I found a discussion on Reddit that might help—check the link provided. It seems the issue might be more about feature compatibility rather than a single reason. Some sources suggest even 7th generation Intel chips could work.
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kitkat7650
07-06-2021, 10:39 AM #5

There could be a valid explanation for why Microsoft doesn't support those older CPUs. It's not just about TPM. Windows 11 uses HCVI, which was introduced with 8th generation Intel and Zen 2 CPUs. I found a discussion on Reddit that might help—check the link provided. It seems the issue might be more about feature compatibility rather than a single reason. Some sources suggest even 7th generation Intel chips could work.

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BHLxNJx
Posting Freak
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07-25-2021, 01:48 AM
#6
I don't agree with that response. My computer works fine, and I should have the right to run on a less secure CPU without extra restrictions.
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BHLxNJx
07-25-2021, 01:48 AM #6

I don't agree with that response. My computer works fine, and I should have the right to run on a less secure CPU without extra restrictions.

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StyleTrick
Senior Member
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07-28-2021, 05:10 PM
#7
HCVI isn't compatible with running virtual machines. This means you can't use it for VM tasks, and it implies the operating system would be directly interacting with the hardware instead of running on a VM.
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StyleTrick
07-28-2021, 05:10 PM #7

HCVI isn't compatible with running virtual machines. This means you can't use it for VM tasks, and it implies the operating system would be directly interacting with the hardware instead of running on a VM.

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pocio77
Posting Freak
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08-05-2021, 05:10 AM
#8
It looks like it should work well on my 1950 though it runs a bit slower than Win 10, probably because some debugging code was still active for those versions of preview. I hope it will support it eventually, but if not officially, there’s a chance to get it running through Windows.
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pocio77
08-05-2021, 05:10 AM #8

It looks like it should work well on my 1950 though it runs a bit slower than Win 10, probably because some debugging code was still active for those versions of preview. I hope it will support it eventually, but if not officially, there’s a chance to get it running through Windows.

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Bibble_Ele
Senior Member
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08-09-2021, 07:33 AM
#9
Well it's my phone, and I am locked on the OS and limited on version support, despite capable. Consumers said: Sure a new 1k$+ phone each year or is all good with me... so here we are. You might not like the answer, but at least it's a valid one unlike smartphone manufacturers, which have none. Anyways, If you are a enthusist, then there is always a way to install Windows 11 on unsupported hardware. But as yet, Microsoft wants to avoid a Vista. In addition, a new driver model is supported, which is more reliable, but Intel and AMD isn't proving support for older chips either.
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Bibble_Ele
08-09-2021, 07:33 AM #9

Well it's my phone, and I am locked on the OS and limited on version support, despite capable. Consumers said: Sure a new 1k$+ phone each year or is all good with me... so here we are. You might not like the answer, but at least it's a valid one unlike smartphone manufacturers, which have none. Anyways, If you are a enthusist, then there is always a way to install Windows 11 on unsupported hardware. But as yet, Microsoft wants to avoid a Vista. In addition, a new driver model is supported, which is more reliable, but Intel and AMD isn't proving support for older chips either.

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sclera
Junior Member
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08-16-2021, 07:47 AM
#10
The problem isn't that the program won’t execute, it’s about users expressing frustration over slower performance in Windows 11 versus Windows 10 and the perception of bloat. In reality, the CPU might lack the hardware acceleration needed for security features. I own a GeForce 680 GPU and don’t notice DirectX 12 performance issues there. The GPU tries to mimic driver calls, so games run, but they feel sluggish. The real cause lies with the GPU’s inability to support DX12, not the game itself or DirectX being overly large.
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sclera
08-16-2021, 07:47 AM #10

The problem isn't that the program won’t execute, it’s about users expressing frustration over slower performance in Windows 11 versus Windows 10 and the perception of bloat. In reality, the CPU might lack the hardware acceleration needed for security features. I own a GeForce 680 GPU and don’t notice DirectX 12 performance issues there. The GPU tries to mimic driver calls, so games run, but they feel sluggish. The real cause lies with the GPU’s inability to support DX12, not the game itself or DirectX being overly large.

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